Do those condemned to hell suffer forever?
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Proverbs 10:25~ When the whirlwind passes, the wicked is no more, but the righteous has an everlasting foundation.
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Don't blink or you'll miss it! .
Romans 6:23~ The wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Hey Magenta, the torment in hell is forever to all sinners and this can be confirmed by the nature of fire in the burning bush scene. The fire was burning but not consuming the bush, the same can be said about the sinners in hell, the fire in hell burns them and they feel pain but it doesn't consume their them.
Proverbs 10:25~ When the whirlwind passes, the wicked is no more, but the righteous has an everlasting foundation.
Hell os destroyed at jidgement day in the lake of fire after all the dead people In it are raised up for judgement
“And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.”
Revelation 20:13-14 KJV
“And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.”
Revelation 20:13-14 KJV
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Sure I get it you: think dead means alive and probably also that death is nothing to fear and so it's not punishment, and the Scriptures never say that the wages of sin is death, and that the soul of man is immortal even though Scripture says only God is immortal... yeah, a lot of people say things like that. Our God is a consuming fire. Scripture says that explicitly.
Hell is temporary the lake of fire you see in revelation is this
“but the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men. But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.”
2 Peter 3:7, 10, 12-13 KJV
did you notice in revelation this happens
“And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.”
Revelation 20:15
and then Immediately we see this
“And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.”
Revelation 21:1, 3-4 KJV
It seems to me ( just some old fool on the internets opinion ) as if the image of the lake of fire is showing us the fiery end of this entire creation in my opinion hell and torment and death and sorrow and pain is all part of this forst corrupted creation and the “second death “is a final death
I hope not, but scripture points that they will. Revelation 20:10. Sorry.
OK, such is your opinion, but immortality and eternal life are not the same.
Alright I suppose
mortal things die they have an end they don’t exist forever they perish and end. Like a mortal man
immortal things live or exist eternally and don’t perish like Jesus Christ the lord forever
seems like they are related even part of the same and couldn’t exist without one another but I suppose in this place blue is sometimes yellow
So hell and death, All the evil are destroyed..
The sinner and sin is not immortalized.
Joh 3:16 KJV For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Should not perish.
Perish, destroyed, be no more.
Ecc 9:5-6
5 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. 6 Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun.
If we don't believe we will perish.
The unbeliever will not be made immortal.
The unbeliever will not be made immortal.
I respect your opinion on this matter. The problem I have with that doctrine is that Atheists would love it.
“So hell and death, All the evil are destroyed.. The sinner and sin is not immortalized.”
That’s my belief but is just one opinion. There are also scriptires to support the other idea of an eternal hell where suffering is forever . I think it ends with the first creation
“And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.”
Revelation 21:1, 4 KJV
Satan will be turned to ashes from within. When people are thrown into the lake of fire they perish. It is the smoke of their burning that rises forever and ever. God is a consuming fire. You might say those folks will be uncreated and totally forgotten about.
Judgement is God's
God is just and true.
God does not enjoy seeing anyone suffer.
We should not enjoy seeing people suffer.
After the second resurrection and judgement has been served. Everyone that has not been forgiven will suffer and die. They will perish after judgement has been served.
TRUE JUSTICE
Those who teach there is no eternal punishment are making Jesus a Liar. Human reasoning tries to explain a place that has not been seen any more than Heaven has. Yet some say how can one be in afire and
because the word of GOD states there is. and this word salad game many like to play I would say don't bet your life on it with Human reasoning .
Hel is an eternal place created for the devil and his angels. Man was never to be there. So when man say there is no eternal Punishment are they hoping?
because the word of GOD states there is. and this word salad game many like to play I would say don't bet your life on it with Human reasoning .