Disclosure and Christianity.

[Watchman22]

Like around 9AM EST hopefully. Thank you and have a great evening.

I just saw a levit news conference. Someone asked about Obama saying that aliens exist but he hasn't seen any.

What caught my attention, is when the word alien was said, everyone started to giggle like it's some kind of joke. I don't see an attack on our Lord Jesus Christ at His second coming a joke.

She also said trump has a speech prepared on this topic, and he will give it at the right time.

 

[Karlon]

I don't look at scripture as something to learn, I look at scripture as a reflection of a continually surrendered life.

you are not learning anything? you should be doing both. don't you read the Bible? & if you do, you aren't learning anything? indeed, every day is a learning & strengthening opportunity, to grow in grace. not arguing, peacefully discussing.

 

[Karlon]

Say what? I don't think you are understanding the conversation. No one is worried or scared or trembling here. God is sovereign, meaning supreme power and authority. However, God is Spirit. We, us little flesh pots down here, are not. In that realm, the same realm in which God reigns and is sovereign, millions of spiritual beings exist.

Angels, demons, other spirit beings, and all are created by God but He is not created. No, I think if we understand God at all, we are expectant and trusting but not fearful.

that's what it sounds like. i'm glad i'm incorrect. blessings to you.

 

[Watchman22]

you are not learning anything? you should be doing both. don't you read the Bible? & if you do, you aren't learning anything? indeed, every day is a learning & strengthening opportunity, to grow in grace. not arguing, peacefully discussing.

Where just on different paths karlon.
It shows in your reply. You focus on "growing in grace" something more that you get. I focus on "growing in faith and faithing " something more that I can give, a better surrendered life.

Because your foundational understanding of the relationship with Christ is off, all understandings after that will be off.

It's not something I desire to argue about, it's something I hope you will consider.

 

[Karlon]

Where just on different paths karlon.
It shows in your reply. You focus on "growing in grace" something more that you get. I focus on "growing in faith and faithing " something more that I can give, a better surrendered life.

Because your foundational understanding of the relationship with Christ is off, all understandings after that will be off.

It's not something I desire to argue about, it's something I hope you will consider.

wow! you shouldn't assume especially when you don't know someone whom you never met. i understand Jesus to be fully human, God & savior to all. he is the "father of faith". ".....all understanding will be off...."? too bad we couldn't meet & enjoy a conversation about Christianity. i'll let you in on a secret, i have over 320 Bible verses memorized. but you probably will disregard that too. blessings to you, forever.

 

[Watchman22]

wow! you shouldn't assume especially when you don't know someone whom you never met. i understand Jesus to be fully human, God & savior to all. he is the "father of faith". ".....all understanding will be off...."? too bad we couldn't meet & enjoy a conversation about Christianity. i'll let you in on a secret, i have over 320 Bible verses memorized. but you probably will disregard that too. blessings to you, forever.

This is the post you entered my thread with.

"My greatness, don't allow yourself to be a victim of grandiose delusions or a case of megalomania. why would a Christian allow himself or herself to be bothered by that?"

This is what I call coming in throwing elbows.

I didn't really address what you said, because I addressed it in another thread and didn't get much of a response. And I didn't want to sidetrack this thread.

If I'm understanding you correctly, you don't think we should observe, perceive, and discern things that the other side is doing to " try" and take out the called out ones, or in this case Christ Himself ?

It's a legitimate concern, but how do you sell that to a watchman?

I wish you hadn't told me about all the work and effort you put into memorizing scripture. Thats something sacred, secret between you and God. I feel like you wasted it on me.

Are we good?

 

[tourist]

It's all good, we can keep going here.
So, what are your thoughts about aliens in general and do you have anything recent about aliens you'd like to share?

Aliens are OK as long as they are not illegal.

 

[Watchman22]

Like around 9AM EST hopefully. Thank you and have a great evening.

Just a like, no reply?

 

[Eli1]

I've decided to get part of this on here so you will hopefully reply in the am.

I think satan is inside the earth as per Job 1:7, building and manufacturing high tech crafts and high tech ET beings or robots.

He's not only been manufacturing these things inside the earth, he's leaking out enough tech information so mankind will inadvertently help him build his army by reverse engineering the crafts "that crash".

I realize most of us are not paying much attention to this subject, but it is seriously evolving fast. The best and most trustworthy information about this comes from Dr. Steven Grier. The only problem is he thinks these entities are friendlies from other solar systems. That is the lie satan is banking on.

Dr. Griers big concern is this world wide cabal is going to use the disclosure event to seize power and attack the "friendly aliens."

It is well known that the cabal is attempting to stage an alein invasion false flag event, and will in reality be fighting a staged war against itself to fool the world.

I think what's really happening is satan has got all these ducks in a row to stage an attack. An attack using all his manufactured crafts and beings, plus all the world's weapons of high tech we have no knowledge of, to attack Jesus when he returns in the clouds.

We as people will be sold on this alien invasion theory, but in reality it will be an attack on Jesus's "day of the lord".



The Christians of the world will be deceived into thinking we are defending earth from aliens, but in reality, they will be fighting against the Lord Jesus Christ and His angels when He returns.

Thank you for sharing this.
It does take some faith to believe this however if i approach this again from an engineering or a biological perspective i would say that it's possible.
We know more about Mars or the Moon then our own planet. Many scientists admit this. For example we don't know much about the bottom of ocean floor.
Mariana Trench is the deepest point in our planet (i think) which is located underwater. It's 7 miles deep!
Now, scientists have discovered fish that live in darkness miles down ocean floors.
Also, deep inside Earth there are worms that live about 2 miles deep.
So, from a biological perspective it's possible that materialistic or biological entities or organisms can live in places where we humans would die.
But now you did make me curious about Dr. Steven Grier. And this is the type of communication i like. We start small and then venture in big and spend time IF a subject is interesting.
If you show me a 2 hour youtube video like a lot of people here do, i simply won't click it.
But this discussion has made me curious about Dr. Grier and i will look him up when i have some time.

Thank you.

Sorry I wrote #45 without you. There's been days a get up in the am and I'm blocked from posting on my threads.

What's your thinking on post 45, and did you know that they mastered gravity in 1946?

Who mastered gravity?

I just saw a levit news conference. Someone asked about Obama saying that aliens exist but he hasn't seen any.

What caught my attention, is when the word alien was said, everyone started to giggle like it's some kind of joke. I don't see an attack on our Lord Jesus Christ at His second coming a joke.

She also said trump has a speech prepared on this topic, and he will give it at the right time.

Obama is trying to sound cool and sophisticated but he ends up being an idiot in the process. I've heard him speak of aliens in the past and his 'jokes' are not good.

 

[Eli1]

Aliens are OK as long as they are not illegal.

Agreed. lol

 

[Watchman22]

Aliens are OK as long as they are not illegal.

Lol, wrong aliens.

 

[Karlon]

This is the post you entered my thread with.

"My greatness, don't allow yourself to be a victim of grandiose delusions or a case of megalomania. why would a Christian allow himself or herself to be bothered by that?"

This is what I call coming in throwing elbows.

I didn't really address what you said, because I addressed it in another thread and didn't get much of a response. And I didn't want to sidetrack this thread.

If I'm understanding you correctly, you don't think we should observe, perceive, and discern things that the other side is doing to " try" and take out the called out ones, or in this case Christ Himself ?

It's a legitimate concern, but how do you sell that to a watchman?

I wish you hadn't told me about all the work and effort you put into memorizing scripture. Thats something sacred, secret between you and God. I feel like you wasted it on me.

Are we good?

by course, observe evil spirits: 1st John chapter 4. no, not a secret. when i'm talking to someone about Jesus, they need to know that i know what i'm talking about. they need confidence. let's not over analyze. wasted? it just could be that God anointed langston, nathan & stephanus to divide the Bible up into chapters & verses for closer study & for ease of memorization. here's an expression: "paralysis by analysis"! different viewpoints can result in the same intention & meaning. i'm fine with all on CC. as the administrator once said about karlon: "you're not a source of trouble on CC".

 

[Watchman22]

Thank you for sharing this.
It does take some faith to believe this however if i approach this again from an engineering or a biological perspective i would say that it's possible.
We know more about Mars or the Moon then our own planet. Many scientists admit this. For example we don't know much about the bottom of ocean floor.
Mariana Trench is the deepest point in our planet (i think) which is located underwater. It's 7 miles deep!
Now, scientists have discovered fish that live in darkness miles down ocean floors.
Also, deep inside Earth there are worms that live about 2 miles deep.
So, from a biological perspective it's possible that materialistic or biological entities or organisms can live in places where we humans would die.
But now you did make me curious about Dr. Steven Grier. And this is the type of communication i like. We start small and then venture in big and spend time IF a subject is interesting.
If you show me a 2 hour youtube video like a lot of people here do, i simply won't click it.
But this discussion has made me curious about Dr. Grier and i will look him up when i have some time.

Thank you.



Who mastered gravity?



Obama is trying to sound cool and sophisticated but he ends up being an idiot in the process. I've heard him speak of aliens in the past and his 'jokes' are not good.

Thanks for replying Eli,
If Your going to spend some time with Steven Grier, He started his work on this like 30 or 40 years ago. He has 4 or 5 documentaries. About 800 whistle blowers, and he does podcasts.

The disclaimer is this. If your faith isn't rock solid, i wouldn't listen to the information he has. There's lots of seeds of temptation that need to be discerned as such. I do think he is an honest reporter on this subject and is the only one I trust with this subject. But, his conclusion is off.

Now, he's a scientist! I don't know his understanding of God, I think he has one but way different than ours.

If you do decide to look him up, you should know that he has recruited many of those whisle blowers to do with him, what they were doing with these black ops companies. What their doing now in the public realm is what they were doing in secret for 80 years. One of the things is called sonics. Certain people have the ability to make contact with the crafts and the occupants mentally and literally bring them in. The black ops companies were doing that to capture them , which is a whole other aspect of this.

I could go on and on, but you just need to get caught up.

One question I have been asking myself is can satan in the spiritual state manufacture these crafts and entities? I know he's getting our help on the surface, but i envision him doing alot on his own inside the earth. What do you think.?

Sorry for the just a like post, I was hoping you would discuss this further.

 

[Watchman22]

by course, observe evil spirits: 1st John chapter 4. no, not a secret. when i'm talking to someone about Jesus, they need to know that i know what i'm talking about. they need confidence. let's not over analyze. wasted? it just could be that God anointed langston, nathan & stephanus to divide the Bible up into chapters & verses for closer study & for ease of memorization. here's an expression: "paralysis by analysis"! different viewpoints can result in the same intention & meaning. i'm fine with all on CC. as the administrator once said about karlon: "you're not a source of trouble on CC".

Sounds like we're good, I appreciate that.

 

[Watchman22]

Thank you for sharing this.
It does take some faith to believe this however if i approach this again from an engineering or a biological perspective i would say that it's possible.
We know more about Mars or the Moon then our own planet. Many scientists admit this. For example we don't know much about the bottom of ocean floor.
Mariana Trench is the deepest point in our planet (i think) which is located underwater. It's 7 miles deep!
Now, scientists have discovered fish that live in darkness miles down ocean floors.
Also, deep inside Earth there are worms that live about 2 miles deep.
So, from a biological perspective it's possible that materialistic or biological entities or organisms can live in places where we humans would die.
But now you did make me curious about Dr. Steven Grier. And this is the type of communication i like. We start small and then venture in big and spend time IF a subject is interesting.
If you show me a 2 hour youtube video like a lot of people here do, i simply won't click it.
But this discussion has made me curious about Dr. Grier and i will look him up when i have some time.

Thank you.



Who mastered gravity?



Obama is trying to sound cool and sophisticated but he ends up being an idiot in the process. I've heard him speak of aliens in the past and his 'jokes' are not good.

You probably already know this but all his stuff is on you tube.

 

[Eli1]

Thanks for replying Eli,
If Your going to spend some time with Steven Grier, He started his work on this like 30 or 40 years ago. He has 4 or 5 documentaries. About 800 whistle blowers, and he does podcasts.

The disclaimer is this. If your faith isn't rock solid, i wouldn't listen to the information he has. There's lots of seeds of temptation that need to be discerned as such. I do think he is an honest reporter on this subject and is the only one I trust with this subject. But, his conclusion is off.

Now, he's a scientist! I don't know his understanding of God, I think he has one but way different than ours.

If you do decide to look him up, you should know that he has recruited many of those whisle blowers to do with him, what they were doing with these black ops companies. What their doing now in the public realm is what they were doing in secret for 80 years. One of the things is called sonics. Certain people have the ability to make contact with the crafts and the occupants mentally and literally bring them in. The black ops companies were doing that to capture them , which is a whole other aspect of this.

I could go on and on, but you just need to get caught up.

One question I have been asking myself is can satan in the spiritual state manufacture these crafts and entities? I know he's getting our help on the surface, but i envision him doing alot on his own inside the earth. What do you think.?

Sorry for the just a like post, I was hoping you would discuss this further.

First of all, nothing can shake my faith and love for God.
People who are afraid to question things are usually the ones who have had a bit or too much indoctrination.
Nothing is higher than God and no one can take your love away from God when you realize that God is in control. This is why i'm not afraid or worried to ask questions about aliens or many other topics which may be too uncomfortable for many people.

To answer your question, satan being inside planet earth is a possibility but i think it's a low possibility. And i read earlier about why you think he's inside earth, to deceive us. But you don't need this level of sophistication to deceive people. People are deceived by their inability to operate with a free mind first. When a fact enters their mind, they won't allow it. A free thinking person starts with "I don't know about this topic, so let's find out".
So in summary i will look up Dr. Grier and maybe we can discuss some of his points. Just to let you know i have looked at many other subjects that many may not find comfortable but i'm okay because GOD is in control and NO ONE or NO THING will distract me.
It's simply engineering curiosity.

 

[Watchman22]

Thank you for sharing this.
It does take some faith to believe this however if i approach this again from an engineering or a biological perspective i would say that it's possible.
We know more about Mars or the Moon then our own planet. Many scientists admit this. For example we don't know much about the bottom of ocean floor.
Mariana Trench is the deepest point in our planet (i think) which is located underwater. It's 7 miles deep!
Now, scientists have discovered fish that live in darkness miles down ocean floors.
Also, deep inside Earth there are worms that live about 2 miles deep.
So, from a biological perspective it's possible that materialistic or biological entities or organisms can live in places where we humans would die.
But now you did make me curious about Dr. Steven Grier. And this is the type of communication i like. We start small and then venture in big and spend time IF a subject is interesting.
If you show me a 2 hour youtube video like a lot of people here do, i simply won't click it.
But this discussion has made me curious about Dr. Grier and i will look him up when i have some time.

Thank you.



Who mastered gravity?



Obama is trying to sound cool and sophisticated but he ends up being an idiot in the process. I've heard him speak of aliens in the past and his 'jokes' are not good.

There's alot of information on when they mastered gravity in 1946. It's all on his site.

 

[Eli1]

There's alot of information on when they mastered gravity in 1946. It's all on his site.

Let's talk about this for a minute.
Who mastered gravity? Us, humans? For flight?

 

[Watchman22]

First of all, nothing can shake my faith and love for God.
People who are afraid to question things are usually the ones who have had a bit or too much indoctrination.
Nothing is higher than God and no one can take your love away from God when you realize that God is in control. This is why i'm not afraid or worried to ask questions about aliens or many other topics which may be too uncomfortable for many people.

To answer your question, satan being inside planet earth is a possibility but i think it's a low possibility. And i read earlier about why you think he's inside earth, to deceive us. But you don't need this level of sophistication to deceive people. People are deceived by their inability to operate with a free mind first. When a fact enters their mind, they won't allow it. A free thinking person starts with "I don't know about this topic, so let's find out".
So in summary i will look up Dr. Grier and maybe we can discuss some of his points. Just to let you know i have looked at many other subjects that many may not find comfortable but i'm okay because GOD is in control and NO ONE or NO THING will distract me.
It's simply engineering curiosity.

I hear ya. It's really the last thing I want to talk about, aliens. But, what's coming down the pike could take out alot of called out ones if the truth isn't at least out there to consider.

I think satan being inside the earth is just to stay hidden, him and what he's doing.

This is a very complicated subject. And when we filter it through our spiritual screens, we could be looking at the satanic wad he intends to use to survive.

I know it sounds like sciencefiction , but God is real, so is he, and so is the fight thats coming. If we're not prepared for this at some level, it won't be good.

 

[Watchman22]

Let's talk about this for a minute.
Who mastered gravity? Us, humans? For flight?

Based on Dr. Steven Greer's claims, specifically in recent podcasts and interviews (such as on the PBD Podcast), he often states that gravity control and gravity wave propulsion technologies were mastered by unacknowledged, rogue elements within the US military-industrial comp +1