Dietary laws, do you keep them?

[Inquisitor]

God Spirit is what enables us to keep the commandments John 14:15-18- there is no shadow of God’s eternal law- its what defines sin 1 John 3:4 Rom 7:7 James 2:10-12 and God does not want us to sin. 1 John 2:1-6

Jesus taught we should keep the commandments of God as it affects our status in heaven Mat 5:19-30 so obviously not something that ended He said our righteousness must exceed the Pharisees and He condemned them for keeping their own laws/traditions in lieu of keeping the commandments of God quoting directly from the Ten Mat 15:3-14 Mark 7:7-13

Anyway- we are not going to agree, thats okay but maybe one day you will consider all of the teachings of Jesus- He is the way and led by example and never once taught we can break the Ten Commandments- He taught and lived the opposite.

Of course, God does not want you to sin.

That is why Jesus Christ arrived to save us from sin and death.

It's not about what you wish to obey, salvation is not from you.

By grace you are saved and that is not from you.

The gospel is the good news about our redemption in and through Jesus Christ.

Jesus first and Jesus last and that is the perfect theology.

Boast in Christ, testify to Jesus.

This is the will of God for everyone.

 

[Inquisitor]

God Spirit is what enables us to keep the commandments John 14:15-18- there is no shadow of God’s eternal law- its what defines sin 1 John 3:4 Rom 7:7 James 2:10-12 and God does not want us to sin. 1 John 2:1-6

Jesus taught we should keep the commandments of God as it affects our status in heaven Mat 5:19-30 so obviously not something that ended He said our righteousness must exceed the Pharisees and He condemned them for keeping their own laws/traditions in lieu of keeping the commandments of God quoting directly from the Ten Mat 15:3-14 Mark 7:7-13

Anyway- we are not going to agree, thats okay but maybe one day you will consider all of the teachings of Jesus- He is the way and led by example and never once taught we can break the Ten Commandments- He taught and lived the opposite.

Jesus was sent only to the Jews.

 

[Genez]

You mean Jesus the commandments He personally wrote - If you love Me keep My commandments. It’s definitely a decision one makes or not to live by His every Word and follow His example He left for us.

Take care.

The example He left for us (the Church) was Paul.

Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul ​

also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. He writes the same way in all ​

his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that ​

are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the ​

other Scriptures, to their own destruction." 2 Peter 3:15-16​

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[SabbathBlessing]

Of course, God does not want you to sin.

That is why Jesus Christ arrived to save us from sin and death.

It's not about what you wish to obey, salvation is not from you.

By grace you are saved and that is not from you.

The gospel is the good news about our redemption in and through Jesus Christ.

Jesus first and Jesus last and that is the perfect theology.

Boast in Christ, testify to Jesus.

This is the will of God for everyone.

The Sabbath is not from me, agreed, it is from Christ at Creation Exo 20:11 Gen 2:1-3 and He asks us to do what is righteousness and His righteousness is everlasting. Psa 119:142

Isa 56:1 Thus says the Lord:

“Keep justice, and do righteousness,
For My salvation is about to come,
And My righteousness to be revealed.
2 Blessed is the man who does this,
And the son of man who lays hold on it;
Who keeps from defiling the Sabbath,
And keeps his hand from doing any evil.”

6 “Also the sons of the foreigner
Who join themselves to the Lord, to serve Him,
And to love the name of the Lord, to be His servants—
Everyone who keeps from defiling the Sabbath,
And holds fast My covenant

 

[SabbathBlessing]

Jesus was sent only to the Jews.

Wow.

John 3:16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.

1 John 2:2 And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world.

 

[Nehemiah6]

Jesus was sent only to the Jews.

More and more bizarre statements on CC.

 

[Cameron143]

More and more bizarre statements on CC.

Jesus was only sent TO the lost sheep of the house of Israel. He was sent FOR all who believe on His name.

 

[Soyeong]

Israel is Israel, and the Church is a NEW creation in Christ!

Again, the Septuagint refers to Israel, moreover, the Bible does not refer to the new creation as being something other than Israel.

That is typical Dominion theology nonsense which was designed to appeal to religious types
who want something to fight for (enabling them to feel self righteous) in the energy of their flesh
because of their failure to walk in the guidance of the Spirit.

Have a good Day...

I didn't say anything about Dominion theology, so yo are just hand waving. God's law was not given as instructions for how to feel or become self-righteous, but for how to testify about God's righteousness. In Galatians 5:16-23, all of the works of the flesh that are against the Spirit are also against God's law while all of the fruits of the Spirit are in accordance with it.

 

[Soyeong]

Correct, the law is the shadow but the Holy Spirit is the fulfillment.

The Spirit has the role of leading us to obey God's law (Ezekiel 36:26-27)

The law told Israel that they were not holy, that they needed a savior.

God's law shows those who are not holy that they are holy, but also teaches us how to be holy as God is holy (1 Peter 2:21-22). God's law does not just show us our need for a Savior, but also shows us the way that He is saving us.

Israel were given the law and failed so badly in their obedience, that they turned and
crucified their Lord.

Jesus was only sent to the Jews. The Gentiles were drafted in much later.

Correction. Jesus was sent first to the Jews, then commissioned his disciples to bring the Gospel to the Gentiles (Matthew 28:16-20).

That's what you do, pick the laws you want and ignore the rest. Surely you can see this.
For example, you picked a few food laws to obey but ignored hundreds of other laws.

I don't select any subset of the laws and then say I will obey those only.

That's what you are doing when you arbitrarily decide to ignore rules, laws, statutes, ceremony.

I just obey the commandment that Jesus gave in the new covenant.

1 Corinthians 11:4-5
Love is patient, love is kind, it is not jealous, love does not brag, it is not arrogant. It does not
act disgracefully, it does not seek its own benefit.

Love cannot break the law.

Love is from the Holy Spirit and powered by the Holy Spirit.

Love is not about rules, laws, statutes, ceremony.

Everything commanded in the Mosaic Law is either in regard to how to love God or how to love our neighbor, which is why Jesus said in Matthew 22:36-40 that those are the greatest two commandments and that all of the other commandments hang on them. So the position that we should obey the greatest two commandments is also the position that we should obey all of the commandments that hang on them, such as as if we love God and our neighbor, then we won't commit adultery, theft, idolatry, murder, rape, favoritism, kidnapping, and so forth for the rest of the Mosaic Law. The greatest two commandments are a lot easier said than done, so thankfully God gave us the rest of the Mosaic Law to flesh out what it looks like to correctly obey them. Someone who was correctly living in obedience to the greatest two commandments would be indistinguishable from someone who was correctly obeying the Mosaic Law because they would both be following the same example that Jesus set for us to follow.

 

[Soyeong]

You have made a fatal blunder.

Your understanding of the revelation of Jesus Christ is missing in your posts.

I have not neglect that. In Matthew 4:15-23, Christ began his ministry with the Gospel message to repent for the Kingdom of God is at hand, which was a light to the Gentiles, and the Mosaic Law was how his audience knew what sin is (Romans 3:20), so repenting from our disobedience to it is a central part of the Gospel of the Kingdom. Christ also set a sinless example for us to follow of how to walk in obedience to the Mosaic Law and as his followers we are told to follow his example (1 Peter 2:21-22) and that those who are in Christ are obligated to walk in the same way he walked (1 John 2:6). In Titus 2:14, Christ gave himself to redeem us from all lawlessness and to purify for himself a people of his own possession who are zealous for doing good works, so becoming zealous for doing good works in obedience to the Mosaic Law is the way to believe in what Jesus spent his ministry teaching by word and by example and in what he accomplished through the cross (Acts 21:20) while returning to the lawlessness that he gave himself to redeem us from is the way to reject everything that he accomplished.

The law gave Israel a knowledge of sin but not the ability to obey that law.

In Romans 10:5-8, it references Deuteronomy 30:11-20 as the word of faith that we proclaim in regard to proclaiming that God's law is not too difficult for us to obey and that obedience to it brings life and a blessing while disobedience brings death and a curse, so choose life!

[quoteJesus Christ is the only way to achieve righteousness.[/quote]
Agreed.

[quoteWe receive the righteousness of Jesus Christ, a perfect righteousness, and that was a gift.[/quote]
To have a character trait means to be a doer of that trait, so for God to be righteous means that He is a doer of righteous works and the receiving the gift of righteousness through faith means receiving the gift of becoming a doer of righteous works in obedience to God's law through faith..

You cannot obey the rules of the law because that was not the purpose of the law.

The purpose of God giving commands is straightforwardly for us to obey them.

It's not about you or your failure to obey the law, it never was about you.

You will boast in Jesus Christ and never boast in yourself, ever again.

God did not give the gift of His law for the purpose of giving us something to boast about, but to teach us how to boast in Christ. God did not command good works in order to establish our own goodness, but to testify about God's goodness, which is why our good works in obedience to the Mosaic Law give glory to Him (Mark 5:16). Moreover, by testifying about God's goodness, we are also expressing the belief that God is good, or in other words, we are believing in him, and the same goes for God's other character traits, so the way to believe in God is by being a doer of His character traits in obedience to the Mosaic Law.

 

[Genez]

Again, the Septuagint refers to Israel, moreover, the Bible does not refer to the new creation as being something other than Israel.

You need to hire a wake up service.... before you post.

 

[Burn1986]

Do you guys keep the dietary laws of Leviticus 11? I believe it is smart to do so, not because we are REQUIRED to, but because God as the creator knows what is most profitable for us to eat when it comes to meats. The kingdom of God is not eating and drinking, I know. All im asking you guys is: Do you personally keep the dietary laws? Do you think it is beneficial?`I sure do. Lots of bad things have happened in history including many pandemics due to eating unclean meats.

I’m still working on the dietary rules in Joel

 

[Nehemiah6]

Jesus was only sent TO the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

The "Jews" were a segment of the house of Israel. So the statement about only to the Jews was misleading. And even though He was sent to the lost sheep of Israel, He was to be a Light to lighten the Gentiles.

25 And, behold, there was a man in Jerusalem, whose name was Simeon; and the same man was just and devout, waiting for the consolation of Israel: and the Holy Ghost was upon him. 26 And it was revealed unto him by the Holy Ghost, that he should not see death, before he had seen the Lord's Christ. 27 And he came by the Spirit into the temple: and when the parents brought in the child Jesus, to do for him after the custom of the law, 28 Then took he him up in his arms, and blessed God, and said, 29 Lord, now lettest thou thy servant depart in peace, according to thy word: 30 For mine eyes have seen thy Salvation (Yeshua), 31 Which thou hast prepared before the face of all people; 32 A Light to lighten the Gentiles, and the glory of thy people Israel. (Luke 2:25-32)

Thus Jesus said "I am the Light of the world" (not just Israel) We see in the earthly ministry of Christ that the ones who FIRST believed on Him were the despised Samaritans. And that "He MUST NEEDS go through Samaria. He also went to the coasts of Tyre and Sidon (Gentile territory). And the faith of the Roman centurion whose servant was healed was not found in all Israel at that time.

 

[Genez]

The "Jews" were a segment of the house of Israel. So the statement about only to the Jews was misleading. And even though He was sent to the lost sheep of Israel, He was to be a Light to lighten the Gentiles.

25 And, behold, there was a man in Jerusalem, whose name was Simeon; and the same man was just and devout, waiting for the consolation of Israel: and the Holy Ghost was upon him. 26 And it was revealed unto him by the Holy Ghost, that he should not see death, before he had seen the Lord's Christ. 27 And he came by the Spirit into the temple: and when the parents brought in the child Jesus, to do for him after the custom of the law, 28 Then took he him up in his arms, and blessed God, and said, 29 Lord, now lettest thou thy servant depart in peace, according to thy word: 30 For mine eyes have seen thy Salvation (Yeshua), 31 Which thou hast prepared before the face of all people; 32 A Light to lighten the Gentiles, and the glory of thy people Israel. (Luke 2:25-32)

Thus Jesus said "I am the Light of the world" (not just Israel) We see in the earthly ministry of Christ that the ones who FIRST believed on Him were the despised Samaritans. And that "He MUST NEEDS go through Samaria. He also went to the coasts of Tyre and Sidon (Gentile territory). And the faith of the Roman centurion whose servant was healed was not found in all Israel at that time.

Jesus came to the Jews... then later the church God went to all, but only after the Cross and glorification of Christ was fulfilled.

 

[Genez]

I didn't say anything about Dominion theology,

Trace back to the origins of some of the wrong things you are saying and you will see why I said that.

 

[Cameron143]

The "Jews" were a segment of the house of Israel. So the statement about only to the Jews was misleading. And even though He was sent to the lost sheep of Israel, He was to be a Light to lighten the Gentiles.

25 And, behold, there was a man in Jerusalem, whose name was Simeon; and the same man was just and devout, waiting for the consolation of Israel: and the Holy Ghost was upon him. 26 And it was revealed unto him by the Holy Ghost, that he should not see death, before he had seen the Lord's Christ. 27 And he came by the Spirit into the temple: and when the parents brought in the child Jesus, to do for him after the custom of the law, 28 Then took he him up in his arms, and blessed God, and said, 29 Lord, now lettest thou thy servant depart in peace, according to thy word: 30 For mine eyes have seen thy Salvation (Yeshua), 31 Which thou hast prepared before the face of all people; 32 A Light to lighten the Gentiles, and the glory of thy people Israel. (Luke 2:25-32)

Thus Jesus said "I am the Light of the world" (not just Israel) We see in the earthly ministry of Christ that the ones who FIRST believed on Him were the despised Samaritans. And that "He MUST NEEDS go through Samaria. He also went to the coasts of Tyre and Sidon (Gentile territory). And the faith of the Roman centurion whose servant was healed was not found in all Israel at that time.

Sure, after Pentecost. But before that He was tasked specifically to come for Israel. No different from the OT, where God dealt almost exclusively with the nation Israel, but at times brought in strangers.

 

[Nehemiah6]

Jesus came to the Jews...

I thought I had clarified this so let's look at that verse in Matthew 15;24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel. The "Jews" were primarily from the tribe of Judah. But "the house of Israel" includes all twelve tribes.

 

[Genez]

I thought I had clarified this so let's look at that verse in Matthew 15;24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel. The "Jews" were primarily from the tribe of Judah. But "the house of Israel" includes all twelve tribes.

The House of Israel is a term used in the Bible to refer to the descendants of Jacob's twelve sons, who are also known as the Israelites, the tribes of Israel, or the children of Israel.

 

[Nehemiah6]

The House of Israel is a term used in the Bible to refer to the descendants of Jacob's twelve sons, who are also known as the Israelites, the tribes of Israel, or the children of Israel.

Well you just proved that "Jews" is therefore incorrect. All 12 tribes are not Judah. and "Jews" is derived from Judah.

Do you know how that word "Jew" originated? "The word “Jew” ultimately comes from Judah, an ancient kingdom centered in Jerusalem, in the 2nd century BCE. But how did the kingdom's Hebrew name, Yehudah (Judah in English), pronounced ye-hu-DAH, beget “Jew”?"

The first mention of "Jews" (Yehudis) in the Bible is in 2 Kings 16:6: At that time Rezin king of Syria recovered Elath to Syria, and drave the Jews from Elath: and the Syrians came to Elath, and dwelt there unto this day.

 

[Genez]

Well you just proved that "Jews" is therefore incorrect. All 12 tribes are not Judah. and "Jews" is derived from Judah.

Many of the ones who became exiled tribes migrated to southern Judah and settled there while their obstinate brothers were being scattered by God.

Paul was from the tribe of Benjamin.
Yet, he knew he was a Jew!

Are you a gentile? I wonder who began this false teaching.
I was a Jew from birth.
None of us bothered to see what tribe we were from unless one of us was a Levite, and that was only for ceremonial purposes..

The Nazis were not seeking only those from the tribe of Judah, and all the 144,000 evangelists during the Tribulation will have representatives from all the tribes!