Did Jesus take the punishment for our sins?
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No! I've heard this type of argument over 55 years now. The argument goes like this? God the Father could not look at His Son on that cross or words to that affect because He become sin. Or God had forsaken His Son on the cross. 2 Corinthians 5:19, "namely, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not counting their trespasses against them, and He has commitied to us the word or reconcilation."
In other words, the Son volunteered to go through this ordeal and not only that the Father was in Christ, which means He did not forsake His only begotten Son. And we too are commissioned to bring others to God by way of the gospel message. The Son was treated like He was a sinner by the Jews and others and yet He was sinless.
IN GOD THE SON,
bluto
In other words, the Son volunteered to go through this ordeal and not only that the Father was in Christ, which means He did not forsake His only begotten Son. And we too are commissioned to bring others to God by way of the gospel message. The Son was treated like He was a sinner by the Jews and others and yet He was sinless.
IN GOD THE SON,
bluto
No, because the wages of sin is not temporal death, but eternal death. If it were temporal, Jesus would not be required, i.e. we do our time, then back to life. Thus, Jesus did not die eternally, it was only for 3 days, which is not what our punishment would've been, and is not the punishment for the unrepentant. So, penal substitution does not work. Christ's death abrogated the Law which had brought condemnation to all men, i.e. where there is no law, there is no death. But in doing so, he instituted a new law, the law of faith, i.e. faith in Christ's obedience, and God's propitiation because of it.
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No! I've heard this type of argument over 55 years now. The argument goes like this? God the Father could not look at His Son on that cross or words to that affect because He become sin. Or God had forsaken His Son on the cross. 2 Corinthians 5:19, "namely, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not counting their trespasses against them, and He has commitied to us the word or reconcilation."
In other words, the Son volunteered to go through this ordeal and not only that the Father was in Christ, which means He did not forsake His only begotten Son. And we too are commissioned to bring others to God by way of the gospel message. The Son was treated like He was a sinner by the Jews and others and yet He was sinless.
IN GOD THE SON,
bluto
In other words, the Son volunteered to go through this ordeal and not only that the Father was in Christ, which means He did not forsake His only begotten Son. And we too are commissioned to bring others to God by way of the gospel message. The Son was treated like He was a sinner by the Jews and others and yet He was sinless.
IN GOD THE SON,
bluto