Did Jesus save those who ultimately hated Him?

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John 7:6-10
6 Then Jesus said to them: My time is not yet come; but your time is always ready. 7 The world cannot hate you; but me it hateth: because I give testimony of it, that the works thereof are evil. 8 Go you up to this festival day, but I go not up to this festival day: because my time is not accomplished. 9 When he had said these things, he himself stayed in Galilee. 10 But after his brethren were gone up, then he also went up to the feast, not openly, but, as it were, in secret.

John 15:16-20
16 You have not chosen me: but I have chosen you; and have appointed you, that you should go, and should bring forth fruit; and your fruit should remain: that whatsoever you shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you. 17 These things I command you, that you love one another. 18 If the world hate you, know ye, that it hath hated me before you. 19 If you had been of the world, the world would love its own: but because you are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you. 20 Remember my word that I said to you: The servant is not greater than his master. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you: if they have kept my word, they will keep yours also.
 
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John 7:6-10
6 Then Jesus said to them: My time is not yet come; but your time is always ready. 7 The world cannot hate you; but me it hateth: because I give testimony of it, that the works thereof are evil. 8 Go you up to this festival day, but I go not up to this festival day: because my time is not accomplished. 9 When he had said these things, he himself stayed in Galilee. 10 But after his brethren were gone up, then he also went up to the feast, not openly, but, as it were, in secret.

John 15:16-20
16 You have not chosen me: but I have chosen you; and have appointed you, that you should go, and should bring forth fruit; and your fruit should remain: that whatsoever you shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you. 17 These things I command you, that you love one another. 18 If the world hate you, know ye, that it hath hated me before you. 19 If you had been of the world, the world would love its own: but because you are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you. 20 Remember my word that I said to you: The servant is not greater than his master. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you: if they have kept my word, they will keep yours also.
That does not mean to go out to get persecuted. Does not mean to be unfriendly to anyone or just those you choose to. Love all, Forgive all as are first loved and forgiven first by God in Son for you! Please? Read and see Died once for all, that is done in Son for all Hebrews 10:10, Read all Chapter 10 to see the whole truth over the errors used in only reading verses jumping around to other verses to confuse and get you to follow other people over God in truth, that simply loves us all, 1 John 2:1-27

Jesus, loved everyone, loves in God's love to all. Went to the cross willingly to reconcile all as forgiven, and that is done in the death of Son once for us all, all are reconciled, forgiven through Son to God Father of Son forever. Therefore, in prayer to God ask for the new view God has for you Romans 12:2, thanks to Son for us all, at that cross, were we are all reconciled 2 Cor 5:17-20 by God alone in Son as Won once for us all to say thank you and then ask for the risen Life of Son for us all to lead through us, In Father's Spirit and Truth, John 4:23-24
Now, no one is saved in the death, God is the God of the living, not the dead. Jesus is no longer dead, Rose back to life on the third day was dead to the physical, not spiritual ever
Then risen Physically, that many people saw him as risen for the first 40 days as proof, that is no longer needed to get proven, is risen Acts 1, then told the disciples to wait, even though they saw him risen. Said wait? For what? His Father and what happened at Pentecost?
They preached to the crowd or was it Father, Daddy, PaPa to the crowd? I see they and those born new ever since are only willing vessels, anyone else? that is the Born again new in Daddy's Spirit and Truth only, thank you st least learn to be that daily 24/7 while many mistakes get made over a life time in learning, truth over error. seeing nothing can now or forever separate anyone from this love in Son as risen given us to stand in belief to, no matter what troubles happen
Thank you
 
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That does not mean to go out to get persecuted. Does not mean to be unfriendly to anyone or just those you choose to. Love all, Forgive all as are first loved and forgiven first by God in Son for you! Please? Read and see Died once for all, that is done in Son for all Hebrews 10:10, Read all Chapter 10 to see the whole truth over the errors used in only reading verses jumping around to other verses to confuse and get you to follow other people over God in truth, that simply loves us all, 1 John 2:1-27

Jesus, loved everyone, loves in God's love to all. Went to the cross willingly to reconcile all as forgiven, and that is done in the death of Son once for us all, all are reconciled, forgiven through Son to God Father of Son forever. Therefore, in prayer to God ask for the new view God has for you Romans 12:2, thanks to Son for us all, at that cross, were we are all reconciled 2 Cor 5:17-20 by God alone in Son as Won once for us all to say thank you and then ask for the risen Life of Son for us all to lead through us, In Father's Spirit and Truth, John 4:23-24
Now, no one is saved in the death, God is the God of the living, not the dead. Jesus is no longer dead, Rose back to life on the third day was dead to the physical, not spiritual ever
Then risen Physically, that many people saw him as risen for the first 40 days as proof, that is no longer needed to get proven, is risen Acts 1, then told the disciples to wait, even though they saw him risen. Said wait? For what? His Father and what happened at Pentecost?
They preached to the crowd or was it Father, Daddy, PaPa to the crowd? I see they and those born new ever since are only willing vessels, anyone else? that is the Born again new in Daddy's Spirit and Truth only, thank you st least learn to be that daily 24/7 while many mistakes get made over a life time in learning, truth over error. seeing nothing can now or forever separate anyone from this love in Son as risen given us to stand in belief to, no matter what troubles happen
Thank you
Hell is for those who ultimately hate Jesus.
 

lrs68

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The greatest hater of Jesus in human form was Saul and he didn't go to Hell like the Op is claiming. Nope, he had a name change and wrote 2/3 of the New Testament. And is currently in Heaven.
 
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The greatest hater of Jesus in human form was Saul and he didn't go to Hell like the Op is claiming. Nope, he had a name change and wrote 2/3 of the New Testament. And is currently in Heaven.
Saul did not ultimately hate Jesus.

Hell is for those who ultimately hate Jesus.