Obviously.....that is what it states....and a heavy dew would be sufficient when the whole earth was surrounded by a canopy of water.....
Did it rain before the flood?
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Obviously.....that is what it states....and a heavy dew would be sufficient when the whole earth was surrounded by a canopy of water.....
I'm going to hate myself for asking this, but if the earth is flat how did Noah's flood not just drain off the edges?
and to add.....What keeps the oceans from just running off the edge.....
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In Genesis it tells us a "Mist" Kept the vegetation well watered...When Noah built the Ark the people probably mocked and laughed at him and Family.."What Rain Fool"? Ha Ha..that's why God let these people drown for being hard hearted to the Man of God trying to warn them what was coming.
Nothing has changed on Earth since then either. The beleivers and followers of Jesus and The Word are becoming less and less in our present geneneration.
Nothing has changed on Earth since then either. The beleivers and followers of Jesus and The Word are becoming less and less in our present geneneration.
I believe if you reread the story of Adam's fall, you will find the mist watered the Garden each morning until Adam fell to sin. After that time there was no mist to water the garden because it was taken away.
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Yes... just like the people who are now convinced they don't have to prepare to face the tribulation judgments, despite all the warnings...
Sorry, not trying to derail. Just pointing out that the time of Noah's flood IS one of the warnings we face - and ignore at our own peril - today.
BOOK chapter and verse that said this.....and is not rain in the OT a blessing......so me rain in the bible by word before the flood
So how many have seen a rainbow when it hasn't rained? Nobody?
And it shall come to pass, when I bring a cloud over the earth, that the bow shall be seen in the cloud:
Genesis 9:14
Nothing in the passage suggests that the cloud must be raining in order to see the rainbow, yet it states that the bow shall be in the cloud.
Since rainbows only appear when the band of visible white light is refracted, thus the multicolored band can only be seen when the refracted light passes before the observer at a specific angle relative to the location where they are observing it.
But then again refracted light does not bow, it merely moves along a different line of travel relative to the angle of its refraction.
Of course the term 'cloud' has different meanings just as the 'flood' has different meanings in scripture. The cloud is the firmament of gas that was formed withing the frozen waters that covered the entire face of the spherical earth as referenced in Genesis 1:2.
Thus the reason the multicolored band appears as a bow is because of curvature of the earth's atmosphere which extends above the highest mountain upon the spherical earth. Sorry flat earthers,
5 Come and see the works of God: he is terrible in his doing toward the children of men.
6 He turned the sea into dry land: they went through the flood on foot: there did we rejoice in him.
Psalms 66:5-6
Egypt riseth up like a flood, and his waters are moved like the rivers; and he saith, I will go up, and will cover the earth; I will destroy the city and the inhabitants thereof. Jer 46:8
And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
Dan 9:26
But I digress, as far as the great flood of Noah, before the great day of violence that fell upon the children of men then all one has to do is apply a little common sense and the answer to whether or not it rained before that time is obvious.
25 Who hath divided a watercourse for the overflowing of waters, or a way for the lightning of thunder;
26 To cause it to rain on the earth, where no man is; on the wilderness, wherein there is no man;
27 To satisfy the desolate and waste ground; and to cause the bud of the tender herb to spring forth?
28 Hath the rain a father? or who hath begotten the drops of dew?
Job 38:26-28
But that is just what I hear so take it for what it is worth....
And it shall come to pass, when I bring a cloud over the earth, that the bow shall be seen in the cloud:
Genesis 9:14
Nothing in the passage suggests that the cloud must be raining in order to see the rainbow, yet it states that the bow shall be in the cloud.
Since rainbows only appear when the band of visible white light is refracted, thus the multicolored band can only be seen when the refracted light passes before the observer at a specific angle relative to the location where they are observing it.
But then again refracted light does not bow, it merely moves along a different line of travel relative to the angle of its refraction.
Of course the term 'cloud' has different meanings just as the 'flood' has different meanings in scripture. The cloud is the firmament of gas that was formed withing the frozen waters that covered the entire face of the spherical earth as referenced in Genesis 1:2.
Thus the reason the multicolored band appears as a bow is because of curvature of the earth's atmosphere which extends above the highest mountain upon the spherical earth. Sorry flat earthers,
5 Come and see the works of God: he is terrible in his doing toward the children of men.
6 He turned the sea into dry land: they went through the flood on foot: there did we rejoice in him.
Psalms 66:5-6
Egypt riseth up like a flood, and his waters are moved like the rivers; and he saith, I will go up, and will cover the earth; I will destroy the city and the inhabitants thereof. Jer 46:8
And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
Dan 9:26
But I digress, as far as the great flood of Noah, before the great day of violence that fell upon the children of men then all one has to do is apply a little common sense and the answer to whether or not it rained before that time is obvious.
25 Who hath divided a watercourse for the overflowing of waters, or a way for the lightning of thunder;
26 To cause it to rain on the earth, where no man is; on the wilderness, wherein there is no man;
27 To satisfy the desolate and waste ground; and to cause the bud of the tender herb to spring forth?
28 Hath the rain a father? or who hath begotten the drops of dew?
Job 38:26-28
But that is just what I hear so take it for what it is worth....
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Good Read. Thea in reason the mind of man stays in darkness here on earth, is because we have two unseen Spirits fighting for our souls.
God, who wants us to read and obey his words unto us and Withdrawal from The other Spiritual Force fighting for control of us; Satan.
We fight temptation 24/7...The Only way to fight temptation and committing sin is be filled with the Spirit of God. None is strong enough to fight off the fiery darts of Satan unless they are filled with The Spirit of God within them.
God, who wants us to read and obey his words unto us and Withdrawal from The other Spiritual Force fighting for control of us; Satan.
We fight temptation 24/7...The Only way to fight temptation and committing sin is be filled with the Spirit of God. None is strong enough to fight off the fiery darts of Satan unless they are filled with The Spirit of God within them.
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Well there are more than one type of rainbow, so I could see a rainbow type that had never been seen before Noah saw it and that type of rainbow may very well be the only time it was...
A fire rainbow doesn't need rain to be, same with other types as well..
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Just because a rainbow is called that doesn't mean it has to have a bow, a fire rainbow doesn't have to have a bow and others too..
I found this article that talks about how the earth can be watered or wet without actually raining. It talks about three different types and I don't think any of those types would be sufficient enough to cause a flood.
single word requests - What do you call it when it's not raining, but the atmosphere causes everything to be wet? - English Language & Usage Stack Exchange
single word requests - What do you call it when it's not raining, but the atmosphere causes everything to be wet? - English Language & Usage Stack Exchange
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No, it does not mention "The Mist " Except in Genesis...so if there was no Rain Mentioned in the scriptures until the Flood nor mention of Mist you have to assume The Mist was still in effect right? Then The People probably thought Noah and his family were Looney Tunes for even mentioning Rain, because they had never heard of it. The Mist I beleive was still watering all the vegetation to keep every Fruit alive, etc.
QUOTE=JaumeJ;2950399]When it comes to God's Word, I never conclude on my own, but I do make determinations. It stands to reason if the Garden had been watered by a daily morning mist until Adam fell to sin, there was no more mist afterwards. Man was obliged to work the land, pland, cultivate and harvest. Now by this I determine with no mist, there was rain. If there should have been no rain, then Adam somehow concocted an irrigation system from a fresh water source.
As for it not being metnioned before teh Flood, God told Noah that He was goign to cause it to rain. Noah had no need to ask what rain is snce he must have already known..........
I am following a trail of reasonable determination on this question. Now, this question is really of no importance to me nor to anyone but if you and others wish to make it a salvation or no salvation topic.......keep up the dispute.[/QUOTE]
I am just making the point that sometimes in sermons pastors will state things as facts when the information is not conclusive.
Another one is when they state that since the Bible refers to "circle of the earth" that shows it is saying the world is a globe but things can be in a circle and not be round. A CD is a circle that is flat but it is not round and we have all heard of the saying, "flat as a pancake."
Now I in no way believe the earth is flat but instead that the Bible doesn't really say it is or it isn't round but, again, I have heard pastors state the "circle of the earth" is Biblical fact that it is round. At one Bible study I showed a CD to the pastor who said the that the "circle" proves it is round and I pointed out that a CD is flat but still a circle but he didn't answer me.
As for it not being metnioned before teh Flood, God told Noah that He was goign to cause it to rain. Noah had no need to ask what rain is snce he must have already known..........
I am following a trail of reasonable determination on this question. Now, this question is really of no importance to me nor to anyone but if you and others wish to make it a salvation or no salvation topic.......keep up the dispute.[/QUOTE]
I am just making the point that sometimes in sermons pastors will state things as facts when the information is not conclusive.
Another one is when they state that since the Bible refers to "circle of the earth" that shows it is saying the world is a globe but things can be in a circle and not be round. A CD is a circle that is flat but it is not round and we have all heard of the saying, "flat as a pancake."
Now I in no way believe the earth is flat but instead that the Bible doesn't really say it is or it isn't round but, again, I have heard pastors state the "circle of the earth" is Biblical fact that it is round. At one Bible study I showed a CD to the pastor who said the that the "circle" proves it is round and I pointed out that a CD is flat but still a circle but he didn't answer me.
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All this in your post is
Conjecture with no proof. It never says from Genesis to when The Flood was coming if mankind had ever seen it rain back then. Where?. Why would God have a "Mist" water all the flowers, fruits, and all vegetation if Rain would do the trick?
Here is something to Ponder. Since Noah.and his 3 sons took over a Hundred years to build the Ark exactly how God wanted it, don't you.think Noah warned them about the Rain, The Flood, etc? None of those people had seen Rain, nor a Flood!..I think they laughed at Noah when he mentioned it, and probably thought he was Crazy or worse.
Conjecture with no proof. It never says from Genesis to when The Flood was coming if mankind had ever seen it rain back then. Where?. Why would God have a "Mist" water all the flowers, fruits, and all vegetation if Rain would do the trick?
Here is something to Ponder. Since Noah.and his 3 sons took over a Hundred years to build the Ark exactly how God wanted it, don't you.think Noah warned them about the Rain, The Flood, etc? None of those people had seen Rain, nor a Flood!..I think they laughed at Noah when he mentioned it, and probably thought he was Crazy or worse.
What? What difference does that make as I stated , "[FONT="]But then again refracted light does not bow, it merely moves along a different line of travel relative to the angle of its refraction." [/FONT]
Wow, I even provided an illustration so you could hear that refraction does not cause the multicolored band to arc to produce the optical illusion called a rainbow. Neither is the rainbow the bow that the LORD set in the cloud as a token of [FONT="]everlasting covenant. Kinda ironic if you walk by faith and not by sight.[/FONT]
And the bow shall be in the cloud; and I will look upon it, that I may remember the everlasting covenant between God and every living creature of all flesh that is upon the earth. Genesis 9:16