Deuternomy 22:5, how does it apply now?

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CherieR

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How does Deuternomy 22:5 apply today? What do you think?
 

Truth7t7

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How does Deuternomy 22:5 apply today? What do you think?
Perhaps God was speaking to homosexuality of the day?

It certainly would fit today's, transgender homosexual movement?

Deuteronomy 22:5KJV
5 The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the Lord thy God.
 

Adstar

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How does Deuternomy 22:5 apply today? What do you think?
Yes it applies today.. men should wear traditional mens clothing and woman should wear traditional womans clothing..
 
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How does Deuternomy 22:5 apply today? What do you think?
I would think that law was needed to protect the creation of mankind, two working together as one creation. Not two separate creations.

A picture of Christ and the church his bride .

What God has joined together Satan calls separate. And what God calls separate the father of lies calls it one. In the same way what God calls inspired from the unseen heavens the father of lies earthly inspired by his lies. Turning things upside down.

As sons of God according to 1 John we are not what we will be as His eternal bride. No male nor female, neither Jew nor gentile.

Satan the god of this world is behind homosexuality and all sexual perversion.

He would have mankind beleive what the eyes see. . is the end of the matter .

His lying spit at the forefront of every attempt to take away the virtue God's given difference. . Again as if it was all one and the same thing. unisex . . if it feels good do the pleasure of sin like there is no tomorrow.
 
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As only Israel is under the Law, it only applies to them. The Christian is not under the Law of Moses, and nor are the Gentiles. This law was set because God is a God of order. He made the genders unique and set the differences. To cross-clothe overthrows that order. Leviticus 18:23 and 20:12 show the mind of God. It is a "confusion". Also, the word "hypocrite" comes from a Greek word which means, "to me masked like an actor". A cross-clother is one who lies to people about who they really are.
 

JaumeJ

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Israel, ruling with El or prince with El.

Are not all who believe to rule with our Father, not as He by any means but as His children?

Just a curious thought. We are all members of the Body of Yeshua. It stands to reason anything directed at the true Israel is the Word, albeit clarified by our Great Rabbi.
 

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How does Deuternomy 22:5 apply today? What do you think?
I think understanding that the law came from the curse of adam And eve would tell us that it doesn’t apply to those in Christ . But was a result of eves curse being differentiated from Adam , whereas beforehand they were one.

adam was placed above eve only because she listened first to the serpent and led to thier downfall it was part of the curse beforehand they were both made in Gods image, not needing to separate

women are told to wear long hair as a covering also because of the curse , are made subject to thier husband also because of the curse . The law must be understood as Gods response to mankind’s sinfulness coming as a result of the curse it wasn’t from the beginning

Gods design for man and woman is what we have in Christ no distinction

“So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭1:27‬ ‭KJV‬‬

woman is made subject to her husband here as a result of the curse of sin and death


“Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭3:16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

the law then comes much later as a result of the beginning fall. So in the law you have a severe distinction between
Men and women taking the form of the curse. So in that law you have a bunch of carnal commands to reveal the destruction of the curse of sin upon man . In Christ however we see a return to Gods design

“There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭3:28‬ ‭KJV‬‬

God doesn’t care what a person wears if it’s decent and not provocative , he cares about how we treat other people. When a woman dresses provocatively , it provokes lust in some men or the opposite . So how we dress needs to be respectable and all but honestly I don’t think it’s about the clothes we wear in Christ but more About those fine linens wire and clean he promises for our lives
 

stepbystep

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How does Deuternomy 22:5 apply today? What do you think?
I suggest you do a "search" to find out what the Apostle Paul taught concerning this. I believe he speaks of how women should dress/adorn themselves, and how both men and women are to conduct themselves.

Those parts of the Old Testament that were carried over into the New Testament by the Apostles in their writings are still in effect for the Church today in my opinion.
 

CherieR

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I suggest you do a "search" to find out what the Apostle Paul taught concerning this. I believe he speaks of how women should dress/adorn themselves, and how both men and women are to conduct themselves.

Those parts of the Old Testament that were carried over into the New Testament by the Apostles in their writings are still in effect for the Church today in my opinion.
I did a Google search on the meaning of Deuternomy 22:5. What kind of search do you think would be good to look into?
 

CherieR

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Israel, ruling with El or prince with El.

Are not all who believe to rule with our Father, not as He by any means but as His children?

Just a curious thought. We are all members of the Body of Yeshua. It stands to reason anything directed at the true Israel is the Word, albeit clarified by our Great Rabbi.
Hello JaumeJ , please rephrase the question. I don't understand your question.
 

posthuman

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Yes it applies today.. men should wear traditional mens clothing and woman should wear traditional womans clothing..
in the day that this was written, men and women alike generally wore single-piece tunics. a woman's tunic might be slightly longer, have brighter colors or be of a bit finer weave.

so what do we mean by 'traditional' -- traditional for who? whatever culture we happen to find ourselves in?
 

infinitekhanol

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"Pilgrimshope, posted

I think understanding that the law came from the curse of adam And eve would tell us that it doesn’t apply to those in Christ . But was a result of eves curse being differentiated from Adam , whereas beforehand they were one.

adam was placed above eve only because she listened first to the serpent and led to thier downfall it was part of the curse beforehand they were both made in Gods image, not needing to separate

women are told to wear long hair as a covering also because of the curse , are made subject to thier husband also because of the curse . The law must be understood as Gods response to mankind’s sinfulness coming as a result of the curse it wasn’t from the beginning

Gods design for man and woman is what we have in Christ no distinction

“So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭1:27‬ ‭KJV‬‬

woman is made subject to her husband here as a result of the curse of sin and death


“Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭3:16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

the law then comes much later as a result of the beginning fall. So in the law you have a severe distinction between
Men and women taking the form of the curse. So in that law you have a bunch of carnal commands to reveal the destruction of the curse of sin upon man . In Christ however we see a return to Gods design

“There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭3:28‬ ‭KJV‬‬

God doesn’t care what a person wears if it’s decent and not provocative , he cares about how we treat other people. When a woman dresses provocatively , it provokes lust in some men or the opposite . So how we dress needs to be respectable and all but honestly I don’t think it’s about the clothes we wear in Christ but more About those fine linens wire and clean he promises for our lives[/QUOTE]


I couldn't agree more
 

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I don’t think it’s about the clothes we wear...
The clothes people wear outwardly are indeed an expression of who they are. We ought not to imagine that clothes make no difference to the impression we created. All believers are within a Royal Priesthood. So when you see how God instructed His Levitical priests to dress, it is meant to be a lesson to Christians.
 

CherieR

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It is just as valid today -- probably even more so -- than it was at that time.
How would someone apply it today?

I am a lady and have a wardrobe of women's clothes, and yet I also have two men's long sleeve outerwear. Both have a plaid pattern which type of pattern I have seen in both men's and women's clothing.

Is this verse is more for someone who wants to dress as the opposite gender and present themselves looking more as the opposite gender or does it mean something else?
 

Pilgrimshope

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The clothes people wear outwardly are indeed an expression of who they are. We ought not to imagine that clothes make no difference to the impression we created. All believers are within a Royal Priesthood. So when you see how God instructed His Levitical priests to dress, it is meant to be a lesson to Christians.[/QUOTE

hello brother I look at it like this a good opportunity to look at scripture and let it speak about this

“My brethren, have not the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory, with respect of persons.

For if there come unto your assembly a man with a gold ring, in goodly apparel, and there come in also a poor man in vile raiment;

And ye have respect to him that weareth the gay clothing, and say unto him, Sit thou here in a good place; and say to the poor, Stand thou there, or sit here under my footstool: Are ye not then partial in yourselves, and are become judges of evil thoughts?

If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well:

But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.”
‭‭James‬ ‭2:1-4, 8-9‬ ‭KJV‬‬


It’s actually a transgression to base judgements on outward appearances but that’s only my own belief .

we should not make judgements about people regarding clothes or any appearance . The way to properly represent Christ has nothing to do with dress codes it has to do with what we do regarding other people.
God is looking at the royal law part not apparel so I would have to disagree with you a bit I certainly will never make any distinction of someone’s place in Gods family based on thier clothing or social or economic status but how do they treat the other people in thier lives.

Remember the original church , they weren’t a superficial society , doesn’t matter if my tone outwardly is a rag , and yours is a royal one ....what matters is the garments Jesus provides.

some of the least of the world according to
Our human ideas will be far greater than those dressed in the royal robes in this life , like Lazarus the beggar I’m sure he wasn’t dressed fine , he probably was dirty also . And the Pharisees he would have had expensive robes and been very clean

but in the end it didn’t matter either way to God what they wore God bless and again no argument just a different understanding you could be right
 
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Gucci peddling its line of haute couture ...

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CherieR

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Gucci peddling its line of haute couture ...

Welcome to MX
Gucci's collections set out to deconstruct preconceived binaries and question how these concepts relate to our bodies. Celebrating self-expression in the name of all gender equality, the House presents MX.


The House's collections emphasize the dissolving lines of the gender divide in the name of self expression. Playing with the constructive nature of gender, MX underlines the performative nature of what we wear, presenting masculinity and femininity as relative concepts.


I have never heard of Gucci. I don't like these three looks in the picture to be honest.