Demon possession in the old testament?

[The_Watchers_2017]

Not inspired. Certainly not part of the OT...

who cares when it was the Bible to Ancient Hebrew People from Solomon's Temple to the 70 AD Temple destruction and Jesus, Peter, Paul, Jude, John quote Enoch.

Why toss something here that was being used as Bible?

It's more Bible than the Septuagint of your Old Testament that uses mythical Greek terms like God's Power is that of Unicorn.

Book of Enoch matches the Torah/Tanakh.

the KJV don't match the Torah/Tanakh and that is a major problem because the Torah/Tanakh is the MASTER TEXT!

So, the Book of Enoch matches the MASTER TEXT better than your current Old Testament.

Talk about Books that were never Inspired [Greek Translation of the Old Testament] then because 10th Century Latin Vilgate to Erasmus Textus Receptus to the OT of the KJV Bible]!

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

Talk about Books that were never Inspired [Greek Translation of the Old Testament] then because 10th Century Latin Vilgate to Erasmus Textus Receptus to the OT of the KJV Bible]!

Everyone knows that after Jerome's Death, until the 10th Century, the RCC [[ADDED]] to the Bible. Then Erasmus used this 10th Century Version to create the Textus Receptus [and he writes that he knew about these errors]. But that Textus Receptus, with backing of the RCC, pushed the current Version of the Bible and not long afterwards, the King James adopts the Version for itself.

So, Theoretically, the First Stance of Enoch, is More Holy Spirit Inspired than the entire Collection of the Old Testament from the Textus Receptus/KJV.

 

[Magenta]

who cares when it was the Bible to Ancient Hebrew People from Solomon's Temple
to the 70 AD Temple destruction and Jesus, Peter, Paul, Jude, John quote Enoch.

Why toss something here that was being used as Bible?

According to historical accounts, Enoch was not accepted as inspired. The Apocryphal and
Pseudepigraphical writings were preserved in the Catholic Bible but not canonized in the Hebrew
Bible due to a number of reasons, starting with their questionable authorship or authenticity. They
were all written during a time (400 years) between the two testaments when it was acknowledged
there were no prophets, no direct revelation from God, and none of the writers lay any claim to inspiration.
The New Testament Jews never included them in any Jewish collection of Scriptures. Contrary to people
believing that books have been removed from the Bible, the opposite is actually true: books have been added.

Josephus says: “We do not possess myriads of inconsistent books, conflicting with each other. Our books,
those which are justly accredited, are but two and twenty [the equivalent of the 39 books of the Hebrew
Scriptures according to modern division], and contain the record of all time.”

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

The Man, and we ALL know the true story, of the Man, who worshiped the "god" Apollo, and it was not UNTIL his own DEATH BED, he is said, to finally have given his life to Christ.

Which means, the Council's to DETERMINE the INSPIRATION of the Bible, was a Worshiper of the Pagan Demon Apollo!

It's rather obvious more Books should have been included.

the Man was Constantine:

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

According to historical accounts, Enoch was not accepted as inspired. The Apocryphal and
Pseudepigraphical writings were preserved in the Catholic Bible but not canonized in the Hebrew
Bible due to a number of reasons, starting with their questionable authorship or authenticity. They
were all written during a time (400 years) between the two testaments when it was acknowledged
there were no prophets, no direct revelation from God, and none of the writers lay any claim to inspiration.
The New Testament Jews never included them in any Jewish collection of Scriptures. Contrary to people
believing that books have been removed from the Bible, the opposite is actually true: books have been added.

I don't go by Catholic history but Jewish. And the Rabbi's still talk about how from the time when Solomon built the Temple until the last Temple was destroyed in 70 AD, the JEWS believed Enoch was Inspired, and still do.

I trust the Jews over the Catholics any day.

 

[Magenta]

I don't go by Catholic history but Jewish. And the Rabbi's still talk about how from the time when Solomon
built the Temple until the last Temple was destroyed in 70 AD, the JEWS believed Enoch was Inspired, and still do.

I trust the Jews over the Catholics any day.

Doesn't sound like it. Enoch was included by Catholics, not Jews, ever.

 

[Aaron56]

Just food for thought: entire civilizations have been built around demonic principles. Of course, this is not a popular consideration among those who promote multi-culturalism.

 

[SpeakTruth101]

Doesn't sound like it. Enoch was included by Catholics, not Jews, ever.

Jude included it, the 1st 36 chapters were the scroll he quoted from, its dated to that time period...

Jude 1:6-7,, “And the messengers (angels) who did not keep their own principality, but left their own dwelling, He has kept in everlasting shackles under darkness for the judgment of the great day. Even as Seḏom and Amorah and the cities around them in a similar way to these, having given themselves over to whoring and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, undergoing judicial punishment of everlasting fire.”

Jude 1:14-15, “Ḥanoḵ (Enoch), the seventh from Aḏam, also prophesied of these, saying, “See, יהוה comes with His myriads of set-apart ones, to execute judgment on all, to punish all who are wicked among them concerning all their wicked works which they have committed in a wicked way, and concerning all the harsh words which wicked sinners have spoken against Him.”


1 Enoch 1:3-9, “And I [Enoch] took up with a parable (saying), “The God of the universe, the Holy Great One, will come forth from his dwelling. And from there he will march upon Mount Sinai and appear in his camp emerging from heaven with a mighty power. And everyone shall be afraid, and Watchers shall quiver. And great fear and trembling shall seize them unto the ends of the earth. Mountains and high places will fall down and be frightened. And high hills shall be made low; and they shall melt like a honeycomb before the flame. And earth shall be rent asunder, and all that is upon the earth shall perish. And there shall be a judgment upon all, (including) the righteous. And to all the righteous he will grant peace. He will preserve the elect, and kindness shall be upon them. They shall all belong to God and they shall prosper and be blessed; and the light of God shall shine unto them. Behold, he will arrive with ten million [ten thousand times a thousand] of the holy ones in order to execute judgment upon all. He will destroy the wicked ones and censure all flesh on account of everything that they have done, that which the sinners and the wicked ones committed against him.”

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

Doesn't sound like it. Enoch was included by Catholics, not Jews, ever.

It's in the Torah and Talmud and other Ancient Jewish Writings.

It's still in Oral Tradition but written all throughout the True Hebrew Old Testament.

So, what do you mean, they don't have it?

It is literally Everywhere and I quoted from Leviticus of it with connection to God, Moses.

From Book of Enoch:
Azazel is the rebellious angel at the head of a heavenly plot to take over the earth. The First Book of Enoch retells the story cited in Genesis (6, 1–4) of the angels who had relations with the daughters of men. The offspring of their unnatural union were the nefilim—giants of renown who filled the earth.

From the Torah/the LAW:
Azazel is one of the leaders of the rebellious Watchers in the time preceding the Flood; he taught men the art of warfare, of making swords, knives, shields, and coats of mail, and taught women the art of deception by ornamenting the body, dyeing the hair, and painting the face and the eyebrows, and also revealed .

And here are some Verses with God addressing Moses about AZAZEL:

Leviticus 16:
8 and he shall place lots upon the two goats, one marked for יהוה and the other marked for Azazel.

9 Aaron shall bring forward the goat designated by lot for יהוה, which he is to offer as a sin offering;

10 while the goat designated by lot for Azazel shall be left standing alive before יהוה, to make expiation with it and to send it off to the wilderness for Azazel.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

It's the SAME AZAZEL in ENOCH, LEVITICUS, TORAH-TALMUD-Other Yiddish Writings.

What do you mean, the JEWS, don't have record of it from Enoch.

Enoch, is the REASON, they know who AZAZEL is!

 

[Magenta]

It's in the Torah and Talmud and other Ancient Jewish Writings.

It's still in Oral Tradition but written all throughout the True Hebrew Old Testament.

So, what do you mean, they don't have it?

Where did I say they didn't have it? I didn't. They did not consider it inspired.

Check out #3 reason particularly on this page (<= link). The whole page is informative.

 

[Mem]

There is a sect of mystical Jewish teachings, Kabbalah, that Madonna, the 80s singer, subscribes to.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

Interesting! Well I only have to read a few chapters in the NT and it is there in a plain explicit sense that no other context can be possible other than demonic activity is real. But and as you say I would have to read the OT over and over to maybe find a possible mention, In other words if its hard to find!! maybe I would need to make up my mind that its there before I could find it?

You will certainly see the most about demonic activity when Jesus was upon the earth. The book of Mark has Jesus casting them out left and right in every town.
Genesis established Satan's attack on God through those He created in Chapter 3, so it is easy to find. The Bible ends with an entire book revealed to His people about what is to come. The Lord Jesus describes in the first 3 chapters what He expects from His churches. Right after that He gets into the angelic conflict in the future. In-between Genesis and Revelation are literally hundreds of references about angels and fallen angels and their influence on mankind.

After I took the message in this link to heart, I began to see these things in a supernatural way, because the Lord revealed them directly.
Heaven

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

Where did I say they didn't have it? I didn't. They did not consider it inspired.

Check out #3 reason particularly on this page (<= link). The whole page is informative.

Enoch is NOWHERE listed.

Nowhere is Enoch listed on that list of Apocrypha.

 

[SpeakTruth101]

You will certainly see the most about demonic activity when Jesus was upon the earth. The book of Mark has Jesus casting them out left and right in every town.
Genesis established Satan's attack on God through those He created in Chapter 3, so it is easy to find. The Bible ends with an entire book revealed to His people about what is to come. The Lord Jesus describes in the first 3 chapters what He expects from His churches. Right after that He gets into the angelic conflict in the future. In-between Genesis and Revelation are literally hundreds of references about angels and fallen angels and their influence on mankind.

After I took the message in this link to heart, I began to see these things in a supernatural way, because the Lord revealed them directly.
Heaven

One such spirit endorsed Paul:

Acts 16:16-17, “16 As we were going to the place of prayer, we were met by a slave girl who had a spirit of divination (Python) and brought her owners much gain by fortune-telling. 17 She followed Paul and us, crying out, “These men are servants of the Most High God, who proclaim to you the way of salvation.”

“divination” is word #G4436 - puthón: Python, a mythical serpent slain by Apollo, divination, Original Word: Πύθων, ωνος, ὁ, Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine, Transliteration: puthón, Phonetic Spelling: (poo'-thone), Definition: Python, a mythical serpent slain by Apollo, divination, Usage: a divining spirit, Python, called after the Pythian serpent said to have guarded the oracle at Delphi and been slain by Apollo.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

Enoch nor Jasher is considered Apocrypha, which is important, because Jasher shows us how Abraham is part of the Lineage of Seth, by way of his great Grandfather, Noah.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

But this Thread is about Demons in Old Testament.

This is Proof:
AZAZEL

From Book of Enoch:
Azazel is the rebellious angel at the head of a heavenly plot to take over the earth. The First Book of Enoch retells the story cited in Genesis (6, 1–4) of the angels who had relations with the daughters of men. The offspring of their unnatural union were the nefilim—giants of renown who filled the earth.

From the Torah/the LAW:
Azazel is one of the leaders of the rebellious Watchers in the time preceding the Flood; he taught men the art of warfare, of making swords, knives, shields, and coats of mail, and taught women the art of deception by ornamenting the body, dyeing the hair, and painting the face and the eyebrows, and also revealed .

And here are some Verses with God addressing Moses about AZAZEL:

Leviticus 16:
8 and he shall place lots upon the two goats, one marked for יהוה and the other marked for Azazel.

9 Aaron shall bring forward the goat designated by lot for יהוה, which he is to offer as a sin offering;

10 while the goat designated by lot for Azazel shall be left standing alive before יהוה, to make expiation with it and to send it off to the wilderness for Azazel.


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In Ancient Hebrew Tradition, the Demon LILITH is specifically mentioned by the Prophet Isaiah:

Isaiah 34:
Wildcats shall meet hyenas,
Demons shall greet each other;
There too the lilith shall repose
And find herself a resting place.

^
interesting how Isaiah calls this Demon: the lilith...the lilith


Deuteronomy tells us of People who sacrificed to Demons:

32:
They sacrificed to demons, no-gods,
gods they had never known

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

This Verse by Isaiah, makes me think about the African Desert/Haiti Boonies:

Isaiah 34:
Wildcats shall meet hyenas,
Demons shall greet each other;
There too the lilith shall repose
And find herself a resting place.

Wildcats must be Lions/Tigers/Cheetah's, Panthers, Pumas, etc. according to Region.

I wonder if ..the lilith... could today be connected to Voodoo?

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

Enoch nor Jasher is considered Apocrypha, which is important, because Jasher shows us how Abraham is part of the Lineage of Seth, by way of his great Grandfather, Noah.

just realized, that the Enoch I am talking about, would then be Abraham's great great great great Grandfather.

 

[Mem]

What makes spirits demonic is that they are lying spirits, and those have been recorded from the creation of man. This is mainly why I believe 'the one who lets (restrainer) will continue to do so until he is taken out of the way' isn't speaking of the Holy Spirit. The man with the mute spirit that Jesus cast out in Luke 11:14, when it left him, spoke. The spirit that had been restraining him left, and he was loosed from the belief in its however convincing lie that he could not speak.