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I wouldn't worry too much about being attracted to goths, as I understand it it's more of musicfandom/fashion thing. Witches are another matter, steer clear of them.
He is not attracted to them, they are attracted to him.
Also goths tend to focus on paganism 'white witchcraft', spells and rituals and the belief they can put curses on others. Hence the frequently seen up pointing pentagram they often wear. Nature worship, goddess worship and such things.
Not to mention some of them believing themselves to be vampires and will literally drink another's blood.
Most often they are a pretty passive group and you don't see a lot of violence from them.
Naturally depression is quite common with them, and depression causes people to act and think inwardly, not expressing their pain outwardly.
This is why self harm is more common in this subculture.
Some are also into dark things and that adds to the draw of it.
Many seem to feel empowered by the white magic side of it all. People that clearly feel powerless within themselves without it.
And, weirdly, heavier set girls seem drawn to white magic as well. Or even black magic.
And yes, I'm aware all magic is wrong and evil, but this is how they view it.
 
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He is not attracted to them, they are attracted to him.
Also goths tend to focus on paganism 'white witchcraft', spells and rituals and the belief they can put curses on others. Hence the frequently seen up pointing pentagram they often wear. Nature worship, goddess worship and such things.
Not to mention some of them believing themselves to be vampires and will literally drink another's blood.
Most often they are a pretty passive group and you don't see a lot of violence from them.
havent heard that before, but then again I really don't know a whole lot about the subject, the few I've known were pretty softcore. Though I can imagine there are more extreme ones out there.
 
havent heard that before, but then again I really don't know a whole lot about the subject, the few I've known were pretty softcore. Though I can imagine there are more extreme ones out there.
I've kept my eye on some of the subcultures in the past. Being in the metal subculture opens you a bit to other subcultures.
Also having seen them in public or even working with them. And this was 30 years ago, I can only imagine what they're like now.

But, yeah, in any subculture there's always the ones deep into it, and some that dip their toe into it or think they know what it is to be part of that subculture but they're really just wannabes.
 
So the gal kinds revealed herself.. she keeps sending me memes of marrying Satan and stuff. He good friend that friended me plays only Satanic metal music but says he us an Atheist, but if you think about it a Satanic worshiper csn claim athiesm, because they do not worship God or gods, but a fallen angel.

Suffice to say, I have cut tied again.. its hard when you are so isolated. People latch on and you ignore minor signs of darkness or justify it with “I will be a witness.”

What sealed it for mr is she said “your faith is only little part of you, its only little thing.” Oh how she doesnt understand us Christians. Christ is everything, the air we breath, and our heart beat.. sigh.

I lapsed back to the friendship and only more was revealed. I have to do the hard of keeping this soul tie severed.
 
I do have to wonder where it is that u r hanging out in order to attract these ' dark girls ' ? What kind of places r u meeting them ? Maybe u should frequent places where Christian girls r more likely to b found ? Just the first thought that came into my head when I read your post . I would genuinely b interested to know where u actually r when they gravitate towards u ?
It is mostly online, forums and Discord that is fantasy games and shows related.
 
So I have it sorted, you cannot marry an unbeliever,
“A woman is bound to her husband as long as he lives. But if her husband dies, she is free to marry anyone she wishes, but he must belong to the Lord.” (1 Corinthians 7:39). In same way it can be applies for the Man, he must marry a woman who belongs to the Lord.
 
So I have it sorted, you cannot marry an unbeliever,
“A woman is bound to her husband as long as he lives. But if her husband dies, she is free to marry anyone she wishes, but he must belong to the Lord.” (1 Corinthians 7:39). In same way it can be applies for the Man, he must marry a woman who belongs to the Lord.

Well dang, if that's all ya wanted to know we coulda saved ourselves a whole lotta typing! 😜
 
Yeah what concerns me is my best friend growing up met his wife in middle of a great trauma, her parents of forty plus years were splitting up. Well my bestie is divorced now, because the bond was formed in trenches of trauma as you speak of.

That is my concern, if a Lady falls for me in the middle of her gauntlet or right after, it can be simply that I am an empath and am there and helping, but when she has healed she will leave, because one thing they don't tell you about abused and hurt people, when they heal they want you gone because you remind them of the time they were still healing and hurt, you are medicine box with bandages and memories that remind them of their hard times and so they off load you...

Maybe I need to consider the AI Wife thing lol joking. XD

You are so right. And many breakages in the minds is because we have built our societies so. our minds are conditionned to see faults and refuse to fix it. Just go for separation when it's not going right. while there are extreme cases that need separation there are also some very flimsy reasons for Divorce even among Christians. sincerely it's frightening and I wonder if we still trust Christ to handle our matters.
 
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Continuing to struggle with this one person. They are friend online, and here is the bizarre paradoxes that make me worried:

They showed me a list of thier books, many are romances between women and fallen angels, which Genesis 6:3-12 and Jude address as evil. In her collection is “How to Summon Demons..”

She started out saying she was an Atheist, then later says she in an Anglican, but suggested I use Pentagram in spiritual warefare.. whaat?!

She sends artwork that is temptations, even when I told her I do not want to be sent that artwork, she then got into a whole thing with me about it.

On the positives, she is one of the only persons in existence who asks me about my day, how I am doing as caregiver to a dementia parent, and who sends me memes and stuff to make me laugh when I feel down.

I have the red flags spiritually, it’s just hard because it is the only person I know that checks on me, and cares about my health, and what is going on in my day to day; but spiritually there is problems.

I determine to cut her off, and then thoughts like, “that is going to hurt her, and she has been a good friend to you,” creep in and yet I cannot ignore that she does send temptations and spiritually is all over the place.
 
She sends artwork that is temptations, even when I told her I do not want to be sent that artwork, she then got into a whole thing with me about it.......

.......I determine to cut her off, and then thoughts like, “that is going to hurt her, and she has been a good friend to you,” creep in.

Disrespecting your wishes regarding the artwork is not the mark of a 'good friend". The spiritual red flags are more than enough to tell you not to be close with this girl, but if you need an emotional red flag this is it.

Most females are more than capable of acting "nice" in order to get what they want. You are playing with fire.
 
It is mostly online, forums and Discord that is fantasy games and shows related.
I know of a discord server that is primarily Lutheran, but everyone of every faith is allowed. Even pagans, as long as they don't promote their religion. I know the owner personally, and we do a prayer bible study 3 days a week on VC, its optional, of course.

I worry for you, i would like to ask you more questions, but wont. I will post the discord server her though in case you want to join:) we are a very friendly group. https://disboard.org/server/1241494481174270084

Please if anyone joins, follow the rules! and keep in mind our beliefs, our bible study often references the Concordia and Lutheran history.
 
Continuing to struggle with this one person. They are friend online, and here is the bizarre paradoxes that make me worried:

They showed me a list of thier books, many are romances between women and fallen angels, which Genesis 6:3-12 and Jude address as evil. In her collection is “How to Summon Demons..”

She started out saying she was an Atheist, then later says she in an Anglican, but suggested I use Pentagram in spiritual warefare.. whaat?!

She sends artwork that is temptations, even when I told her I do not want to be sent that artwork, she then got into a whole thing with me about it.

On the positives, she is one of the only persons in existence who asks me about my day, how I am doing as caregiver to a dementia parent, and who sends me memes and stuff to make me laugh when I feel down.

I have the red flags spiritually, it’s just hard because it is the only person I know that checks on me, and cares about my health, and what is going on in my day to day; but spiritually there is problems.

I determine to cut her off, and then thoughts like, “that is going to hurt her, and she has been a good friend to you,” creep in and yet I cannot ignore that she does send temptations and spiritually is all over the place.

You need better friends, I am sorry to hear that you do not have many the actively ask about your day and send you memes. your life sounds isolated. Do you have any IRL friends? I don't lol, my best friend was a 60 year old woman who is now hanging out with my mom after I relocated. I will still consider her a friend for now. But its awkward to have my best friend hanging out with my mom. We used to talk about out troubled childhoods and now I just feel like I wont be able to talk to her about those things anymore.

Anyway, if you can IRL friends are the best. I am going to have a hard time making any as of now for may reasons, but when I had them it was nice:)
 
I keep attracting dark gals.. Goths.. witches.. and etc.

I do not get it, often it happens when I am shining in my Christian ways.

I keep thinking of the verse,
"In that day seven women will take hold of one man and say, “We will eat our own food and provide our own clothes; only let us be called by your name. Take away our disgrace!” (Isaiah 4:`1).

Other than that.. I guess it could be sabotage plans from the enemy camp.

Any advice?
What places are you frequenting that you meet these People? Hope that you can find better folks.
 
Are most of these attractions online?

Not that it can't happen in real life, of course. What is the emotional and mental state of the women you attract? I've found that a lot of women drawn to these beliefs often have abusive/troubled backgrounds and are pulled into these sects because of the feeling of empowerment it gives them. It makes them feel like they have some sort of power or control and can prevent being hurt, protect themselves and their loved ones, and/or seek revenge.

When online chatting was brand-new, I had a conversation I'll never forget with a woman who identified as someone of high ranking within the Wiccan system. Her family had been strict Catholics, and when she tried to go to them for help because her grandfather started sexually abusing her starting when she was 5, and they told her she must somehow be "tempting" him, because he was a "good man" and would surely never do something like this on her own.

Nothing was done to stop him and she was handed all the blame. She said the the reason she became a Wiccan is because it allowed her, as a woman (in her own reasoning,) to feel empowered and to never allow herself to be abused like that again.

I used to follow another woman on YouTube who said she was part of the Wiccan belief system because her father too had been extremely abusive, and she used Wiccan spells to "bind his power" and keep him away from her, her husband, and their kids.

If a common vein between most of these women is emotional pain and/or abusive backgrounds, I can see why they would flock to you, especially online. Many people out there will throw themselves headfirst at any scrap of compassion or willingness to listen because they've never been granted that before, and/or because they've come to rely on attention as their primary coping mechanism.

I'm about a plain as a sheet of school paper, but throughout my life, I've attracted a lot of party boys, and now, party men. My ears are only pierced once, I have no tattoos, I don't drink, I don't smoke, I've never tried drugs, and I don't go to parties. But guys like this see something in me that they hope will save them. I remember one guy at work asking me if he called me from a party because he was plastered, would I pick him up (I never gave anyone my phone number there except my boss,) and when I said no, he asked why not.

He said that with as compassionate as I seemed to others, wouldn't I want to help save him?

Believe me, I've been there, done that, and have all the scars to prove it. But this too is often what I attract. People who see something in the way I am that they either sincerely think will change them for the better, or that they want to exploit because they want to keep one and a half feet firmly planted in their own world, but also want to believe that someone will love them enough to put up with their antics while repeatedly rescuing them from their own terrible choices.

I know Christians will say, "It's the light of Christ that attracts these people," and I'm sure that's what these women see in you as well.

But as you have expressed several times here on the forum, almost all in these belief systems are drawn to it only because they want to use the good in you for their own purposes. Most have no interest in doing the hard work or going through the genuine pain it will take to truly change.

I was a doormat for a lot of people for many years, until a good friend of mine told me, "Most people want attention, not true healing."

I am much more selective now about who I let in and who I get close to, and it's made a world of difference, though admittedly, has shrank the number of people I talk to regularly to down to a few, and only those who, unfortunately, live across the country.

However, it's been well worth it, and I hope you'll be able to discern, cut off, and only keep the people around whom God wants to be in your life, too.
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This is exactly why they are drawn to you.

I went through a long period in life where people who had been sexually abused were always opening up to me about their stories. It got to be so regular that I started having physical pains (stabbing feelings, like lightning going through my abdomen) as a warning sign. I remember one flash so severe while I was driving that I had to stop in a parking lot for a few minutes.

And I would immediately start to pray and look around me because I knew God was about to send someone else who needed someone to listen.

Your compassion and the fact that you don't judge is what draws them in. Some have never told their story and are dying to tell someone. Some don't want to tell someone that in some cases (NOT ALL of course, but in some,) they eventually started to like the physical sensations but hated what it was doing to their soul, and it made them think of self-deleting. One woman told me she had to use it as a bargaining chip to survive as she was growing up (as the abuser was a parental figure.) Some are dying to confess their feelings but have never had someone to confess to.

Most people will give their stories in small bites, testing to see what kind of reaction they get. When you respond with understanding and not judgment, it breaks the dam of emotion they've been using to try to hold everything back.

The fact that you listen, offer comfort and compassion, and don't tell them its somehow their fault or that they are evil or sinful is going to draw women like this to you in flocks and droves, no matter what you look like.

I don't know if this will work for you, but I know eventually I was having a hard time coping with dealing with so much of other people's trauma (from both men and women,) but God knew I was on overload and thankfully, the work in trying to help others had slowed down to a more manageable pace.

However, some people (myself included) get to a point where we falsely come to see our value in comforting or helping such people, and when no one is relying on us to trauma-dump, we (I) sometimes go looking for more of it (because it makes us feel as if we have worth,) and ignore that it is severely crippling our own emotional and spiritual health in the process.
Well Said, Once Again, I Relate ALL TO WELL. I Finally Broke and God Showed Me that I Had No Choice but to Walk Away. He Finally Showed Me that I Had a Savior Complex and that I Am NOT Jesus. No Matter How Much that I want to Help. I Need to Allow Christ to Help Me. And I Need to Pray for God to Help Others Instead Because He is the Only One that Can. Thank You for Sharing...
 
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@SirSolaScriptura, There's likely multiple pieces to this puzzle but you might try looking up "super empath" and see if anything strikes a chord. 🙏
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