What does that have to do with the man in linen"?
it is clear that Gabriel and Michael listen to HIM
And it is clear that Gabriel and Michael serve GOD
Dan. 9
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it is clear that Gabriel and Michael listen to HIM
And it is clear that Gabriel and Michael serve GOD
Are you aware of just how close they are to building the Temple? They have almost everything they need for the Temple service, have been training the priest, all they need is the Red Heifer, and the Temple. Although last I heard they think they have found the RH. Time is getting short folks, and I am ex-sighted.
Rainrider there are many things that have to happen before the temple is rebuilt... From my understanding they have about 90% of all the utensils used in the temple already made. There already has been a herd of Red Heifers on a Israeli farm. There is a prophecy that Jews will return from every country in the world before the end times.... RIght now, from what I am getting there are 87 counties on that list. Only 13 more to go...That could have changed in the last 3 months,, I have not checked it out since then.
If you look at the other prophecies that could happen today, The time is even closer. Look at Russia and the US... We shot down a Syrian jet and Russia tells us to stay out or they will shoot us down....The building of all the settlements have angered the people around them. The moving of our embassy to Jerusalem will cause pain. The Golan Heights are at a tipping point. That is another prophecy that could happen --the destruction of Damascus -- is still on the Horizon. The land of Elam destroyed by Israeli forces has not happened yet? and many many more.
It does not bother anyone that Jesus was the reason for Temple worship and animal sacrifices in the first place and that Jesus came and fulfilled all that pertains to Temple worship and animal sacrifices and that NOW, the Temple of God is the church. God Himself ended Temple worship and animal sacrifices, so how are men out of the will of God going to bring it back?
Yes. It bothers believes greatly and it confuses us in how the Jews to whom the WORD and LAW came, can overlook Haggai 2 and train for priestly ministries when GOD had already declared all peoples and nations before HIM unclean
In my mind at lest, it has nothing to with man being the will of HaShem. Rather it is about the fulfillment of prophecy. I know full well that if I was to run to Jerusalem and give a sin offering, it would be a slap i the face of Yeshua, and His sacrifice for my sin. I also don't really think that He wants or needs a 3rd Temple. That in no way changes the fact that it will be built.
Hi, Do you think there is any answer for the dilemma? There is a reason to believe that the Jews could build a Temple of God in the last days, however there is even greater reason to believe that it cannot be done.
Our ideas of what will happen have to be based entirely on scripture, scripture tells us that the Jews cannot build a Temple of God while the church remains on the earth.
It hasn't ended for Israel, for there is one seven year period left of the seventy sevens that were decreed upon Israel, as described in Dan.9:24
After the Messiah was cut off at the end of the 69 sevens, the Lord put that last seven years on hold, deferring it to the end of the age and at that time began building the church, which is still in progress. Once the church has been completed, the Lord will appear and gather the church taking them back to the Father's house in fulfillment of John 14:1-3.
Following that, the ruler that antichrist, will establish that covenant with Israel initiating that last seven years. From this point God will pick up right where He left off with Israel complete with a temple, sacrifices and offerings in fulfillment of that last seven years.
RainRIder..... God panned ,foresaw all the possible outcomes before we ever got here. When Man fell, he was ashamed of his new body. therefore he covered it with leafs. God came along and give them animal skins for covering. Thereby telling me that because Man has sinned, innocent animal blood will have to be shed to cover man's sins.
Israel as a nation has been blinded until the fullness of the Church comes in.... Blinded to the point that they (with a few exceptions) do not believe that Jesus Christ was the Messiah Nagid. they did not know of his coming into Jerusalem yet the people had been told about it, 300 years before. Jesus tells us this is why they were and still are blinded. If they were not blinded there would not be any Judaism left.
If you look to Isaiah 28:14-18, you will see that they make the covenant (Daniel 9:27) in order to entice the Messiah to come down from heaven and take care of the Hoard of killers just beyond the city limits. The animal sacrifices are needed in their mind to bring down the Messiah. But God tells them that they made the wrong decision (in better words than that lol) and that they will be swept away by the Scourge waiting them.
It is at this time, the Anti-Christ is probably killed with a head wound, resurrected by Jesus as Satan does not have those powers. Satan then most likely possesses the anti-christ and steps in the holy of holies of the temple. This when the people of Jerusalem need to run toward the mountains as fast as they can.
In 70 AD the roman army was there for around 18 months before they assaulted the city.. The Christians had plenty of time for them to leave as there was no hurry... Also,,,nobody from outside the city was told not to come into the city. There is a big difference. It is our future and those who do not believe in it will be left behind....and believe me , from the colorful words of revelation, it will not be nice to be left behind.
I can't believe what folks are writing, even the man who created the false pre-trib rapture realized that as long as the church age exists the Jews could NEVER build a Temple of God. Think people! God created Temple worship and animal sacrifices in order to prepare people for the ultimate sacrifice, Jesus Christ. Jesus came and completed that sacrifice around 33ad that ended Temple worship and animal sacrifice. The people actually continued to use the Temple until God Himself destroyed it in 70ad, today, and while the church remains on the earth THE TEMPLE OF GOD IS THE CHURCH. God did away with Temples made by human hands and established the church as the Temple of God...so how could someone say that the Jews are going to build a Temple of God? Also, we are talking about Christ rejecting Jews headed for hell, they cannot build a Temple of God, period. Even if they were able to build a copy of the Temple of God it could NEVER be the Temple of God.
AhhhhhH.... No, it does not bother believers at all. We are simply waiting for either the Rapture to take us to Heaven or Death where we will await our bodies resurrection.
You see for the Pre-tribers, the Rapture is secondary to our love and Faith for our King, Jesus Christ. Jesus charged us to be looking (watching) for his return in the Clouds where he would take us to heaven only after resurrecting the bodies of the dead in Christ. It is of no consequence to us to wait a little longer if need be. The results will be the same....
It bothers believers
just like it bothered Daniel
a lot of lives will be lost
and you are not bothered by that
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It is so sad that you call God a liar time and time again. Rem. His WORD is His Name. So Sad
Because Israel is under a different dispensation, another program separate from the church, which is made up of both Jew and Gentile. The nation Israel did not receive Jesus as their Messiah and the last seven years of the decree of seventy sevens must be fulfilled. As I continue to make known to you, God is going to pick up right where left off with Israel once the church has been removed from the earth.
why don't you understand God's plan?