Creation of Man

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I think we could say that Jesus' body was created, while he himself is without beginning. That's the great mystery of God, ie, the marriage of divine and flesh

Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation: Colossians 1:15​
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And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. 1 Timothy 3:16​
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And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth. John 1:14​
 
alright everyone, that's why i said "maybe" because i didn't know. i haven't read in to that in a while but it came back to me thru the postings above. thank you all.
 
Why Adam and Eve were not the first people created. Let’s start with Genesis 1:26. And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. Verse 27. So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. (How did God create them? Male and female at the same time not the man first and then the woman from his rib “DNA”). Verse 28. And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. This has nothing to do with Adam and Eve. What does chapter 2 verse 1 say. Thus the heavens and the earth were finished and all the host of them. (Host in the Strong’s concordance means a host of people or an army of people as ready to go to war.)
 
It was pointed out in a word study of repentance that its first occurrence was in Genesis 3:19, "unto dust shalt thou return," and just now only entering "dust" into the search bar at BibleHub, I especially noted the second verse retrieved after Genesis 18:27, where Abraham acknowledges his awareness that he is 'but dust and ashes,' is 1Cor15:47, "The first man was of dust of the earth; the second man is of heaven."
...and my mind is blown in awe, and I lost the point I meant to make by this finding. :unsure:

Maybe if I go back and reread the flow of the thread, the thought will come back around...

Oh yes! It occurred to me that Jesus had no need for repentance!

Just let that sink in.:coffee:
 
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KeithAB said:
Why Adam and Eve were not the first people created. Let’s start with Genesis 1:26. And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. Verse 27. So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. (How did God create them? Male and female at the same time not the man first and then the woman from his rib “DNA”). Verse 28. And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. This has nothing to do with Adam and Eve. What does chapter 2 verse 1 say. Thus the heavens and the earth were finished and all the host of them. (Host in the Strong’s concordance means a host of people or an army of people as ready to go to war.)
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"The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation" Colossians 1:15

'So it is written: “The first man Adam became a living being”; the last Adam a life-giving spirit.' 1 Corinthians 15:45

"The first man was of the dust of the earth, the second man from heaven." verse 47.

So no, there was no human being created prior to Adam and Eve.

'And Adam named his wife Eve, because she would be the mother of all the living.' Genesis 3:20

Eve could not be the mother of all the living people if there were people prior to her being formed from Adam's rib. So your claim is incorrect.
 
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Reason 2 that Adam and Eve were not, are not, and cannot be the first people created.
What happened on the 7th day?
God rested from all His work. God blessed all His work including the people male and female that He created on the 6th day. How do we know this?
Genesis 2. 5 But there went up . . . and THERE WAS NOT A MAN TO TILL THE GROUND.
God had not made a man on the 6th day to till the ground. God had not yet created a farmer. from that host of people in 2:1 there was no farmer, no one to till the ground. What does God do.
Verse 6. But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground. Verse 7. And the Lord God formed man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and the man became a living soul.
In Verses 8-15 God gives Adam a garden to tend, he becomes a farmer and live off the land.
Verse 16. And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, "Of ever tree in the garden thou mayest freely eat: 17. but the tree of the knowledge of good and evil thou shall not eat of it for the day that thou eatest of it: for in the day that thou eatest there of you shall surly die.
Verse 18. And the Lord God said "it is not good that the man should live alone; I will make an help meet for him".
You should know the rest Adam has all the animals come by him and he gives them all names; but he does not find one that is suitable for himself. God puts him in a deep sleep takes the one of his ribs, (ribs in the Hebrew means curve, so God took his D.N.A. and made the woman, Eve because she is flesh of my flesh and bone of my bone.
Then we will close with Verse 24&25. 24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and Mother and cleave unto his wife: and the two shall become one flesh. 25. And they were both naked the man and his wife, and they were not ashamed.
This hole 2nd chapter shows why Adam and eve were not created on the first day and were not the first couple God made. He formed Adam out of the clay of the ground, and then made Eve out of his DNA, the Helix curve.
Keith
 
Mem said:
It was pointed out in a word study of repentance that its first occurrence was in Genesis 3:19, "unto dust shalt thou return," and just now only entering "dust" into the search bar at BibleHub, I especially noted the second verse retrieved after Genesis 18:27, where Abraham acknowledges his awareness that he is 'but dust and ashes,' is 1Cor15:47, "The first man was of dust of the earth; the second man is of heaven."
...and my mind is blown in awe, and I lost the point I meant to make by this finding. :unsure:

Maybe if I go back and reread the flow of the thread, the thought will come back around...

Oh yes! It occurred to me that Jesus had no need for repentance!

Just let that sink in.:coffee:
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Adam and Eve were put here on earth so that through her (Eve) would come the savior Jesus Christ. Read her linage in the gospels.
 
KeithAB said:
I never said that Jesus had need of repentance
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My attempted point was that He wasn't made from the dust of the earth as Adam had been. "The second man is of heaven." Eve's lineage, or hereditary DNA is, at least indirectly, made of the dust of the earth without any part "of heaven." Can you post the context of the passage that reveals "her lineage"?
 
Gideon300 said:
"The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation" Colossians 1:15

'So it is written: “The first man Adam became a living being”; the last Adam a life-giving spirit.' 1 Corinthians 15:45

"The first man was of the dust of the earth, the second man from heaven." verse 47.

So no, there was no human being created prior to Adam and Eve.

'And Adam named his wife Eve, because she would be the mother of all the living.' Genesis 3:20

Eve could not be the mother of all the living people if there were people prior to her being formed from Adam's rib. So your claim is incorrect.
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Gideon300 said:
"The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation" Colossians 1:15

'So it is written: “The first man Adam became a living being”; the last Adam a life-giving spirit.' 1 Corinthians 15:45

"The first man was of the dust of the earth, the second man from heaven." verse 47.

So no, there was no human being created prior to Adam and Eve.

'And Adam named his wife Eve, because she would be the mother of all the living.' Genesis 3:20

Eve could not be the mother of all the living people if there were people prior to her being formed from Adam's rib. So your claim is incorrect.
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Gideon 300 Eve is the mother of all living because it is thru her that Jesus would be born into the world to become our salvation. If it were not for this none of us would be living today; we would be spiritually dead without hope of redemption. There is a direct line from Mary to Abraham to
 
KeithAB said:
Gideon 300 Eve is the mother of all living because it is thru her that Jesus would be born into the world to become our salvation. If it were not for this none of us would be living today; we would be spiritually dead without hope of redemption. There is a direct line from Mary to Abraham to
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I see the term 'living' in the phrase 'mother of all living' as meaning spiritually alive (saved), so I appreciate that you are approaching this in your statement here. I see Adam as a picture of Christ and Eve as a picture of all true believers (Christ's spouse). To me, she was called the 'mother of all living' because the Jerusalem above is said to be the mother of all true believers (Galatians4:26). "But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all. " Since all true believers are Christ's spouse, they are described as the Jerusalem which is free, which is above. They are the mother of all which live spiritually in Christ. Eve was made from action taken upon Adam's side. Christ was pierced on his side at the cross, which was the way all true believers were created, by Christ's work at the cross.
 
KeithAB said:
Gideon 300 Eve is the mother of all living because it is thru her that Jesus would be born into the world to become our salvation. If it were not for this none of us would be living today; we would be spiritually dead without hope of redemption. There is a direct line from Mary to Abraham to
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If you read all the scriptures I quoted, you will find that Adam was indeed the first man. That's the only point I was making. You could say that Adam was a type of Christ. Without Adam, there would have been no Eve and no people. So again, I reject the notion that there were people created prior to Adam.
 
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If as you say Adam and Eve were the first people God created, I have a few questions.
#1. Adam and Eve's first children were twins Cane and Able. Cane kills Able and God bans Able from this home and makes him a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth. Able is afraid he will be killed God puts a mark on him so people will know if they kill him God will bring vengeance on them 7-fold. Able goes to the land of Nod gets a wife has a child builds a city and names it Enoch after his first borne son. Just where did all these people come from for Able to find a wife, have enough people to build a city for. Adam was 130 years old when He had his next son Seth.
#2 We go back to day 6 of Genesis chapter 1. 27So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. 28And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
Here God created both man and woman at the same time. He told them to go replenish the earth (repopulate it) Just how could this have been Adam and Eve; why repopulate or replenish the earth with people? Were there people on the earth before this? Then you come to chapter 2 verse 1. Thus, the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. This word host means a mass of people like an army ready to go to war. In this case the mas of people were to go and repopulate the earth.
I have many more questions like this, I can ask you them if you would like.
Keith
 
KeithAB said:
Where Adam and Eve the first people eve created?
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No. There are several passages plus physical evidence that disproves the evolutionary theory that man evolved from a single set of biological progenitors.

1. Cain being driven to the land of Nod where found a wife.
2. "And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,.." Gen 6:1
3. The genetic diversity of humans species.
 
UnoiAmarah said:
No. There are several passages plus physical evidence that disproves the evolutionary theory that man evolved from a single set of biological progenitors.

1. Cain being driven to the land of Nod where found a wife.
2. "And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them," Gen 6:1
3. The genetic diversity of humans species.
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I agree with you 100%, all the races were created on the 6th day when God said, "Let us make man in our image let them be male and female." The us there were the angles, and the souls of everyone that will pass through this earth age. You can find this in Job chapter 38 to 41 which is the end of the book. God comes to Job in the whirlwind in the first verse of chapter 38 and starts asking Job (and us) questions; Verse 7. When the morning stars sang together and ALL the sons of God sang together and all the sons of God shouted for joy. Every soul that would ever pass through this earth age, every angelic being that God created was there at this point in time.
This would not include Adam and Eve they were created by God for a very special reason; they would become the parents of the line through which Jesus would come.
 
The garden of eden i believe. The bible doesnt say they moved to eden, so God must of created them in eden.
 
KeithAB said:
You can find this in Job chapter 38 to 41 which is the end of the book. God comes to Job in the whirlwind in the first verse of chapter 38 and starts asking Job (and us) questions;
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That is a interesting perception. I read it as the LORD interceding on behalf of Job by asking him "Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge?" referring unto Elihu. (And he saw that there was no man, and wondered that there was no intercessor: therefore his arm brought salvation unto him; and his righteousness, it sustained him. Isa 59:16) Then proceeds to say unto Elihu "Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee, and answer thou me." As the whirlwind passeth, so is the wicked no more: but the righteous is an everlasting foundation. Prov 10:25 And nothing more is mention of Elihu afterwards.
 
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