Covid 19

[PennEd]

Yes, of course. What I meant is that you have nothing to lose by taking preacautions: mask, social distance, etc.

I lost my best friend to this disease. She did not lose her money or her job. She lost her LIFE.

I know of at least two who have lost their lives because of the lockdowns through suicides.

In fact, there have been studies that state more have died from suicide, lack of medical care, domestic abuse, etc... than the virus.

Why don’t their lives matter?

Not to mention the insanely bad harm being done to the children through isolation and mask wearing.

 

[mailmandan]

What I suspected all along.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/chinese-virologist-government-intentionally-coronavirus

 

[shittim]

You can believe her, she is risking her life for truth. China shutdown travel in and out of Wuhan at the beginning, but not international travel, to spread it around the world.
Dr. Phony Fauci began this 'gain of function" research years ago and was warned by scientists around the world not to do it. He also funneled millions of U.S. tax dollars to labs in Wuhan to work on this.
Scripture speaks of "pestilences" in these last of the last days, plural. Other labs in the Wuhan area have been discovered and are doing similar work.

What this virus can't do as it is not very virulent, is being enhanced by the media spreading fear.

 

[Darvid]

I cant take it seriously when the uk govermant say keep 2 metres apart no grouping together when down the road in pubs and restaurants there are groups like peas in a pod with no distancing and who's to say none of them have the covid and then spread it.if i had covid i would still mingle and go to work and eould not let the goverment tell me that i cant.its all.scaremongering. if you mingle with sick people you may have a 50-50 chance of hetting it.as christions its better to die thsn stay in this world i think

 

[JaumeJ]

I know of at least two who have lost their lives because of the lockdowns through suicides.

In fact, there have been studies that state more have died from suicide, lack of medical care, domestic abuse, etc... than the virus.

Why don’t their lives matter?

Not to mention the insanely bad harm being done to the children through isolation and mask wearing.

When covid19 first hit Europe and the US back in March strong, I heard someone suggest that elderly people should volunteer to die being a kind of humane duty to others.
No one yet has taken into consideration, at least not publicly that the elderly who died in the first waves were mostly already sickly and in homes, concentrated, something like concentration camps but not intentionally.
Usually there were smaller numbers of the emplyees who contracted the same bug but survived.
Apparently it was assumed that elderly folks generated and infected others with this disease; poppy cock!
Perhaps many wanted the elderly to die, but to me it smacks of Auschqitz........ You tell me. I know I would not have my family nor others put in such a situation.. They were not hospitalized, not massively at least.,

 

[JaumeJ]

I cant take it seriously when the uk govermant say keep 2 metres apart no grouping together when down the road in pubs and restaurants there are groups like peas in a pod with no distancing and who's to say none of them have the covid and then spread it.if i had covid i would still mingle and go to work and eould not let the goverment tell me that i cant.its all.scaremongering. if you mingle with sick people you may have a 50-50 chance of hetting it.as christions its better to die thsn stay in this world i think

This type of irresponsibility is also pandemic. All we can do is our best not to possibly contract from others, or worse yet, possibly infect others. Stay in as much as possible, be well, praise God, and all will be just fine.

 

[Ann-Marie]

In case u misunderstood i said i have friends who have lost friends (LIVES) Young people who had their whole lives ahead of them
This idea that everyone must sacrifice their jobs, their careers, their savings, their homes, their livelihoods, etc is one of the most selfish things i've ever heard... Homelessness is worse than death

We all live in different parts of the world and have had different experiences. Over here i still don't know anyone that has had covid yet everyone i know has been damaged by these lockdown restrictions...

No one can do anything until our state has a daily average of under 5 cases for 2 weeks, which is near impossible. Only then will we be able to visit friends or travel more than 5km from home. Only then will curfew be lifted and only then will some of us finally be able to try and find a job...

But most lockdowns will remain and only get lifted once the whole country has had no new cases for 2 weeks... You will probably try to justify these restrictions which are the toughest and longest in the world but u don't have any idea unless u were here.

Your seriously comparing the Spanish flu to covid... Ok...
The 1917 Spanish flu killed over 50 million people... Covid has killed less than 1 million
Covid just kills the elderly... 1917 killed everyone including the healthiest of people in their 20s and 30s
Spanish flu never caused any government to close down... Covid has caused many countries to close down unlike ever befor

Well that why i made a deal with one of my mates. If the covid vaccine doesn't get forced/blackmailed then i will admit that my pessimism was wrong but if they do force/blackmail the covid vaccine then he will admit that his optimism was wrong.

Both of us are willing to admit we were wrong and we created a way to measure the truth by drawing this line in the sand...

So i ask, are you willing to admit you were wrong if these covid vaccines are forced/blackmailed?

Of course, I will admit I was wrong and btw, I did not know you lost a friend to this disease. I must have been reading too fast. Sorry for your loss. As to the only the old die, it is true in most cases, but the young who have underlying health conditions also die. ALSO, when anyone dies no matter how old they are, there is usually a family who has lost a loved one (regardless of their age ... they are loved) and whp are grieving. So it's the families as well who suffer.

Younger people get it and now there is new evidence that there may be long lasting damage to organs which may cause problems in the future.

I compared this Pandemic to the Pandemic of 2017 (which lasted 4 years), because the WHO has done this. They way we learn about anything is by what preceded it. So, always wise to look and learn. 1917 was the last PANdemic ... and now the one of 2019.

I think enough people will be willing to take the shot so that no one need be forced. They will, of course, benefit from the immunity that those who take the shot ... as they do in all other cases.

 

[JaumeJ]

Which would you say is worse, to be homeless due to the pandemic or to be homeless and neglected during times of prosperity. I ask because I have seen many people living under bridges in parks since the 1970"s all across the US
People used to thnk being a bag lady in the 70s was something to quip about. I will not speak of my own experience pre-military and post. It is never easy especially with no family support.

When people said, no more welfare but let the churches take care of the poor like they used to, well I am old enough, and I know ther churches did not nor do they now,. Granted many churches help as much as they are given to be able, but curches to this day do not take care of all the needy...................

 

[PennEd]

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[PennEd]

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10157991495783462&set=a.51767338461&type=3

Can someone with decent computer skills make this picture appear without clicking on it?

 

[Ann-Marie]

Can someone with decent computer skills make this picture appear without clicking on it?

 

[Ann-Marie]

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@PennEd, I fail to see the humor in this. People are DYING. Families are mourning.
You do know that in this illness you suffocate to death?
You and your wife are prime candidates and I would think that you would take precautions and really be as prolife as you say you are.
This goes not just for you, but for all who think that this is somehow funny.

Anyone who says they are prolife, and who cannot even wear a mask, is not prolife.

 

[EleventhHour]

Of course, I will admit I was wrong and btw, I did not know you lost a friend to this disease. I must have been reading too fast. Sorry for your loss. As to the only the old die, it is true in most cases, but the young who have underlying health conditions also die. ALSO, when anyone dies no matter how old they are, there is usually a family who has lost a loved one (regardless of their age ... they are loved) and whp are grieving. So it's the families as well who suffer.

Younger people get it and now there is new evidence that there may be long lasting damage to organs which may cause problems in the future.

I compared this Pandemic to the Pandemic of 2017 (which lasted 4 years), because the WHO has done this. They way we learn about anything is by what preceded it. So, always wise to look and learn. 1917 was the last PANdemic ... and now the one of 2019.

I think enough people will be willing to take the shot so that no one need be forced. They will, of course, benefit from the immunity that those who take the shot ... as they do in all other cases.

1917 was the last PANdemic

That would be incorrect there have been several pandemics since 1917. SARS CoV - 1 in 2003 was a pandemic along with others. Ebola etc.,

They were however very different viruses and more virulent, with however shorter incubation periods therefore easier to contain.
There were lockdowns in 2003 in North America as well, however different virus and contained.

This virus has a long incubation period as well it is not as respiratory in nature but is more blood based hence the attack on the organs.

And mental health has been deteriorating in western society for a long time prior to Covid -19.

 

[bojack]

I saw this... Surprised to see it on mainstream media even though it's FOX... Many people have said the same thing but been ignored
The inquiry that is being led by the UN started by looking for the zoological origin of covid. That is a huge presumption

It seems that she is neatly laying all the blame on China CCP while diverting any responsibility from Soros, Gates and Fauci .. The US is by far the largest and most valuable consumer market on earth .. The worlds ''golden goose''

 

[shittim]

I believe more and more we are experiencing the Great End Times Deception, yes the Communist Chinese Weaponized Virus is real, yes they released it intentionally to knock America and other economic powers out of competition and take over world dominance.
We know fear of "getting" a disease or condition increases the likelihood by 63% according to the science of neural plasticity, the devil and his minions know this as well and fear has been a huge component in this last of the last days deception.

 

[EleventhHour]

We know fear of "getting" a disease or condition increases the likelihood by 63% according to the science of neural plasticity, the devil and his minions know this as well and fear has been a huge component in this last of the last days deception.

Okay... do you have research to back this up?

You did give me chuckle LOL

 

[EleventhHour]

@PennEd, I fail to see the humor in this. People are DYING. Families are mourning.
You do know that in this illness you suffocate to death?
You and your wife are prime candidates and I would think that you would take precautions and really be as prolife as you say you are.
This goes not just for you, but for all who think that this is somehow funny.

Anyone who says they are prolife, and who cannot even wear a mask, is not prolife.

Well, I guess Brazil learned that lesson.

 

[Ann-Marie]

I know of at least two who have lost their lives because of the lockdowns through suicides.

In fact, there have been studies that state more have died from suicide, lack of medical care, domestic abuse, etc... than the virus.

Why don’t their lives matter?

Not to mention the insanely bad harm being done to the children through isolation and mask wearing.

I never said their lives don't matter. Every life matters and that is my point. Children wearing a mask does not harm them. They are isolated more than they have been, but I see them out playing every day.
They carry this disease, and it would be awful if they unknowingly brought it home to mom or dad (if they are high risk) or to grandma/grandpa .. . and the list goes on.

Wearing a mask and social distancing (not isolating) is a small price to pay to save lives UNTIL we have a vaccine, which is expected by 2021 (or 12 to 18 months into all of this).

As to the studies about suicide,
you would need to show specifically who/what/when/where and why.
you would have to show that these suicides were directly caused by Covid fear.

Lack of medical care?
I live in a high risk, densely populated area and medical care is always available.
The only thing held back was elective surgery that could wait and I have a friend who had her elective surgery as soon as the numbers went down. My husband and I have access to our doctors and our dentists and we live in a large City.

Yes, domestic abuse has gone up.
And even for this, there are things that can be done. There are places women can go. Places to calls & ways to bring abuse down. check local domestic violence centers for this information. I dont have the time to elaborate.

In sum: some of us believe this whole thing is real and other beieve it is a hoax to bring our country down, to infuence the next Presidential election, to make money, etc.
Time will tell whether these fears are true or not.

AT THE END OF THE DAY:
If I don't take precautions, and someone is harmed, I cannot take it back.
If I do take precautions and somehow I have helped someone, I have done the right thing.

 

[PennEd]

@PennEd, I fail to see the humor in this. People are DYING. Families are mourning.
You do know that in this illness you suffocate to death?
You and your wife are prime candidates and I would think that you would take precautions and really be as prolife as you say you are.
This goes not just for you, but for all who think that this is somehow funny.

Anyone who says they are prolife, and who cannot even wear a mask, is not prolife.

You have the audacity to try and denigrate me over this!!

Just who the heck do you think you are!!!?

Look at that damn meme again, and see the truth in it!

Come look in the eyes of the children wearing these ridiculous masks, as they can’t go to school, associate with their friends and are bombarded with this garbage affecting their psyche.

LOOK at the TRUTH of that meme AGAIN!!

How dare you!!!

I put that meme as a way to express how utterly, nauseatingly sick I am over this bs!

You are infringing on mine, and my family’s life and freedoms.

I don’t in the tinsiest way find that humorous!

You go isolate YOURSELF is you want to live in fear.

 

[JaumeJ]

Is this below what you wanted?