covid -19 vaccine effectiveness according to W.H.O.

[Cameron143]

Most people on this forum are anti-x but the numbers don't support their arguments.
The majority of the world's population has had at least one dose so if the vaccine is as deadly as they claim, you would expect to see a lot more casualties
The odds of the vaccine killing you are actually astronomically low

As are the odds from dying from covid unless you are in a group that is compromised.

 

[Dude653]

Well....likely it wasn't actually the virus itself...it was the resulting damage of bodily systems the virus destroyed...

I've known several that have died or are severely disabled because of this virus...one of which is my father-in-law who is on permanent disability instead of going to work every day.

Yeah that's why I made the decision to get vaccinated because I'm not trying to die or be disabled

 

[kaylagrl]

If the vaccine is so deadly why haven't I died or gotten covid? Been vaxxed 4 times now including the valent booster.

I've been exposed to covid too.

That's the truth.

So either you guys are wrong or I'm going to die.

I had two friends that were vaxxed and boosted, both died of COVID.

 

[ZNP]

Vaccine mandates have always been a thing for school.
If my child can't bring a peanut butter sandwich at school because someone not have a peanut allergy then why should your child be allowed to bring a preventable disease to school?

To bring a different lunch is not an apples to apples comparison with making my kid take a vaccine that kills him, and it is undeniable that many kids have been killed as a result of the vaccine mandate.

 

[Billyd]

I had two friends that were vaxxed and boosted, both died of COVID.

I have many friends who were vaxxed and boosted who didn't die from covid19. My wife and I were vaxxed and got covid19, got boosted and got covid19 again. First time I got very sick. Second time she got very sick. We're both in our 80s, both in the extremely high risk group, but were never hospitalized.

I'll be honest with all of you. I'm glad that we live outside of the city, and live in FL. We were isolated from the world of the sick during the worst part of the pandemic. We also do not have any side effects from the vaccinations.

 

[JohnDB]

I had two friends that were vaxxed and boosted, both died of COVID.

I'm sorry to hear that....
I've lost several myself.
Some due to getting caught up in antivaxx propaganda and others just because they didn't have much of an immune system to start with. One was the husband of someone who was an outspoken antivaxxer in my church...she got left behind as two beautiful gradeschool girls. He was much younger than me...his brother is in my Sunday school class. (He was leading one in the children's program)
Lots of people have died or been disabled....others have died or been disabled because the whole Healthcare system has been overwhelmed.

It's a global pandemic. No vaccine is a force field of protection, especially when a virus mutates. There's so many variants now that none of them are going to provide great protection as they initially did. The Beta and Delta variants have done a real number on the population.

But there's others that there are no antibodies or vaccines for...even the antivirals are worthless against them.

Valley fever is making a comeback (fungal infection of respiratory systems)

Influenza is back with a bang as well as RSV. They are calling it a tripledemic.

Every pandemic lasts a minimum of 5 years. Influenza came out during WW1....notice how it still is rampant?

Covid-19 is NOT a pulmonary system virus like Influenza. It is an endocrine system virus....meaning that the next generation is going to be vastly reduced and possibly genetically damaged.

 

[swatfrog]

Most people on this forum are anti-x but the numbers don't support their arguments.
The majority of the world's population has had at least one dose so if the vaccine is as deadly as they claim, you would expect to see a lot more casualties
The odds of the vaccine killing you are actually astronomically low

new video call dying suddenly....not for children, shows people from all over just falling over dead...https://stateofthenation.co/?p=146210

 

[Gojira]

The debate is over, the evidence is in.

You claim that what we are seeing with this astounding, apocalyptic spike in deaths among young 18-45 year olds is the result of having had Covid? If that is true we'll see these effects die out and by that I mean every year there will be fewer and fewer over the next decade.

The alternate claim is that the unprecedented "died suddenly" deaths as well as myocarditis and miscarriages and stunning drop in the birth rate is due to the vaccine. If that is true then we will see these numbers grow for at least the next few years and if they continue giving these booster shots each year these numbers will grow for the next decade.

Let each person be fully persuaded in their own mind. But know this, if you ignore the facts and the studies and the documentaries that have been released and continue to encourage others to get the vaccine, if it turns out that these documentaries are true you will bear some responsibility for those who get sick and die from the vaccine.

I'm inclined to agree with you on this one, especially since people under 30 were supposed to be the least-affected by this thing.

 

[Gojira]

I'm sorry... I know this thing has caused some damage. I believe that. But, I also think that its virulence was exaggerated by the media and the government. Some of us have those horror stories within our circles. I do not. Many others do not, either. Although one friend of mine knows of 4 people who killed themselves when their businesses went belly-up due to the lockdowns.

Anyway, I believe this is hysteria. People who are high-risk should take all precautions. When they asked me if my father should get the covid shot back in late 2020, I told them to administer it. But, he's 80 and pretty vulnerable. As for most of the rest of us, I think masks and multiple levels of boosters is to be shunned.

 

[Gojira]

1.5 % of 300 million is 4.5 million with no mitigation and probably much higher if hospitals are overwhelmed.

If the virus affected children I wonder if people would be so blase?

Seems the old and medically compromised or fragile is an okay group to have die.

Not sure how you read that from my post. My meaning is this; You don't shut down a society to protect one group of people. I'm sorry, you don't. I would not ask America to shut down for me if everyone was carrying something that I was vulnerable to. How could I be so narcissistic? So, what would I do? Protect myself as much as I could.

As for the death totals, the CDC admitted that there were... some inaccuracies in their reporting. And, hospitals got money for patients who died from Covid, so some people who died with covid but not of covid were listed as covid deaths. We really do not know what the death totals are, but I'm willing to be they're lower than what has been reported.

Either way, it is dangerous to some, and those folks should take all the precautions they feel they need to. As for me, not buying that this is some sort of airborne AIDS, which has a 100% kill rate, which is what the news media and government were making it sound like. Oh, an executive from CNN, via our friends at Project Veritas, got caught on camera saying that CNN pushed the death total narrative deliberately to scare their viewers because... if it bleeds, it leads, and ratings jump.

 

[ZNP]

The movie "Died Suddenly" is based on information that came out up to September 2022. You can be sure that although it has taken two months to produce this movie and release it that all the governments of the world are now aware of this. You can also be sure that embalmers around the world are watching this and sharing their own stories and advising their own governments on this.

Russia has claimed that they have evidence that the US developed the pandemic in bioweapons labs in Ukraine. They also claim they have the evidence.

I don't think the rest of the world will be too forgiving if they realize the pandemic and then the vaccine were designed to reduce the world's population.

The UN has divided the world into ten regions, so I wonder what the rulers of those ten regions will think about the US, the Great Babylon, who has deceived the whole world with the wine of her sorceries?

And the ten horns which thou sawest, and the beast, these shall hate the harlot, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and shall burn her utterly with fire.

 

[HeIsHere]

Not sure how you read that from my post. My meaning is this; You don't shut down a society to protect one group of people. I'm sorry, you don't. I would not ask America to shut down for me if everyone was carrying something that I was vulnerable to. How could I be so narcissistic? So, what would I do? Protect myself as much as I could.

As for the death totals, the CDC admitted that there were... some inaccuracies in their reporting. And, hospitals got money for patients who died from Covid, so some people who died with covid but not of covid were listed as covid deaths. We really do not know what the death totals are, but I'm willing to be they're lower than what has been reported.

Either way, it is dangerous to some, and those folks should take all the precautions they feel they need to. As for me, not buying that this is some sort of airborne AIDS, which has a 100% kill rate, which is what the news media and government were making it sound like. Oh, an executive from CNN, via our friends at Project Veritas, got caught on camera saying that CNN pushed the death total narrative deliberately to scare their viewers because... if it bleeds, it leads, and ratings jump.

Well I am not interested in media spin and the various biases.

There are many people who have heart problems, may be over weight, diabetes who still have jobs and are contributing members of society so if they are the more vulnerable, does the government allow them to stay home but who fills their jobs as paramedics, teachers, nurses, shift workers, various other service providers.

Tell me how does government respond? I am talking prior to vaccines before the less virulent strains.

 

[ZNP]

Well I am not interested in media spin and the various biases.

There are many people who have heart problems, may be over weight, diabetes who still have jobs and are contributing members of society so if they are the more vulnerable, does the government allow them to stay home but who fills their jobs as paramedics, teachers, nurses, shift workers, various other service providers.

Tell me how does government respond? I am talking prior to vaccines before the less virulent strains.

There is a quick and easy way to develop herd immunity. This was not Ebola with a greater than 50% death rate. I am talking about something that has less than 1% death rate and primarily for people with comorbidities and the elderly.

So I am not suggesting that anyone who is high risk do this, but the idea behind herd immunity is that if 80% of the people are immune it makes it difficult for the virus to spread.

So we are really talking about young healthy people from 0 to 45. I was a teacher, you get the students to come to school but not enter the building, instead we walk around the track for about an hour and then go home and do that for the entire 400 students and 40 teachers. What this will do is expose you to the virus but in a very small dose and a weakened dose. As we know the sunlight destroys the virus in about fifteen minutes and the wind will disperse the virus so you will get exposed to a very small, weakened dose. Do this for one week and then resume normal activities the following monday. The kids can get credit for PE and you can count three of these days as "snow days". So you only miss two days of school, but 5 credits of PE equals one day, so you are only missing one day of school. Once school resumes you don't let anyone in the building with a fever. During the week off you sanitize the entire building.

This would work for cops, schools, colleges, the military, etc. Other businesses could have done the same thing. Costco could pay employees to come in for one hour and walk around the parking lot.

This is not some theoretical hokum. Remember all those rallies that were supposed to be "superspreader" events but weren't? They were outdoors. People were standing next to each other for hours. As a result they were all exposed but with a weakened dose and a very small dose. That is why those "red states" did so much better than the blue states.

The elderly and infirm could avoid crowded areas and do their shopping online.

However, you will still have people getting sick. For them they take HCQ the minute they feel like they are coming down with something. It works for any viral infection.

You also recommend that everyone take Quercetin, Zinc and Vitamin D to boost immune system response to a viral infection.

If despite all this they get sick enough to need a doctor you have Ivermectin.

 

[HeIsHere]

There is a quick and easy way to develop herd immunity. This was not Ebola with a greater than 50% death rate. I am talking about something that has less than 1% death rate and primarily for people with comorbidities and the elderly.

So I am not suggesting that anyone who is high risk do this, but the idea behind herd immunity is that if 80% of the people are immune it makes it difficult for the virus to spread.

So we are really talking about young healthy people from 0 to 45. I was a teacher, you get the students to come to school but not enter the building, instead we walk around the track for about an hour and then go home and do that for the entire 400 students and 40 teachers. What this will do is expose you to the virus but in a very small dose and a weakened dose. As we know the sunlight destroys the virus in about fifteen minutes and the wind will disperse the virus so you will get exposed to a very small, weakened dose. Do this for one week and then resume normal activities the following monday. The kids can get credit for PE and you can count three of these days as "snow days". So you only miss two days of school, but 5 credits of PE equals one day, so you are only missing one day of school. Once school resumes you don't let anyone in the building with a fever. During the week off you sanitize the entire building.

This would work for cops, schools, colleges, the military, etc. Other businesses could have done the same thing. Costco could pay employees to come in for one hour and walk around the parking lot.

This is not some theoretical hokum. Remember all those rallies that were supposed to be "superspreader" events but weren't? They were outdoors. People were standing next to each other for hours. As a result they were all exposed but with a weakened dose and a very small dose. That is why those "red states" did so much better than the blue states.

The elderly and infirm could avoid crowded areas and do their shopping online.

However, you will still have people getting sick. For them they take HCQ the minute they feel like they are coming down with something. It works for any viral infection.

You also recommend that everyone take Quercetin, Zinc and Vitamin D to boost immune system response to a viral infection.

If despite all this they get sick enough to need a doctor you have Ivermectin.

Being exposed in small doses like they did for polio prior to the vaccine is an idea.

I think this would be a challenge due to the massive amount of coordination required, it would be impossible to control for all the variables.

The other challenge is immunity seems to wane whether from the actual virus or from a vaccine, so this would be a constant state of affairs.

 

[SoulSearcher]

The movie "Died Suddenly" is based on information that came out up to September 2022. You can be sure that although it has taken two months to produce this movie and release it that all the governments of the world are now aware of this. You can also be sure that embalmers around the world are watching this and sharing their own stories and advising their own governments on this.

Russia has claimed that they have evidence that the US developed the pandemic in bioweapons labs in Ukraine. They also claim they have the evidence.

I don't think the rest of the world will be too forgiving if they realize the pandemic and then the vaccine were designed to reduce the world's population.

The UN has divided the world into ten regions, so I wonder what the rulers of those ten regions will think about the US, the Great Babylon, who has deceived the whole world with the wine of her sorceries?

And the ten horns which thou sawest, and the beast, these shall hate the harlot, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and shall burn her utterly with fire.

Thankyou for posting this

 

[HopeinHim4ever]

With what I have said above firmly in mind.....I know of lots of people who became antivaxxers for the Mrna vaccines and they have ALL paid a heavy price with Long Covid symptoms from their multiple infections.
Kidney damage, loss of cognitive function, liver damage, lung damage and general endocrine system damage which includes things like their immune systems becoming completely destroyed causing all sorts of auto-immune disorders.

So...alive but permanently disabled or getting vaccinated wasn't much of a choice. Believe rumor and innuendo from the internet or a 12 layer system of reporting where everyone gets rewarded for being a whistle-blower and yet the vaccine made it through successfully.

I believe in facts and Occam's razor...Not innuendo and scare tactics originated by nations still angry and upset about Tamiflu hoarding from 10 years ago and general politics.

The media and the gov't are the ones I think are the ones using the scare tactics.

 

[swatfrog]

heres the vax efficacy straight from the big "P" good for a laugh
https://choiceclips.whatfinger.com/2022/12/15/russel-brand-youre-not-going-to-like-this/

 

[ZNP]

China is a shining example of what happens when you take the pandemic serious, vaccinate everyone and lock it down the minute you detect anyone who tests positive.

 

[ZNP]