Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

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cv5

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That is the most conservative estimate. Always depends on what metric you are using. But I don't think anyone can deny it has been at least 20%.

I prefer to simply use gold as a metric and by that standard it has been 50%.
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JayBird

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Ask anyone who has lived in a socialist/communist country, they'll fill you in. She left of Bernie, and the whole country knows how radical he is, the Dems kneecapped him because they knew he couldn't win as president.

I'll take that as an admission that you can't point to anything communist Harris is promising to do either.


Come on, stop being obtuse again. No one knew anything about her as a potential candidate. She word salad-ed her way through three years. All we know is she like yellow school buses and venn diagrams and she laughs like a hyena.
If that's truly all you know, that's your issue.


I really do hope and pray that Americans that are playing stupid and are ignoring this lawyer fair junk the Dems have drummed up to keep Trump out of office, face the same thing under the Dems if they get in. That they are charged for crimes they didn't commit and see how they like it.
Watching Christians be this unquestioningly loyal to hedonistic, immoral sinner like Trump is probably one of the weirdest things I've ever seen. I'd bet money that if I offered to walk through the evidence that led a jury to convict him, you would refuse to even discuss it, probably because you're not aware of most of it.


That's just blind loyalty to a man, something Christians aren't supposed to do.
 

JayBird

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The Russia, Russia, Russia hoax.

In reality, there were over 100 contacts between the Trump campaign and Russian operatives. Don Jr even bragged about it, remember?

https://www.politico.com/story/2017...setting-up-meeting-with-russian-lawyer-240402

The Jan 6th hoax, the Covid hoax, the sanctuary city hoax, Hunter laptop hoax, one after the other and they tell us we're crazy and we've been right every stinkin' time!
Yet not one of you can prove a single bit of any of it in any court in the country. Normally, that should tell you something.
 

ResidentAlien

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Watching Christians be this unquestioningly loyal to hedonistic, immoral sinner like Trump is probably one of the weirdest things I've ever seen.
That's because Christianity itself is in one of the weirdest places it's ever been. A lot of changes had to take place within Christianity before someone like Trump as President could seem like a good idea; and it didn't happen overnight. You should check out the documentary Bad Faith. https://tubitv.com/movies/100020971/bad-faith
 

cv5

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Watching Christians be this unquestioningly loyal to treasonous, hedonistic, immoral sinner like HARRIS is probably one of the weirdest things I've ever seen.
Fixed it for you.
Just to let you know, defending Harris is frankly indefensible.
 

JayBird

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That's because Christianity itself is in one of the weirdest places it's ever been. A lot of changes had to take place within Christianity before someone like Trump as President could seem like a good idea; and it didn't happen overnight. You should check out the documentary Bad Faith. https://tubitv.com/movies/100020971/bad-faith
Thanks, I'll check it out.

What's really sad is how few even notice that the merging of Christianity with Trump and all he brings (white supremacists, Alex Jones, militias) has coincided with the largest drop in Americans who think of themselves as "Christian" in history. The last poll I saw showed that white evangelical Protestants are now outnumbered by the "nones" (people with no religion).

Basically as Trump is falling, he's dragging Christianity down with him.
 

cv5

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Hey @JayBird buddy.

So tell us: how are the economic and social conditions in NYC doing?
Better than ever with the vast influx of new guests?

Or a state of emergency, rampant crime, chaos and collapse?
 

cv5

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Thanks, I'll check it out.

What's really sad is how few even notice that the merging of Christianity with Trump and all he brings (white supremacists, Alex Jones, militias) has coincided with the largest drop in Americans who think of themselves as "Christian" in history. The last poll I saw showed that white evangelical Protestants are now outnumbered by the "nones" (people with no religion).

Basically as Trump is falling, he's dragging Christianity down with him.
Hey buddy. Can you provide any evidence whatsoever that Kamala is a Christian?
We already know that she is a Marxist, so I think it unlikely that you can.
 

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Trump continues his debate prep hinting that he may aim to "destroy Kamala" in the debate. Trump already as he points out destroyed Biden in the first debate so thoroughly that the democrats had to embarassingly resign him and flaunt democracy by foisting Kamala upon us. Can Trump actually do it and go full force and tread Jezebel into the streets in one triumphant go? This debate is going to be hype, all the world will be watching.
 

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The argument I hear most is Trump hasn't done anything wrong; it's all a big witch hunt. Okay, let's assume it is. But if something came to light beyond any shadow of a doubt; 100% positive he's caught with his hand in the cookie jar. Would this be enough for you or would you still find a way to rationalize it and say he did no wrong?
Of course! But even if he crosses that line, I'm still not voting for Harris. I would just not vote.
To me, the Democrats crossed that line a long time ago when they started celebrating abortions and legalized gay marriage. I remember hearing Obama speak on it when he was president. He said an abortion is a woman's right but it's always a difficult thing to go through. So there were some feelings of guilt or disturbance there for him. Now they are straight up having abortions at the DNC. They celebrate it. That's disgusting and pure evil.
 

cv5

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Collin Rugg on X: "REPORT: 20% of mail-in ballots were fraudulent in the 2020 election according to a study conducted by the Heartland Institute. The study was referenced by Donald Trump over the weekend who received backlash for making the claim. According to the Heartland Institute’s Justin https://t.co/KBBgHAn40U" / X

REPORT: 20% of mail-in ballots were fraudulent in the 2020 election according to a study conducted by the Heartland Institute.

The study was referenced by Donald Trump over the weekend who received backlash for making the claim.

According to the Heartland Institute’s Justin Haskins, 1-in-5 people *admitted* to committing voter fraud in the 2020 election, many not even realizing they were committing fraud.

21% of respondents said they filled out a ballot on behalf of someone else.

17% admitted they voted in a state where they were no longer a permanent resident.

10% said they knew someone who filled out a ballot in a state that was not their permanent residence.

8% said they were paid or offered a reward for filling out a ballot in the 2020 election.

“The results of these survey questions appear to show that voter fraud was widespread in the 2020 election, especially among those who cast mail-in ballots,” the poll determined.
 

JayBird

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Of course! But even if he crosses that line, I'm still not voting for Harris. I would just not vote.
I can't give my vote to a terribly immoral and hedonistic man like Trump, with his greed, extreme love of money, adultery, fornication, etc.

Far better to write my own name in than to give my vote to such a person.
 

Noel25

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I can't give my vote to a terribly immoral and hedonistic man like Trump, with his greed, extreme love of money, adultery, fornication, etc.

Far better to write my own name in than to give my vote to such a person.
That's cool man! You do you.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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In reality, there were over 100 contacts between the Trump campaign and Russian operatives.
It was a lie!!! Russia hoax, debunked! Take the talking points somewhere else.



.Yet not one of you can prove a single bit of any of it in any court in the country. Normally, that should tell you something.
Dude, have you been under a rock?? All this junk has been debunked. smh
 

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I can't give my vote to a terribly immoral and hedonistic man like Trump, with his greed, extreme love of money, adultery, fornication, etc.

Far better to write my own name in than to give my vote to such a person.
Who would you vote for?
 

cv5

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Nor is it Kammy, who is the opposite of those things. Plus a lot worse.
Trump is very much electable. Even more so now that his team has fleshed out.

On the other hand there may never be, (nor has there ever been) a ticket more unelectable then Kamala/Walz.

My question is: how could it NOT be unlawful to be a communist running for high office in America?