Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

[ZNP]

The verses are not at all clear that the Antichrist negotiates peace, it could be that he simply takes credit for the peace. His proclamation of "peace and security" does not in any way say it is a peace treaty in the middle east, that is an inference without any Biblical verse that you can clearly hang that on.

What is clear is that the proclamation of peace and security is a lie, and it is also clear that the Jews will rebuild the temple in the beginning of the 70th week (seven year period) and that Antichrist will stop the offerings and set himself up in that temple.

Daniel 9:27 Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week;

The word for confirm is not the word for make. Also there are many ways that Israel can be referenced, "the many" is not one of them.

But in the middle of the week He shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering.

Because of this they assume the covenant gave Israel the right to rebuild the temple, but it doesn't say that, it is simply an assumption without any real Biblical basis.

It is a very common theory in eschatology so you may think you are being "orthodox" but it doesn't say that the Antichrist made the covenant, and it doesn't say that the Covenant was with Israel. It does say the covenant is for 7 years. Who makes a peace treaty for seven years? Also why would Israel agree to a seven year covenant for the temple? That also does not make any sense. Especially with Agenda 2030, a covenant that was made in the UN (the many) back in 2015, and is going to be confirmed and strengthened this September during the Feast of Trumpets. Not only so but this covenant, the architect is King Charles, a person with overwhelming Biblical evidence that he is the antichrist. Also, the way they are going to strengthen the covenant is directly tied to the mark of the beast. They want everyone using a digital currency tied to biometrics so they can track everything you buy and sell and if you are violating their 17 conditions they will shut off your ability to buy and sell.

 

[ZNP]

Daniel 9:27 Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week;

The word for confirm is not the word for make. Also there are many ways that Israel can be referenced, "the many" is not one of them.

But in the middle of the week He shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering.

Because of this they assume the covenant gave Israel the right to rebuild the temple, but it doesn't say that, it is simply an assumption without any real Biblical basis.

It is a very common theory in eschatology so you may think you are being "orthodox" but it doesn't say that the Antichrist made the covenant, and it doesn't say that the Covenant was with Israel. It does say the covenant is for 7 years. Who makes a peace treaty for seven years? Also why would Israel agree to a seven year covenant for the temple? That also does not make any sense. Especially with Agenda 2030, a covenant that was made in the UN (the many) back in 2015, and is going to be confirmed and strengthened this September during the Feast of Trumpets. Not only so but this covenant, the architect is King Charles, a person with overwhelming Biblical evidence that he is the antichrist. Also, the way they are going to strengthen the covenant is directly tied to the mark of the beast. They want everyone using a digital currency tied to biometrics so they can track everything you buy and sell and if you are violating their 17 conditions they will shut off your ability to buy and sell.

You might argue that the Tribulation cannot start this September because they are supposed to rebuild the temple at the beginning of the tribulation so that Antichrist can set himself up in the temple in the middle of the tribulation. However, they have 4 Red heifers that have been certified and are ready to be sacrificed prior to Passover so that they can begin the rebuilding. Also some are suggesting that Israel has the tabernacle and will erect that this Passover.

 

[ZNP]

You might argue that the Tribulation cannot start this September because they are supposed to rebuild the temple at the beginning of the tribulation so that Antichrist can set himself up in the temple in the middle of the tribulation. However, they have 4 Red heifers that have been certified and are ready to be sacrificed prior to Passover so that they can begin the rebuilding. Also some are suggesting that Israel has the tabernacle and will erect that this Passover.

Granted you might argue what about the ten kings aren't they supposed to rise prior to the mark of the Beast? Well in August BRICS is planning to add five more countries making that ten and will be able to then dethrone King dollar.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

Let me posit this question:

Everyone would like to see peace between the Arabs and Israelis. Trump has made moves in that direction, which many here applaud. When he wins in '24 (and he WILL win), if trump brokers such a peace will you applaud that?

OK, now go study what scripture says about the person who does finally achieve that peace.

Are you still going to applaud trump bringing that peace, at the price of ignoring what scripture says about it?

People told me Obama was the anti-Christ, I flat out told them that was not so. If you're hinting in that direction, you're wrong. The anti-Christ is going to have special powers, he will bring world peace, not just the middle east. People need to be careful of accusing everyone of being the anti- Christ. To the world it looks like we are calling wolf when there is none there.

 

[ZNP]

People told me Obama was the anti-Christ, I flat out told them that was not so. If you're hinting in that direction, you're wrong. The anti-Christ is going to have special powers, he will bring world peace, not just the middle east. People need to be careful of accusing everyone of being the anti- Christ. To the world it looks like we are calling wolf when there is none there.

There are many counterfeit Christs. Obama is not "the" antichrist but a very strong case can be made that he is the rider on the white horse of the apocalypse.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

I'm not assuming, that's why I asked.

I'll just say it: Putting someone in office solely on the basis of they are the enemy of my enemy is very immature and shortsighted.

It's utterly annoying, immature and shortsighted that anyone who supports Trump is doing so for this reason.

Granted, the Democrat party leaves a lot to be desired

If that isn't the understatement of the century !!!

The only way I'd vote for someone is if I thought they were qualified for the office,

Well he's more than proved that!!

or because they promise to be a "savior."

Baloney, he proved what a non career politician can do for a country. It's common sense.

No human being can solve all the world's ills;

No, but apparently one can start them, just ask Joe and his crime family.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

because 97% of the members here are not either Republicans or anti Democrats
.

If you claim to be a Christian you better be anti- Democrat. You don't have to be Republican, but you sure can't support Dems and say you're a Christian.

To answer your last point, there are other parties that the people conveniently ignore which is why we are stuck with the 2 party nonsense.

What other party can you vote that will make even a dent compared to the two parties? Tell me one where your vote will count for anything and not boost one of the two parties?!

 

[JTB]

People told me Obama was the anti-Christ, I flat out told them that was not so. If you're hinting in that direction, you're wrong. The anti-Christ is going to have special powers, he will bring world peace, not just the middle east. People need to be careful of accusing everyone of being the anti- Christ. To the world it looks like we are calling wolf when there is none there.

True dat.

I never pegged trump as the antichrist, but as a stepping stone in that direction (as were Obummer Clinton the Bushes et al). But consider this:

Any one of the issues that trump is going thru would have been politically fatal to anyone else, but they just make him stronger. What does the Bible say about someone who suffers a seemingly fatal blow, only to rise to power out of it?

Going on vacay! Be gone for a while (please hold your applause )

 

[seed_time_harvest]

IMO,Donald Trump Is receiving some kind of dEmonic spiritual help.

 

[Cameron143]

IMO,Donald Trump Is receiving some kind of dEmonic spiritual help.

Do you believe that about any Democrats?

 

[Socreta93]

If you claim to be a Christian you better be anti- Democrat. You don't have to be Republican, but you sure can't support Dems and say you're a Christian.



What other party can you vote that will make even a dent compared to the two parties? Tell me one where your vote will count for anything and not boost one of the two parties?!

thats a problem with the system since all we'll do is just vote for people we don't like since we feel those are our "only choices". That's why I'm in favor of a ranked choice voting system. It would be an improvement. We would get rid of the "throwing your vote away" argument at the very least. People should vote for candidates they actually believe in. A lot of Americans vote in fear of the other candidate, rather than supporting the candidate they actually want.

 

[ResidentAlien]

IMO,Donald Trump Is receiving some kind of dEmonic spiritual help.

I never really thought about it but you may be right. It goes without saying most politicians have demonic help; but Trump seems to be getting more than his fair share.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

thats a problem with the system since all we'll do is just vote for people we don't like since we feel those are our "only choices". That's why I'm in favor of a ranked choice voting system. It would be an improvement. We would get rid of the "throwing your vote away" argument at the very least. People should vote for candidates they actually believe in. A lot of Americans vote in fear of the other candidate, rather than supporting the candidate they actually want.

We had, I suppose they still have, other parties to vote for. I think there are several. Though I don't think they have ever won nationally, it does give people a lot broader choice.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

Do you believe that about any Democrats?

We're in the tinfoil hat territory again...

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

IMO,Donald Trump Is receiving some kind of dEmonic spiritual help.

Get real. smh

 

[ResidentAlien]

That's why I'm in favor of a ranked choice voting system.

Would that replace the electoral college? If so, what would it do to ensure fair representation?

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

True dat.

I never pegged trump as the antichrist, but as a stepping stone in that direction (as were Obummer Clinton the Bushes et al). But consider this:

Any one of the issues that trump is going thru would have been politically fatal to anyone else, but they just make him stronger. What does the Bible say about someone who suffers a seemingly fatal blow, only to rise to power out of it?

Going on vacay! Be gone for a while (please hold your applause )

Me too, going to Destin FL, can't hardly wait. But it will be end of next month. So if y'all have any tips or places to view, hit me up. I love the ocean. Hope you enjoy your trip wherever you go!

I believe the anti-Christ will die, fatal blow, and rise again. So if Trump spits out a bullet and keeps walkin' I'll owe you an apology.

 

[Cameron143]

We're in the tinfoil hat territory again...

I ask because a house divided cannot stand.

 

[ZNP]

I never really thought about it but you may be right. It goes without saying most politicians have demonic help; but Trump seems to be getting more than his fair share.

I'm not familiar with that compensation program for politicians, what is the fair share of demonic help that each is supposed to get?

 

[seed_time_harvest]

Do you believe that about any Democrats?

So far I haven’t seen any Democrat saying and doing the type of things o v e r and o v e r and o v e r that Trump does and get away o v e r and o v e r again unscathed.I think that that angers the democrats the most.