Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

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Nehemiah6

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Under Biden the border is practically wide open...
It goes well beyond that. The border has been HANDED OVER TO THE DRUG CARTELS and migrant invaders from all around the world (including China). This is literally an INVASION of America with migrants, gangsters, criminals, drug traffickers, human traffickers, and terrorists. Prisoners from other countries are being released in order to invade America through its wide open border. And guess what? The Border Patrol is colluding with the invaders and cutting fences in order to let them in. And the numbers are into the tens of millions. And they will be invading every town and city until the USA has been rendered into another third world banana republic.

Camo-Wearing Migrants Captured in Arizona Desert near Border
https://www.breitbart.com/border/20...rants-captured-in-arizona-desert-near-border/

Now is there any nation in the world that would literally destroy its own national security for absolutely no reason? But the Biden gangsters have done it, and the Special Forces and Marines have stood by while their country was deliberately invaded and subverted.

Could the border states have prevented this? Absolutely. But they did not give Trump 100% cooperation, and Trump himself failed to handle the erection of the border WALL (not fence) properly and quickly as he promised to do.

Now the Leftist mayors of American cities are complaining about this invasion, but they did not oppose this policy of an open border right from the get go. Billions of tax dollars are being spent on the migrant invaders who are getting the most royal treatment imaginable, while the ordinary citizens suffers.
 

JTB

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I appreciate your earnest response and honesty. And you can continue to believe as you do. But outside of this site the results are the same for me. And you should check the sources you posted. I can tell you from past experience, those last 3 pictures were by liberals.
I would be shocked if you followed through that far. But if you do, I would love to know the results.
And I'm particularly appreciative that even though we have differing views, our discourse has been civil.
I couldn't care less if a source is liberal or conservative. Truth is the truth regardless of where it comes from. And the truth is, there are far too many 'Christians' embracing trump as their savior, and following him away from God's ways. Maybe I see it more than you do because it is more prevalent in my environs, and it concerns me GREATLY when my brothers and sisters are led astray by false prophets (and that includes a lot more than just trump).

And I do try to keep it civil, another issue we have these days is the idea that if we disagree I have to hate you. That's as bad as anything else going on.

Keep the faith!
 

JTB

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Biden has done more to further the cause of transforming the United States into a Godless, borderless, marxist, socialist, disarmed, Sodom and Gomorrah America under Satan than any President in my lifetime.
Balderdash. That is the cumulative result of many liberal leaders. It isn't owned by just the current one.
 

JTB

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Warning!

As of late many of the threads in this forum have degraded into nasty mannered mud slinging contests and as a result a couple of them have been closed in the past couple of days because there has been no individual user that has been the sole offender, just a topic that got heated and progressively the bar got lowered.

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But regardless, there is no excuse for calling a brother or sister in Christ a Democrat!
I'm curious, are you a moderator here?
 

JTB

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That is you and them, there is a remnant that will not.:)(y):unsure::giggle:
Once again....

Mammon worship, cheating workers, self idolatry, abandoning the poor sick and foreign, and embracing lies and hypocrisy are not Christian values. trump and his magas embody all of these

The fruit of the Holy Spirit are love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. trump and his magas embody none of these

WHO is being deceived? Certainly isn't me. I'm the voice of one in the desert calling out the warning.
 

Cameron143

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Once again....

Mammon worship, cheating workers, self idolatry, abandoning the poor sick and foreign, and embracing lies and hypocrisy are not Christian values. trump and his magas embody all of these

The fruit of the Holy Spirit are love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. trump and his magas embody none of these

WHO is being deceived? Certainly isn't me. I'm the voice of one in the desert calling out the warning.
Plenty of people went to the desert to hear truth.
 

NightTwister

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Apparently you haven't compared his works with scripture
Sure I have. He did more to slow down abortion than any other President. He did more to increase and protect religious freedom than any other President. Those are just two examples.
 

Nehemiah6

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I couldn't care less if a source is liberal or conservative. Truth is the truth regardless of where it comes from.
When does truth ever come from the Left? Another delusional position which sounds good but has no reality. The fact is that there are several good conservative sources of truthful reporting which are generally being ignored. FOX News has gone down the drain because they rejected the truth and embraced the lies.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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I couldn't care less if a source is liberal or conservative. Truth is the truth regardless of where it comes from. And the truth is, there are far too many 'Christians' embracing trump as their savior,
This is just a cop out, I'm so sick of hearing this. And it's usually said by people who voted for Biden. It comes down to two candidates, you have one to choose. I don't know how anyone can call themselves Christian and vote for Dems. Surely RA, as high on his horse as he has always been, did not vote for Biden, surely not.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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Sure I have. He did more to slow down abortion than any other President. He did more to increase and protect religious freedom than any other President. Those are just two examples.

Stood by Israel, stood by parents trying to keep their children from being indoctrinated in schools, brought back the prayer breakfast, said that America IS a Christian nation (unlike Obama), he proclaimed a National Day of Prayer!! Could you ever believe Biden/Clinton/Obama would do any of that? He also pushed back the rising tide of socialist/communism trying to gain hold in this country.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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Once again....

Mammon worship,

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One, just one of Joe's homes. And I can go way back with presidents here. So I guess they are all into "mammon worship" huh?!

cheating workers,
No one is nailing it to the workers more than Joe. People can't afford to buy a home and they can't find a place to rent. The price of second hand vehicles is through the roof. We're paying twice what we use to for gas, food and heat. And jobs aren't paying more, that's for blasted sure. smh On top of that we have a wide open border that's going to make everything increasingly worse as homes need to be available to them, and healthcare and jobs. If anyone is cheating workers, it's Joe Biden.

self idolatry,
You apparently have never heard Biden talk about himself and his family. smh


abandoning the poor sick and foreign,
This is utter baloney. More than any other country in the world, except Israel, America is there to help. First on the scene in disasters, giving billions to countries that hate us. America has more outreach for the sick and poor around the world than any other, stats back that up.



and embracing lies and hypocrisy are not Christian values.
Nobody lies more than Biden. Nobody. He lied about his son, about the laptop. He's lied about how his wife died.He lied and said he was head of the class when he was the bottom. He lied and said he was a truck driver, that he was jailed for protesting. Just about every time the man opens his mouth, he lies. He utterly denies his grandchild, lies and says he has 6 when DNA proves that wrong. He backs his son 100% and don't tell me they don't know who put coke in the WH. And whistle blowers are coming out now and revealing more of his lies.Nothing more hypocritical than denying your own family because you don't like who your drugged out son slept with. smh


trump and his magas embody all of these
So you're saying anyone who votes for Trump does all these things ( mammon worship, cheating workers, self idolatry, abandoning the poor sick and foreign, and embracing lies and hypocrisy) how incredibly arrogant and self righteous of you!!


The fruit of the Holy Spirit are love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. trump and his magas embody none of these
Wow, you really are sticking to that self righteousness and arrogance! Why a nasty and judgmental comment! You're exactly what you accuse others of being. smh




WHO is being deceived? Certainly isn't me. I'm the voice of one in the desert calling out the warning.
Oh so now you're John the Baptist?! Talk about self idolatry. Wow! You and RA should start a club together, the High Horse club. Unreal.
 

Socreta93

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Are people afraid to give an actual answer here? Just name things you don't like and if Trump does it then you stop supporting him. It's that simple and applies to every single person and anyone they politically support.