Paul wrote to Timothy. Paul was a Jew. He's part of the many and the all. Timothy was raised by a Jewish mother, but his father was Gentile, but Timothy was a believer, and he too is part of the all and the many. All or many, both are true. Would you settle for some? How about an exact number? Maybe "other sheep." How about God so loved the world? Whosoever?
Contradiction?
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Keep believing that nonsense......and make no mistake about it....it is nonsense!!
If your telling me that scripture does not distinguish between a Jew and a gentile, before the mystery was revealed, per scripture in complete clarity....I would respectfully disagree.
Truthfully, using these terms to distinguish between 2 gospels, later to become 1, is not easy to convey to someone who is not willing to at least, take some time, and compare all scripture....Paul’s revelation of the mystery vs the gospel of the Kingdom (Matthew, Luke, Mark and John) we all seem to preach the cross and Christ crucified, so we have that together, amen
Well of course there's Jew and Gentile before the gospel. The mystery is the two would become one through Jesus Christ. But all and many are not identifiers, they are too broad or narrow to be categorized under the mystery. In and of themselves carry no meaning, whereas Jew and Gentile do.
I’m merely reading through scripture from Paul, and comparing it in fullness to the gospel of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John....it has become quite apparent that Paul’s epistles confirm the gospels but are specific to the gentiles, as the mystery is revealed for the first time....showing grace through faith, without works, for the first time
I am not sure what your problem is with what I have said. Only those who believe are saved. You seem to be splitting hairs.
Perhaps that is because there is only one Gospel. At first communicated in shadows and types the later plainly through the atoning work of Jesus Christ.
I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting him who called you in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— not that there is another one, but there are some who trouble you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed.
(Gal 1:6-8)
And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so must the Son of Man be lifted up,
(Joh 3:14)
And taking the twelve, he said to them, “See, we are going up to Jerusalem, and everything that is written about the Son of Man by the prophets will be accomplished. For he will be delivered over to the Gentiles and will be mocked and shamefully treated and spit upon. And after flogging him, they will kill him, and on the third day he will rise.”
(Luk 18:31-33)
Long ago, at many times and in many ways, God spoke to our fathers by the prophets, but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed the heir of all things, through whom also he created the world.
(Heb 1:1-2)
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God desires all to believe but even so many don’t.
The sacrifice many don’t believe it was so.
two gospels? two means of salvation?
IS God a God of confusion?
I have never seen the bible contradict itself.
IS God a God of confusion?
I have never seen the bible contradict itself.
context is the foundation of bible study.
........the scripture says........"there is no God"......
wait...........in context it actually says......THE FOOL SAYS IN HIS HEART THERE IS NO GOD.
BIG DIFFERENCE
........the scripture says........"there is no God"......
wait...........in context it actually says......THE FOOL SAYS IN HIS HEART THERE IS NO GOD.
BIG DIFFERENCE
Gospel simply meaning “the good word”
Yes, I believe there were different Gospels for different people (Jew, gentile, priests, etc) today, we have closure on one gospel pertaining to all of us, Jew or gentile, circumcised or uncircumcised
ForestGreenCook with his 3 abused texts of Scripture promoting his hyper Calvinist false gospel. 1 Corinthians 2:14 is taken completely out of its context, and he teaches that if a person simply believes in anything spiritual it means they're regenerate and on their way to heaven. Yep. Even if they've never heard of Christ or his Gospel.
Did you all know that you don't need to believe the Gospel and you still have eternal life? That's right folks, belief in his gospel only provides temporary deliverance in this world so never mind what 1 Corinthians 1:21 says, he can twist that right into a hyper Calvinist pretzel for you. Yep, the salvation in that verse? It's only a little deliverance here on earth, it doesn't save the soul.
So, concerning the Gospel? Take it or leave it, it doesn't matter one bit concerning whether you go to heaven or not. Missionaries? Wasting their time!
Another gem in his teaching is you can also live your life on the broad road to destruction; as long as you are elect yet don't believe the Gospel, don't accept Christ? It's all good, you're still going to heaven!
So, you can live like the devil, reject the Gospel, not believe in Christ, but as long as you believe spiritual things, you're in! 1 Corinthians 2:14 proves it! Isn't that wonderful? The Primitive Baptists call this teaching of theirs "attractive" and it sure is -- to the carnal.
Nor will it...ever.....there is one means of salvation, all others are fraudulent and lead to hell!
Both O.T. saints were saved by grace through faith looking forward to the blood sacrifice and the N.T. saints look back by grace through faith to the blood sacrifice.....no such thing as different gospels for different people...!
Who is it that you say I have deserted? Jesus Christ? How could that be? Did those that listen to Moses, desert God? Of course not....To tell anyone, that they have deserted Jesus Christ, because they follow Christ’s word, as it pertains to them, and follows his word through an apostle in which Jesus sent to him, as our apostle......is outright ridiculous
He nailed you. What is ridiculous is how blind you are in your 2 gospels heresy. Your moniker betrays your teachings.