Condemned why?

[Magenta]

Calvinistic theology is false.

We have a choice in our salvation for God's kingdom is true love.

If we do not make a choice in our salvation then it is robotic love which is not true love and God is not evil to condemn people who have no choice but to reject the truth.

Rom 4:17 (As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were.

Eph 1:5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,
Eph 1:6 To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.

Rev 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

Luk 11:50 That the blood of all the prophets, which was shed from the foundation of the world, may be required of this generation.

God calls things that have not happened yet as though they happened for if it is a plan of Him to happen in the future it is the same as if it happened in the beginning for it will surely come to pass with no hinderance.

Predestined to salvation does not mean God chooses who will be saved or not but it means He had the plan to give mankind salvation in the beginning but this salvation is to whoever wants it.

1Ti 2:3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;
1Ti 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

God wants all people to be saved and come to the truth.

Act 17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent.

2Pe 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

God does not want anyone to perish but wants all people to come to repentance.

If Calvinism is true why is God commanding all people to repent.

Rev 22:17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.

Any person can have that salvation.

It is sad Calvinists are not on board with that.

Mat 22:14 For many are called, but few are chosen.

1Co 12:3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.

Joh 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

1Co 12:3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.

If Calvinism is true why is God calling people and not choosing them for if Calvinism is true all He would call would be saved.

God will call us according to our heart condition to work with us to get the truth and when we get to the door of truth we have to choose to walk through it for His kingdom is true love but we would of not got to the door of truth if He did not intervene in our life.

2Ti 3:4 lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
2Ti 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
2Ti 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

These people did not walk through the door of truth and enjoy worldly pleasures.

Have you been here before? You remind me of 2 previously banned members. I asked one of those 2 guys if he was the other person and he refused to answer ... in fact he left the site for a little while after that probably because he didn't want to get caught, since it is against the rules to come back under a new name after you have been banned. Also you contradict yourself a lot in your above post. You claim man is free but then also assert what the Bible does which is that God must intervene ... so that is a contradiction, since man cannot just choose to believe without God first drawing that person. In fact Scripture says that the natural man can neither receive nor comprehend the spiritual things of God and that the gospel message is foolishness to him ... he is blinded to the truth of the gospel, is a slave to sin and a lover of darkness, refusing to come into the light because his deeds are evil... in fact he is defined as darkness itself, and does not know God. He is under the power and influence of the evil one just like the rest of the world which we have been called out of ... The truth of what the Bible teaches is that it is Jesus who sets us free and I really have to wonder why people argue against that.

 

[homwardbound]

Me too, and everyone including atheists are totally dependent on God,
including for the MFW that is allows them to ignore Him..

God knows all and sees all
God saw me in belief to his love and mercy from day one in my birth. God saw I would accept, yet keeping me to the free choose to not accept and still sin ignorantly as I did the same with Saul, Aho became Paul.
A story, that happened to me. I was an alcoholic back then over 40 years ago now. God had a willing vessel, my wife now. That told her, to hand me her paycheck and trust for me to use it right.
She did that, I was floored, she did not tell me at that time God told her to do that. I went almost immediately across the street and got a six-pack of beer and put it on the counter and pulled out my wallet to pay for it.
I saw her money in my wallet and left the six-pack there, little later I saw why I was an alcoholic, heard this from God within me. You are and have been an alcoholic, because you have not accepted your youngest sister as dead. I saw that as truth immediately. Stood up in that party I was presently in then, And openly admitted to my alcoholism, been dry ever since once admitted and accepted this truth God gave me to see

My Sister died on an overdose, she was 18, I was 14, that is when troubles began in me after I chose belief to God at age 12 first. I was delivered lost in the woods, delivered out of the woods by God. at age 12. I read in the Bible afterwords about Peter, when Jesus said to Peter, Satan wishes to sift you like wheat, I prayed for you. when you return, you will be able to strengthen the brethren. I Took this read personally and knew I was being told this personally. Also in Matthew about being disabled to have sex, I saw that happening to me before it happened. Yet never over focused on it, and then it did happened, amputated my penis gone from Foreigners Gang Green
And given a new way to pea. Over 12 years ago now, thanks to God using Doctor Jeremy Meyers, which paved the way fro many others to be saved though this amazing surgery, that kept me alive and no having to use a colostomy anymore. Now using Catheters.
I see, not at first to accept this happening to me. Yet now sifted like wheat by evil, to get me into stinking thinking over it. I learned No thanks from, because God is good all the time as good is God all the time
Love to all from God for us all to choose to believe God or not, no matter what happens to our flesh bodies thanks

 

[homwardbound]

Calvinistic theology is false.

We have a choice in our salvation for God's kingdom is true love.

If we do not make a choice in our salvation then it is robotic love which is not true love and God is not evil to condemn people who have no choice but to reject the truth.

Rom 4:17 (As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were.

Eph 1:5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,
Eph 1:6 To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.

Rev 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

Luk 11:50 That the blood of all the prophets, which was shed from the foundation of the world, may be required of this generation.

God calls things that have not happened yet as though they happened for if it is a plan of Him to happen in the future it is the same as if it happened in the beginning for it will surely come to pass with no hinderance.

Predestined to salvation does not mean God chooses who will be saved or not but it means He had the plan to give mankind salvation in the beginning but this salvation is to whoever wants it.

1Ti 2:3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;
1Ti 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

God wants all people to be saved and come to the truth.

Act 17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent.

2Pe 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

God does not want anyone to perish but wants all people to come to repentance.

If Calvinism is true why is God commanding all people to repent.

Rev 22:17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.

Any person can have that salvation.

It is sad Calvinists are not on board with that.

Mat 22:14 For many are called, but few are chosen.

1Co 12:3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.

Joh 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

1Co 12:3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.

If Calvinism is true why is God calling people and not choosing them for if Calvinism is true all He would call would be saved.

God will call us according to our heart condition to work with us to get the truth and when we get to the door of truth we have to choose to walk through it for His kingdom is true love but we would of not got to the door of truth if He did not intervene in our life.

2Ti 3:4 lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
2Ti 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
2Ti 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

These people did not walk through the door of truth and enjoy worldly pleasures.

I, see God calls us all through Son, first in getting forgiven, reconciled by God through Son's done work for all at that cross first. Confirmed in Acts 1 to me and in 1 John 2: 1-12, then see 1John 2-27 2 Cor 5:16-20
then Pentecost that is still happening daily I see for the next one to believe God or still remain man flesh trying to do what want to do right, and can't, not perfectly ever. the flesh is independent on self being Independent of God, not seeing to only trust Daddy, PaPa, Father in risen Son only for them to be made new by God for them too as born again as revealed in John 3 to Nicodemus and many other places to be revealed by God Father in risen Son only.
It is not about me or anything I do or not do. It is about Son is risen where new life in God Father given in Spirit and truth to love all and not try to do, what is given you to do. One does new in love e and mercy too to all, not a few as did first, in that first birth
Thank you