So speaks the ignorant one.
Hahahaha this is hilarious coming from you.......
So speaks the ignorant one.
So now you are a computer expert.Hahahaha this is hilarious coming from you.......
Come on do we know all that there is to know about this update. Is the owner doing it ,or is the site hosted . Could the host site have technicians that are doing the work ? To offer up speculation without knowledge is foolish . Oh about experience there is a zoo in California that has a elephant that has been painting for 42 years . The elephant still ain’t no good .So now you are a computer expert.
ROFL
You are now claiming to be a computer expert. Try again foolish one. I spelnt 40 years working with them. Go fly a kite.
Dcon and I have some issues. I was responding to them because of his ridicule. Did you bother to read his post against me. I lived with computers and software for 40 years.Come on do we know all that there is to know about this update. Is the owner doing it ,or is the site hosted . Could the host site have technicians that are doing the work ? To offer up speculation without knowledge is foolish . Oh about experience there is a zoo in California that has a elephant that has been painting for 42 years . The elephant still ain’t no good .
Blessings Bill
Right! So the question arises; why is it taking so long?This kind of change means the servers being upgraded are required to be off line. Rolling the upgrade software only takes relatively short time.
If done properly notification should be given automatically to every one on line a short time prior to shut down of how many minutes till it happens simultaneously stopping all logins. Been there, done that.Right! So the question arises; why is it taking so long?
More than likely a volunteer is doing it and being that the site is functional it is not at the top of their list of things to do.
I am sure the next time the site is off line it will be done. Incidentally if any one is posting a reply at the moment the site is taken off line due to the upgrade; their posts will be lost. Hence the warning at the top of the page....
One will not see any notification if their intention is in their writing their post. Whether it be via a pm, a new thread or a new header.If done properly notification should be given automatically to every one on line a short time prior to shut down of how many minutes till it happens simultaneously stopping all logins. Been there, done that.
I was talking about the shutdown of the server being updated. It is not done with an online computer unless it is a Unix machine that has a kernal for that purpose. Even then they normally take it offline. Software is being overwritten with the new software and could cause problems if a file is executed in the middle of its update. There is a procedure that is sometime used. The new software is written into different directories and when complete the server temporarily pauses the software and quickly changes the names of the directories and deletes the old directories after verifying everything is running correctly. The delete is done manually. If there is a problem then the server is paused and the new and old directories swap names and the server the uses the old software and the new is deleted. This almost never happens.One will not see any notification if their intention is in their writing their post. Whether it be via a pm, a new thread or a new header.
Been there done that.
Oh horrors If one of mine was lost I would have a hissy fit. You wouldn't want to see that.It isn't the end of the world of some posts on a web chat-forum are lost. I think we'll all survive with no loss of salvation. It isn't worth complaining about.
They changed its color once. Who knows what they are doing?? Confusion remains Supreme.Maybe they just forgot to take down the notice.
Data should be kept in seperate directories. The backup of those directories should be rolled on last after the testing is done and restore any lost data. Using the command that adds data to existing data will accomplish that. I have used those commands in UNIX, the DEC OSs, RT, DOS, RSX, and VMS and PC DOS and Windows. 40 years of working with computers.I have been a hardware tech, & the first thing that's always done is to back up everything. Then add the update. It usually has to be cold-booted when starting back up, so yeah, a shutdown is a must.
Some things to be considered:
1. A copy of the original system can be updated & replace the old one.
2. Some systems are manually updated by hand to keep it compatible. (programming changes)
3. System has to be run & debugged before fully replacing the old one. During that time, the new system may be brought online several times to prove it. This is where losses of data can occur.
The color change may have been on a timer . I have done mod work on a forum before. All our notices were on a timer to stay red for a set period. Then would turn blue after a set limit was passed. That may be what happened here .They changed its color once. Who knows what they are doing?? Confusion remains Supreme.
The problem is it only takes a few hours at night to do it Leaving it up so long to me is idiotic since people are getting a wrong idea of how long it takes.The color change may have been on a timer . I have done mod work on a forum before. All our notices were on a timer to stay red for a set period. Then would turn blue after a set limit was passed. That may be what happened here .
Blessings
Bill
What I have is a copy (what I call my test bed) of my online website running on my own computer complete with Apache server running from the server root ip 127.0.0.1
I can make code/programming changes to various files in a php editor, alter the look of the forum etc.
After I'm satisfied that the modification(s) work and do not affect the operation of other parts of the forum, I then upload those changes to the online forum files.
This way the down time when the board is offline is reduced to a minimum:
After the change from HTTP to HTTPS there was an issue with posting youtube videos:
I used the PHP editor to modify this area of the class_parser file:
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I then saved the changes "on the fly" without shutting the forum down.