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ZNP

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Let's make something very clear, this ice storm in the South does not in any way mean that Climate change is a hoax or that the powers that be have been lying to you.

On the other hand the fires in LA prove we have a problem with climate change. Cutting off the water from the North, not having water in the hydrants, and a few weird photos of houses burned to the ground while the trees and grass are fine are not proof of anything.

First of all, if the climate isn't changing how do you explain the Ocean rising? In the last 100 years sea level has risen at least 6 inches.

Second of all, climate change is good for the economy. Now that DEI employees are all getting fired the only job they will be qualified to get will be pushing the Green New Deal. The reason we know that the science is solid on this is because the biggest proponents for us to spend trillions on the Green New Deal is a former waitress from Brooklyn and a few Hollywood actors. Does it look like a scam when the people telling you to stop burning fossil fuel are flying in private airplanes and own fancy yachts? Sure, that's not a good look, but ignore that. It's like that saying "don't look at what they do just obey what they say".
 
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On the other hand the fires in LA prove we have a problem with climate change. Cutting off the water from the North, not having water in the hydrants, and a few weird photos of houses burned to the ground while the trees and grass are fine are not proof of anything.
It proves there's a problem with CA government. The reservoir next to the Palisades, less than 1000 yards away, was empty for over a year due to maintenance. The mayor of LA flew to Africa right after warning was given of imminent fire threat rather than mobilize fire fighting efforts.
 
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Last year I think we passed 1.5 C of warming for six months.

Probably still above 1.5 degrees this year also.

How much will the temperature drop as La Nina kicks in?

This is what nobody knows.
BS. It hasn't warmed significantly for something like the past 20 years
 
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Let's make something very clear, this ice storm in the South does not in any way mean that Climate change is a hoax or that the powers that be have been lying to you.

On the other hand the fires in LA prove we have a problem with climate change. Cutting off the water from the North, not having water in the hydrants, and a few weird photos of houses burned to the ground while the trees and grass are fine are not proof of anything.

First of all, if the climate isn't changing how do you explain the Ocean rising? In the last 100 years sea level has risen at least 6 inches.

Second of all, climate change is good for the economy. Now that DEI employees are all getting fired the only job they will be qualified to get will be pushing the Green New Deal. The reason we know that the science is solid on this is because the biggest proponents for us to spend trillions on the Green New Deal is a former waitress from Brooklyn and a few Hollywood actors. Does it look like a scam when the people telling you to stop burning fossil fuel are flying in private airplanes and own fancy yachts? Sure, that's not a good look, but ignore that. It's like that saying "don't look at what they do just obey what they say".
Climates change. Seas rising is a hoax though. The shoreline looks just like it did when I was young.
 

ZNP

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It proves there's a problem with CA government. The reservoir next to the Palisades, less than 1000 yards away, was empty for over a year due to maintenance. The mayor of LA flew to Africa right after warning was given of imminent fire threat rather than mobilize fire fighting efforts.
I was pointing out the hypocrisy of telling people this snow storm doesn't mean anything but the California fires do. It seems every news report is obliged to throw in a reference to climate change when they cover the California fires.
 

ZNP

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Climates change. Seas rising is a hoax though. The shoreline looks just like it did when I was young.
Sea level rise is the single easiest way to determine if Ice Caps and glaciers are melting. If Ice at the North pole melts that will not cause sea level to rise because the ice is in the sea. But if the Ice caps, and glaciers are melting it will. They tell us it can be 20 feet, well, in the last 100 years it has been six inches and as someone else pointed out that has been the natural trend since the end of the last ice age, so the six inches doesn't really mean much of anything.
 

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Let's make something very clear, this ice storm in the South does not in any way mean that Climate change is a hoax or that the powers that be have been lying to you.

On the other hand the fires in LA prove we have a problem with climate change. Cutting off the water from the North, not having water in the hydrants, and a few weird photos of houses burned to the ground while the trees and grass are fine are not proof of anything.

First of all, if the climate isn't changing how do you explain the Ocean rising? In the last 100 years sea level has risen at least 6 inches.

Second of all, climate change is good for the economy. Now that DEI employees are all getting fired the only job they will be qualified to get will be pushing the Green New Deal. The reason we know that the science is solid on this is because the biggest proponents for us to spend trillions on the Green New Deal is a former waitress from Brooklyn and a few Hollywood actors. Does it look like a scam when the people telling you to stop burning fossil fuel are flying in private airplanes and own fancy yachts? Sure, that's not a good look, but ignore that. It's like that saying "don't look at what they do just obey what they say".
I LIVE IN CA. " Climate change" is a FEAR tactic to get money out of people. Gavin Newsom wasted 28 Billion on Climate change and prevention. Built no water shed to prepare, built no water towers in areas where it could be used to fight fires. Did not have an emergency power source to use. What did he do with the 28 billion? The reports were clear, and we have had fires like this over the past four years. Yet nothing was done to put in place preventive measures. So the vampire Pimp Gavin Newsom is trying to yet again place blame on people and thing other than himself.


FYI, California is under the Judgement of God, which is why the fires are happening. They kill babies and are full of the lawlessness of sexual perversion and crime. They mock God, and now they reap what they sowed. There is no coincidence that LA, where Hollywood, and the majority of people who voted for sin. SF had two Earth Equates last week, and more are coming. They still have not repented.
 

ZNP

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I LIVE IN CA. " Climate change" is a FEAR tactic to get money out of people. Gavin Newsom wasted 28 Billion on Climate change and prevention. Built no water shed to prepare, built no water towers in areas where it could be used to fight fires. Did not have an emergency power source to use. What did he do with the 28 billion? The reports were clear, and we have had fires like this over the past four years. Yet nothing was done to put in place preventive measures. So the vampire Pimp Gavin Newsom is trying to yet again place blame on people and thing other than himself.


FYI, California is under the Judgement of God, which is why the fires are happening. They kill babies and are full of the lawlessness of sexual perversion and crime. They mock God, and now they reap what they sowed. There is no coincidence that LA, where Hollywood, and the majority of people who voted for sin. SF had two Earth Equates last week, and more are coming. They still have not repented.
Wasted? Do you really think the money was wasted? You have some of the most incompetent people making 700k a year, I think they would beg to differ, that money sent their kids to private school and not some failing public school, they were able to afford vacations in Europe, I doubt those that got the money would agree that it was wasted. Instead I think what the Bible would say is they are worthless shepherds that feed themselves and let the sheep burn up in the fire.
 

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BS. It hasn't warmed significantly for something like the past 20 years
Do you have the temperature data for the last twenty years, so I can analyze your data?

According to the organizations that analyze temperature data from countries around the world.

Also from satellite data around the world.

The temperature has been rising steadily for the last 50 years.

If you do not supply an alternate source for the temperature data for the last 50 years.

Then I would assume that you are making a false claim, one that is not based on hundreds
of weather stations. From each country around the world.

There is a difference between authentic temperature data and someone's opinion!

Digital thermometers were employed in many countries in the seventies. So temperature readings
these days are in the thousands of temperature readings a day. I believe there are over 17,000 weather
stations around the globe now.

If you do have a private source for temperature data then you have nothing.
 

ZNP

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Do you have the temperature data for the last twenty years, so I can analyze your data?

According to the organizations that analyze temperature data from countries around the world.

Also from satellite data around the world.

The temperature has been rising steadily for the last 50 years.

If you do not supply an alternate source for the temperature data for the last 50 years.

Then I would assume that you are making a false claim, one that is not based on hundreds
of weather stations. From each country around the world.

There is a difference between authentic temperature data and someone's opinion!

Digital thermometers were employed in many countries in the seventies. So temperature readings
these days are in the thousands of temperature readings a day. I believe there are over 17,000 weather
stations around the globe now.

If you do have a private source for temperature data then you have nothing.
Well then show us the data for the last 20 years from 2004 to 2024
 
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Do you have the temperature data for the last twenty years, so I can analyze your data?

According to the organizations that analyze temperature data from countries around the world.

Also from satellite data around the world.

The temperature has been rising steadily for the last 50 years.

If you do not supply an alternate source for the temperature data for the last 50 years.

Then I would assume that you are making a false claim, one that is not based on hundreds
of weather stations. From each country around the world.

There is a difference between authentic temperature data and someone's opinion!

Digital thermometers were employed in many countries in the seventies. So temperature readings
these days are in the thousands of temperature readings a day. I believe there are over 17,000 weather
stations around the globe now.

If you do have a private source for temperature data then you have nothing.
I haven't followed this in years, but this is pretty current

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/09/01/the-new-pause-lengthens-yet-again/
 

ZNP

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Well that data is ambiguous, if you notice they give a long term trend which does look consistent increase, But they show you a graph from 2015 to the present where the average has not increased at all, which is what Christrosefromthedead said, though he used 20 year time period instead of ten. So it is possible we are about to see it spike to a new high keeping us on the long term trend or it is also possible we hit a top.

We don't know.
 
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Well that data is ambiguous, if you notice they give a long term trend which does look consistent increase, But they show you a graph from 2015 to the present where the average has not increased at all, which is what Christrosefromthedead said, though he used 20 year time period instead of ten. So it is possible we are about to see it spike to a new high keeping us on the long term trend or it is also possible we hit a top.

We don't know.
The 20-year period I mentioned did indeed occur, but the details fail me since I've been away from it for so long. You can find it on that website