Climate change -- Existential threat to humanity

[Nehemiah6]

...so that food becomes scarce not the other way around.

That is exactly what they want. The massive attack on farmers and farmland is how they plan to jeopardize the food supply. And Bill Gates has been buying up huge tracts of farmland to PREVENT the raising of crops. Severe restrictions on fertilizers and penalizing farmers for normal farm activity is also a part of the agenda. Then the sabotage of food plants, cattle operations , chicken operations, etc is all for the same purpose. This is all diabolical but there is no one to stop all this.

 

[ZNP]

That is exactly what they want. The massive attack on farmers and farmland is how they plan to jeopardize the food supply. And Bill Gates has been buying up huge tracts of farmland to PREVENT the raising of crops. Severe restrictions on fertilizers and penalizing farmers for normal farm activity is also a part of the agenda. Then the sabotage of food plants, cattle operations , chicken operations, etc is all for the same purpose. This is all diabolical but there is no one to stop all this.

Hold it are you saying that food is more important to people than the amount of carbon being recycled through the atmosphere, oceans and plants?

 

[TheLearner]

Today I wrote, before I release it to the Press, what are your thoughts, please.

Ideas to reduce Pollution and Landfills

Stores: All food should be in Plastic clear square jars with labeling printed into the plastic. The lids should be of the same type of plastic. Eggs can be placed in Medication AM PM Pill type Boxes. No food should be stored in Metal, shrink wrap, glass, cardboard or paper. Jars can be cleaned for reuse.

Trash Pick Up: Plastic without bags in trash cans. Organic can be put in large Plastic Jars with Plastic Trash bags for the purpose of going to Company Compost Farms.

Landfills and Dumps: Dig up and sort for reuse. Metal by grade or type can be either shredded or melted down to go scrap yards and Manufactures. Organics can be taken to Company Compost Farms. Paper and Cardboard shredded by type to take to paper mills after cleaning. Plastic by type shredded to go to Manufactures. Rubber takes to Rubber Companies. Companies can use metals to make Smokeless Fire Pits to reduce buyer's costs and air pollution. Dead Human remains to Police for identification and proper burials. Dead Animal bones shredded to take to compost farms. Carpet to be burned in incinerators with air scribers designed like smokeless fire pits. Glass put into tumblers to break up or melted to send to glass companies for reuse. Electronics disassembled to send components to the correct companies. Wood can shredded be used for remaking wood or compost farms. Drywall can be taken to companies to remake for sale. Insulation can be taken to companies to reuse in products. Computers can be updated for Students, Teachers, seniors, and anyone who needs one. Magnets can be reassembled to replace bulletin Boards. Writing tools can be taken apart to send parts to proper places.

Written by a retired Teacher, Military Veteran, Factory Worker, Graduated from Madonna University. Feel free to send me money, new computers for students or anyone who can use them. Daniel L Marsh 6539 Linville Dr Brighton, MI 48116 810-225-2940

 

[Nehemiah6]

All food should be in Plastic clear square jars with labeling printed into the plastic.

Wouldn't glass -- the classic material for food and milk -- be the best option? It is totally non-polluting and totally recyclable. There was a time when glass was the only option.

 

[TheLearner]

Wouldn't glass -- the classic material for food and milk -- be the best option? It is totally non-polluting and totally recyclable. There was a time when glass was the only option.

My goal is limit the number of the types of containers, thus less waste.

 

[Nehemiah6]

My goal is limit the number of the types of containers, thus less waste.

Right. So mandate glass and ban all other materials. There is no waste in glass (which is simply sand in another form). There is tons of sand on this planet. And glass is very versatile. Tempered glass can be heated at high temperatures without any risk.

 

[TheLearner]

Right. So mandate glass and ban all other materials. There is no waste in glass (which is simply sand in another form). There is tons of sand on this planet. And glass is very versatile. Tempered glass can be heated at high temperatures without any risk.

sounds good

 

[gb9]

Right. So mandate glass and ban all other materials. There is no waste in glass (which is simply sand in another form). There is tons of sand on this planet. And glass is very versatile. Tempered glass can be heated at high temperatures without any risk.

good thought, but will probably never happen....

 

[FredVB]

Who wants more microplastics in them? Use of more plastic is no desirable solution.

The world is being widely destroyed and this way of modern living is not right for us. We could be living in sustainable ways, being apart without those same demands, and, we could be growing what we need for food.
https://yaleclimateconnections.org/...rreversible-climate-disaster-scientists-warn/

I copied the rest of this.

Humanity has failed to limit global heating to 1.5°C above pre-industrial levels, as the Paris Agreement aspired to pursue through determined efforts.

Recent data from authoritative sources like the World Meteorological Organization, Copernicus Climate Change Service, and Berkeley Earth confirm that 2025 ranked as the third-warmest year on record, with global average surface temperatures reaching approximately 1.44–1.47°C above the 1850–1900 baseline.

The three-year period from 2023 to 2025 averaged around 1.48°C above pre-industrial levels, marking the first multi-year span to exceed the 1.5°C threshold, even though the Paris goal refers to long-term warming over decades rather than short-term fluctuations.

This breach signals that the window for staying below 1.5°C without overshoot has effectively closed due to insufficient emissions reductions since 2015. Current policies and national pledges project warming of 2.2–2.8°C by 2100, far beyond safe limits, with long-term warming already estimated at about 1.4°C.

Scientists warn that the planet is on track to reach or surpass the 1.5°C long-term threshold by the end of this decade—over a decade earlier than anticipated when the Paris Agreement was signed. The consequences include intensified extreme weather, accelerated sea-level rise, ecosystem collapse, and heightened risks of irreversible tipping points.

To change course immediately, governments must deliver drastic, economy-wide emissions cuts starting now: peaking global greenhouse gases before 2025 at the latest proved impossible, but rapid halving by 2030, aggressive fossil fuel phase-out, massive renewable energy scaling, electrification across sectors, and enhanced carbon removal could limit overshoot duration and magnitude.

Returning warming below 1.5°C by century's end remains theoretically possible but demands unprecedented ambition, equity in global action, and avoidance of further delays that lock in greater damages. Every fraction of a degree avoided matters profoundly for human societies and planetary stability.

 

[Eli1]

I could use some of this global heating right now in -5 F weather.

 

[Gideon300]

Who wants more microplastics in them? Use of more plastic is no desirable solution.

The world is being widely destroyed and this way of modern living is not right for us. We could be living in sustainable ways, being apart without those same demands, and, we could be growing what we need for food.
https://yaleclimateconnections.org/...rreversible-climate-disaster-scientists-warn/

I copied the rest of this.

Humanity has failed to limit global heating to 1.5°C above pre-industrial levels, as the Paris Agreement aspired to pursue through determined efforts.

Recent data from authoritative sources like the World Meteorological Organization, Copernicus Climate Change Service, and Berkeley Earth confirm that 2025 ranked as the third-warmest year on record, with global average surface temperatures reaching approximately 1.44–1.47°C above the 1850–1900 baseline.

The three-year period from 2023 to 2025 averaged around 1.48°C above pre-industrial levels, marking the first multi-year span to exceed the 1.5°C threshold, even though the Paris goal refers to long-term warming over decades rather than short-term fluctuations.

This breach signals that the window for staying below 1.5°C without overshoot has effectively closed due to insufficient emissions reductions since 2015. Current policies and national pledges project warming of 2.2–2.8°C by 2100, far beyond safe limits, with long-term warming already estimated at about 1.4°C.

Scientists warn that the planet is on track to reach or surpass the 1.5°C long-term threshold by the end of this decade—over a decade earlier than anticipated when the Paris Agreement was signed. The consequences include intensified extreme weather, accelerated sea-level rise, ecosystem collapse, and heightened risks of irreversible tipping points.

To change course immediately, governments must deliver drastic, economy-wide emissions cuts starting now: peaking global greenhouse gases before 2025 at the latest proved impossible, but rapid halving by 2030, aggressive fossil fuel phase-out, massive renewable energy scaling, electrification across sectors, and enhanced carbon removal could limit overshoot duration and magnitude.

Returning warming below 1.5°C by century's end remains theoretically possible but demands unprecedented ambition, equity in global action, and avoidance of further delays that lock in greater damages. Every fraction of a degree avoided matters profoundly for human societies and planetary stability.View attachment 285221View attachment 285222

The world system wants to guilt trip everyone into eating bugs and living on weeds. God gave permission for me to eat meat. I'll take God's advice, thanks. I note that the climate guilt trippers went to their thousands of dollars a day conference in their private jets, much of it paid for by taxpayers. When the rich and shameless eat bugs I'll consider it. And then I'll say no.

You won't change human nature. And the climate change gestapo won't tell you that the earth is becoming greener because of the increased CO2, which is essential for plant growth. If they are serious, they will compel Putin to quit attacking Ukraine. All those explosions can't help the climate. Neither is the destruction of forests through war.

God is in control. It is His earth and He owns everything in it. The earth will last just as long as God intends for it to last and then it will be replaced.

 

[gb9]

The world system wants to guilt trip everyone into eating bugs and living on weeds. God gave permission for me to eat meat. I'll take God's advice, thanks. I note that the climate guilt trippers went to their thousands of dollars a day conference in their private jets, much of it paid for by taxpayers. When the rich and shameless eat bugs I'll consider it. And then I'll say no.

You won't change human nature. And the climate change gestapo won't tell you that the earth is becoming greener because of the increased CO2, which is essential for plant growth. If they are serious, they will compel Putin to quit attacking Ukraine. All those explosions can't help the climate. Neither is the destruction of forests through war.

God is in control. It is His earth and He owns everything in it. The earth will last just as long as God intends for it to last and then it will be replaced.

very well said!

 

[NightTwister]

Right. So mandate glass and ban all other materials. There is no waste in glass (which is simply sand in another form). There is tons of sand on this planet. And glass is very versatile. Tempered glass can be heated at high temperatures without any risk.

Weight is a consideration in transportation costs and fuel consumption.

 

[the_seeker]

A lot of silly conspiracy theories around here.

Man-made global warming is real. The physics are clear and no one - even the most eager climatechange denier - can escape from the laws of physics. This warming is a serious threat to our planet and we should do something about it.

 

[Eli1]

A lot of silly conspiracy theories around here.

Man-made global warming is real. The physics are clear and no one - even the most eager climatechange denier - can escape from the laws of physics. This warming is a serious threat to our planet and we should do something about it.

Agreed.
The best way to counter a dumb idea is to use an even dumber idea such as paying a carbon tax from your private jet.

 

[the_seeker]

The best way to counter a dumb idea is to use an even dumber idea such as paying a carbon tax from your private jet.

What is the first "dumb" idea you are referring to, and why do you think the second "even dumber idea" is dumb ?

 

[Eli1]

What is the first "dumb" idea you are referring to, and why do you think the second "even dumber idea" is dumb ?

The first dumb idea is to prioritize a 1% marginal effect on our planet and make it sound like it's a 75% marginal effect on the planet, when in fact scientists that have drilled ice sheets in the north pole, they have seen carbon monoxide levels (in those ice sheets) which wiped out a lot of species in the past due to release of methane from the soil or super volcanoes.
So our levels compared to an era which we didn't even have all this modern tech, are nowhere close to what mother earth can produce naturally.

But since Al Gore wants to sell some "green" stuff and you buy it, don't make it a priority.
And then when Al Gore says that we need to pay a carbon tax, is when he completes the circle of stupidity.

A more common sense approach would be to take some light action on lessening our carbon footprint, but that should be like the last item on a large list after, wars, disease, famine, inequality etc.

 

[the_seeker]

The first dumb idea is to prioritize a 1% marginal effect on our planet and make it sound like it's a 75% marginal effect on the planet, when in fact scientists that have drilled ice sheets in the north pole, they have seen carbon monoxide levels (in those ice sheets) which wiped out a lot of species in the past due to release of methane from the soil or super volcanoes.

You wrote "carbon monoxide" which makes me sceptical to your knowledge of climate gases. What does CO have to do about climate change?

 

[the_seeker]

The first dumb idea is to prioritize a 1% marginal effect

What do you mean? What are you talking about?

 

[Eli1]

You wrote "carbon monoxide" which makes me sceptical to your knowledge of climate gases. What does CO have to do about climate change?

This is a good point and a lot of times we have to go back to basics. Happens in Christian discussions about the Bible too.
In this case i made an incorrect assumption about your knowledge in the topic because since you said you work in IT, i assumed you're up to speed with a lot of science news.

I thought we were rowing in-synch but we gotta stop and go back to basics.

A lot of silly conspiracy theories around here.

Man-made global warming is real. The physics are clear and no one - even the most eager climatechange denier - can escape from the laws of physics. This warming is a serious threat to our planet and we should do something about it.

What is your definition of man-made global warming?