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I'm not going to comment and the vaccine/anti-vaccine debate but we have serious problems with our healthcare system in the U.S. Us normal Christian families can end up bankrupt over a hospital visit, or die because we can't afford their outrageous prices. I just know we can love each other and do so much better as Christians to take care of each other in our times of need.
 

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I'm not going to comment and the vaccine/anti-vaccine debate but we have serious problems with our healthcare system in the U.S. Us normal Christian families can end up bankrupt over a hospital visit, or die because we can't afford their outrageous prices. I just know we can love each other and do so much better as Christians to take care of each other in our times of need.
Have you heard of some of the Christian Health Share organizations that are out there? Your monthly payment goes directly to a person or family who needs their medical bill paid. And if YOU need a bill paid, then money comes to you for help.
So there ARE options out there for Christians to help care for Christians in the world of health.
 
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Have you heard of some of the Christian Health Share organizations that are out there? Your monthly payment goes directly to a person or family who needs their medical bill paid. And if YOU need a bill paid, then money comes to you for help.
So there ARE options out there for Christians to help care for Christians in the world of health.
That sounds interesting, I've never heard of these before. I will have to check it out!
 

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Your best defense against Covid 19 is vaccination.
Really? Have you looked at the number of vaccine deaths and vaccine adverse effects? And this is while under-reporting is a fact.

VAERS Database (to 12/24/21)
Number of Deaths 20,622*
Number of Adverse Reactions 983,758
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34,337 Deaths 3,120,439 Injuries Following COVID Shots in European Database as UK Public Data Show 35 Deaths 213 Hospitalizations Among Booster Triple Vaccinated
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Christmas 2021: 3010 Dead Babies 14,639 Cases of Heart Disease After 1 Year of Experimental COVID-19 Shots
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Really? Have you looked at the number of vaccine deaths and vaccine adverse effects? And this is while under-reporting is a fact.

VAERS Database (to 12/24/21)
Number of Deaths 20,622*
Number of Adverse Reactions 983,758
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34,337 Deaths 3,120,439 Injuries Following COVID Shots in European Database as UK Public Data Show 35 Deaths 213 Hospitalizations Among Booster Triple Vaccinated
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Christmas 2021: 3010 Dead Babies 14,639 Cases of Heart Disease After 1 Year of Experimental COVID-19 Shots
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If you mention the numbers of vaccine victims. You should also mention the numbers of the virus victims.
In germany died so far 78 people out of 60 million vaccined people because of the vaccine!!!
And still the unvaccined people dominate the icu's.
So, it may be risky to be vaccined, but it is much much much more risky to stay unvaccined.
 

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So, it may be risky to be vaccined, but it is much much much more risky to stay unvaccined.
Damned if you do and damned if you don't? What are the long term effects from the vaccine? I'm convinced that this "plan-demic" was NO ACCIDENT! Yet the people responsible for it will never be held accountable.
 

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In which universe are you at present? Mandatory masking and vaccinations have become the norm. But here's why the FDA is dragging its heels in that lawsuit against Pfizer:
Over 42,000 Adverse Reaction Reports Revealed In First Batch Of Pfizer Vax Docs
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/...-reports-revealed-first-batch-pfizer-vax-docs

So why wasn't the Pfizer vaccine totally banned, and why were the Pfizer executives not cuffed, prosecuted, and jailed?

As to the Mark of the Beast, those who refuse to take that mark are immediately beheaded. Just like ISIS beheading the "infidels".

In some countries the vaccine is mandated. It depends where you live. Different governments etc. One of the reasons I don't believe the mark is here yet is because there isn't a one world government . This is only one of several reasons. But maybe I am wrong and respect that we don't all agree. And that's ok.

It isn't the mark because no one is being killed for it. Maybe when the mark comes it will start like this. I know that when it comes the holy spirit will lead all of us true believers into all truth. But yeah it could be implemented this way in the future
 

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it is Biblical to NOT take it...you MUST not take it...God says NO!!!!


Jeremiah 17:5-9

New International Version



5 This is what the Lord says:
“Cursed is the one who trusts in man,
who draws strength from mere flesh
and whose heart turns away from the Lord.
6 That person will be like a bush in the wastelands;
they will not see prosperity when it comes.
They will dwell in the parched places of the desert,
in a salt land where no one lives.
7 “But blessed is the one who trusts in the Lord,
whose confidence is in him.
8 They will be like a tree planted by the water
that sends out its roots by the stream.
It does not fear when heat comes;
its leaves are always green.
It has no worries in a year of drought
and never fails to bear fruit.”
9 The heart is deceitful above all things
and beyond cure.
Who can understand it?


Also, He says NOT to get tattoos and what is a tattoo? It is a bunch of needles going into your skin!! What is the difference between ONE needle and thousands?? We shall get NOTHING on or in our bodies!!! God says NO NO NO NO NO!!!!

16 Don’t you know that you yourselves are God’s temple and that God’s Spirit dwells in your midst? 17 If anyone destroys God’s temple, God will destroy that person; for God’s temple is sacred, and you together are that temple.

12 “I have the right to do anything,” you say—but not everything is beneficial. “I have the right to do anything”—but I will not be mastered by anything. 13 You say, “Food for the stomach and the stomach for food, and God will destroy them both.” The body, however, is not meant for sexual immorality but for the Lord, and the Lord for the body. 14 By his power God raised the Lord from the dead, and he will raise us also. 15 Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ himself? Shall I then take the members of Christ and unite them with a prostitute? Never! 16 Do you not know that he who unites himself with a prostitute is one with her in body? For it is said, “The two will become one flesh.”[b] 17 But whoever is united with the Lord is one with him in spirit.[c]




Why would God need us to get a vaccine?? Don't you think if He wanted us to be alive He would keep us alive?? Aren't we supposed to be alive in Christ?? To die is for the Lord and to live is for the Lord...1 John 4:18 18 There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love.

If you are afraid to die, then you WILL go to hell, because most people are "afraid" to die either because they NEVER truly trusted in Christ, or B. because they want to stay in this world and we are NOT to love this world or the things in this world that is in 1 John as well....just saying do NOT tell people it is NOT Biblical because it is VERY Biblical NOT to get it!! We should be focusing on the word NOT the world, and getting people to STOP sinning!! The people who take the shot ARE going to die....

trunews.com is a great way to get the Christian truth. I do NOT agree with everyone but ask God ALWAYS who is correct and who is wrong....Jesus is coming and it is because people are continuing to live in sin when we ARE supposed to STOP sinning and be Holy because God is Holy!! Will we sin, of course, but we should NOT do it on purpose!!! Especially in the Body....but the problem is NOBODY is focused on God anymore, EVERYONE focused on their phones and in Fakebook and social media, and NOBODY gives God the time of day. They ONLY pray when they need something and NEVER gives Him the credit, or they stop after they get what they want. We have all caved into the government and NOW Jesus is coming, NOBODY tells other people about Jesus and are more concerned what people think of them, they are the no judging mentality when they refuse to rebuke and correct sin. These churches have their own doctrine when Paul said if anyone speaks any other doctrine than the one we gave then you should run...I am paraphrasing, but still we are the reason people are dying!! The "christians" these days are COWARDs.....and Revelation 21:8 says who will enter the lake of fire and if you notice unbelievers are their own category, so that means that the other categories are the believers still living that way. the Liars, Cowards, Sexually Immoral, Witchcraft people, Idolaters, and ALL those categories are the BELIEVERS who WILL enter the lake of fire. James 2:19 says you believe in one God good for you even the demons believe and shutter. So people that are "christians' Are goin to hell......time to wake up....

it's not a sin to put some things in your body.

Pacemakers? Not a sin.

knee replacement? Not a sin

contraceptive implant? Not a sin

injection for medication or a vaccine against a disease like polio? Not a sin?

Earrings? Not a sin

medicines ? Food? Micr ochipping livestock or pets? Not sins.



The question is whether this particular vaccine is the mark or not. Or harmful or not.
 

EnglishChick

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it is Biblical to NOT take it...you MUST not take it...God says NO!!!!


Jeremiah 17:5-9

New International Version



5 This is what the Lord says:
“Cursed is the one who trusts in man,
who draws strength from mere flesh
and whose heart turns away from the Lord.
6 That person will be like a bush in the wastelands;
they will not see prosperity when it comes.
They will dwell in the parched places of the desert,
in a salt land where no one lives.
7 “But blessed is the one who trusts in the Lord,
whose confidence is in him.
8 They will be like a tree planted by the water
that sends out its roots by the stream.
It does not fear when heat comes;
its leaves are always green.
It has no worries in a year of drought
and never fails to bear fruit.”
9 The heart is deceitful above all things
and beyond cure.
Who can understand it?


Also, He says NOT to get tattoos and what is a tattoo? It is a bunch of needles going into your skin!! What is the difference between ONE needle and thousands?? We shall get NOTHING on or in our bodies!!! God says NO NO NO NO NO!!!!

16 Don’t you know that you yourselves are God’s temple and that God’s Spirit dwells in your midst? 17 If anyone destroys God’s temple, God will destroy that person; for God’s temple is sacred, and you together are that temple.

12 “I have the right to do anything,” you say—but not everything is beneficial. “I have the right to do anything”—but I will not be mastered by anything. 13 You say, “Food for the stomach and the stomach for food, and God will destroy them both.” The body, however, is not meant for sexual immorality but for the Lord, and the Lord for the body. 14 By his power God raised the Lord from the dead, and he will raise us also. 15 Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ himself? Shall I then take the members of Christ and unite them with a prostitute? Never! 16 Do you not know that he who unites himself with a prostitute is one with her in body? For it is said, “The two will become one flesh.”[b] 17 But whoever is united with the Lord is one with him in spirit.[c]




Why would God need us to get a vaccine?? Don't you think if He wanted us to be alive He would keep us alive?? Aren't we supposed to be alive in Christ?? To die is for the Lord and to live is for the Lord...1 John 4:18 18 There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love.

If you are afraid to die, then you WILL go to hell, because most people are "afraid" to die either because they NEVER truly trusted in Christ, or B. because they want to stay in this world and we are NOT to love this world or the things in this world that is in 1 John as well....just saying do NOT tell people it is NOT Biblical because it is VERY Biblical NOT to get it!! We should be focusing on the word NOT the world, and getting people to STOP sinning!! The people who take the shot ARE going to die....

trunews.com is a great way to get the Christian truth. I do NOT agree with everyone but ask God ALWAYS who is correct and who is wrong....Jesus is coming and it is because people are continuing to live in sin when we ARE supposed to STOP sinning and be Holy because God is Holy!! Will we sin, of course, but we should NOT do it on purpose!!! Especially in the Body....but the problem is NOBODY is focused on God anymore, EVERYONE focused on their phones and in Fakebook and social media, and NOBODY gives God the time of day. They ONLY pray when they need something and NEVER gives Him the credit, or they stop after they get what they want. We have all caved into the government and NOW Jesus is coming, NOBODY tells other people about Jesus and are more concerned what people think of them, they are the no judging mentality when they refuse to rebuke and correct sin. These churches have their own doctrine when Paul said if anyone speaks any other doctrine than the one we gave then you should run...I am paraphrasing, but still we are the reason people are dying!! The "christians" these days are COWARDs.....and Revelation 21:8 says who will enter the lake of fire and if you notice unbelievers are their own category, so that means that the other categories are the believers still living that way. the Liars, Cowards, Sexually Immoral, Witchcraft people, Idolaters, and ALL those categories are the BELIEVERS who WILL enter the lake of fire. James 2:19 says you believe in one God good for you even the demons believe and shutter. So people that are "christians' Are goin to hell......time to wake up....

I do agree we aren't to live in fear though . However we die we will be with Jesus . So even if we die of covid. Or a vaccine side effect. I don't see anything wrong with taking precautions though. medicine of any kind including vaccines are not sinful in themselves because all good things come from God.
 

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Damned if you do and damned if you don't? What are the long term effects from the vaccine? I'm convinced that this "plan-demic" was NO ACCIDENT! Yet the people responsible for it will never be held accountable.
Was the spain flu 100 years ago an accident?
Anyhow it makes no different. The virus and his variants are real. And the only way to fight against an virus is an vaccine and distance to the infectet people.
It is logic that there are for an New product no longtime expieriences available.
For this you need 5-10 years, right?
you would prefer to wait this time, before getting the vac? The virus is now active. And if i am not wrong then till today 5.44 million people died because of the virus. Without the vaccine we would have probably more.
Waiting 5 years before taking the vac, means wait till at least 2025.
Whom will you explain this?
There is always a risk.
As children of God we can know that we are in his Hand. Every second.
 

EnglishChick

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Was the spain flu 100 years ago an accident?
Anyhow it makes no different. The virus and his variants are real. And the only way to fight against an virus is an vaccine and distance to the infectet people.
It is logic that there are for an New product no longtime expieriences available.
For this you need 5-10 years, right?
you would prefer to wait this time, before getting the vac? The virus is now active. And if i am not wrong then till today 5.44 million people died because of the virus. Without the vaccine we would have probably more.
Waiting 5 years before taking the vac, means wait till at least 2025.
Whom will you explain this?
There is always a risk.
As children of God we can know that we are in his Hand. Every second.


Amen!


Jesus said not one of His true children will be snatched from His hand. When we are about to do something which will separate God from us forever. His spirit inside us will warn us.

When the mark happen s if we keep open to His voice He will warn us all. He will not let one of us be lost .He wishes none of us to perish . Losing salvation is a choice we make .
 

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Was the spain flu 100 years ago an accident?
Anyhow it makes no different. The virus and his variants are real. And the only way to fight against an virus is an vaccine and distance to the infectet people.
It is logic that there are for an New product no longtime expieriences available.
For this you need 5-10 years, right?
you would prefer to wait this time, before getting the vac? The virus is now active. And if i am not wrong then till today 5.44 million people died because of the virus. Without the vaccine we would have probably more.
Waiting 5 years before taking the vac, means wait till at least 2025.
Whom will you explain this?
There is always a risk.
As children of God we can know that we are in his Hand. Every second.
The Spain flu was probably no accident either. The virus certainly is real and it seems either way we go it's a roll of the dice.
This whole thing is just one big satanic nightmare! :mad:
 

Aidan1

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The Spain flu was probably no accident either. The virus certainly is real and it seems either way we go it's a roll of the dice.
This whole thing is just one big satanic nightmare! :mad:
But do we not all the time have to do with satanic troubles. How many have to live in war conditions or under terrible goverments
( my daughter in law is coming from venezuela) and terrible life conditions?
 
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I wouldn't call taking the jab a sin...though I wouldn't call it smart, either! IMO
 

mailmandan

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I wouldn't call taking the jab a sin...though I wouldn't call it smart, either! IMO
People are scared and confused and just plain sick of all this crap! Some are convinced the vaccine is toxic and will eventually ruin their immune system or kill them while others believe without it they will certainly end up in the hospital or die if they get Covid. Many people don’t know what to believe or who to trust. Who knows what 2022 will bring us, but with the current administration in place, I’m not very optimistic. We need godly leadership and not ungodly dictators!
 

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As far as our fight not being against flesh and blood goes...
"Doctor, that pill you want me to take is similar to another one that made me black out."
He yells, "Let me be the pharmacist!" I cower and give in.
Later I took half a pill and blacked out. 5 days later my head clears enough to realize that my wife had taken the kids and left.
A loud "thought" says, "She's gone and she's not coming back!" I believed it. I now realize that it was an evil spirit that I heard.
Not in my right mind, I take enough of my M-Eslon to kill 10 men.
I survived, albeit with an oxygen-deprivation brain injury.
This happened in February, 2000.

If I had only listened to the Lord and not the doctor...
your doctor had no right to bully you. You were sinned against. Don't blame yourself . Praying God will heal you.
 
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This world is not my home nor is my treasure here. Just passing through. Like you! :)
 

Aidan1

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People are scared and confused and just plain sick of all this crap! Some are convinced the vaccine is toxic and will eventually ruin their immune system or kill them while others believe without it they will certainly end up in the hospital or die if they get Covid. Many people don’t know what to believe or who to trust. Who knows what 2022 will bring us, but with the current administration in place, I’m not very optimistic. We need godly leadership and not ungodly dictators!
And this is the point.In this times we have to expect more ungodliness then godlines from the rulers of our countrys and this world.