Charlie Kirk - so what now ?
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They didn't directly threaten to pull it, they did it mafia style: Ya know, this sure is a nice place you have here. It would be a shame if something happened to it. lol
More like a swarm of blood sucking mosquitoes looking for a chance to stick their straw if you ask me.
Trolls be like...
OK, I couldn't be mad at skeeters that lay out on a chaiz lounge. lolMore like a swarm of blood sucking mosquitoes looking for a chance to stick their straw if you ask me.
Trolls be like...
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Highly educational banter here. There's a difference in talking to Troll kind, compared to talking about Troll kind.
Charlie,at the start of his Utah campus appearance.
Who knew?
So much love would soon turn to heartbreak.
https://youtube.com/shorts/LOCPIbfwx3c?si=1TxPI4_jB3Hebkqk
Who knew?
So much love would soon turn to heartbreak.
https://youtube.com/shorts/LOCPIbfwx3c?si=1TxPI4_jB3Hebkqk
I am not American. And I do not agree with many things which Charlie Kirk propagated politically even if it was in another country. But that was a tragic death. I saw the video on youtube and it was sickening.
What his wife did in the aftermath, forgiving his murderer. That takes a lot of strength. That shows real Christian values from the Kirk family. That's what being a Christian is about. Very Very hard to do. Not all can. God bless her and God bless his family.
I may not agree with someone in terms of religion, political views or world views. I don't have to. But the freedom to decide what people want to believe in is a God given right. It is only natural. Never forced. God himself gives us that choice. He does not force anyone to follow Him.
On that note, I want to share this quote: "I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it," - Voltaire.
ICE attack in Dallas: Joshua Jahn identified in latest violence against agency as dangerous pattern grows
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Dangerous rhetoric from the left has fueled lawlessness and is taking its toll in America!
https://www.foxnews.com/us/ice-atta...olence-against-agency-dangerous-pattern-grows
Dangerous rhetoric from the left has fueled lawlessness and is taking its toll in America!
Looking at Charlie Kirk in light of Samson
I am not likening Charlie to Samson, rather I am likening the populist movement of conservative Christians who work together with politicians to Samson. Charlie is simply an excellent example of this.
Judges 16:23 Then the lords of the Philistines gathered them together for to offer a great sacrifice unto Dagon their god, and to rejoice: for they said, Our god hath delivered Samson our enemy into our hand.
Think of all those who rejoiced when Charlie Kirk was killed, it is the same bloodthirsty attitude. However, I liken these Philistines to the Democrat party and they saw Charlies death as a political victory. To say that Charlie Kirk was their enemy and that Turning Point was a major reason for their defeat in the elections is not an exaggeration. I would also liken Delilah working with the Philistines to the Deep state infiltrating Charlies ministry to set him up.
24 And when the people saw him, they praised their god: for they said, Our god hath delivered into our hands our enemy, and the destroyer of our country, which slew many of us.
Once again, quite similar to what happened on Tik Tok and other platforms after his assassination.
25 And it came to pass, when their hearts were merry, that they said, Call for Samson, that he may make us sport. And they called for Samson out of the prison house; and he made them sport: and they set him between the pillars.
There have been those who have pointed out how Charlie was set up in the middle of the courtyard in the most exposed location.
26 And Samson said unto the lad that held him by the hand, Suffer me that I may feel the pillars whereupon the house standeth, that I may lean upon them. 27 Now the house was full of men and women; and all the lords of the Philistines were there; and there were upon the roof about three thousand men and women, that beheld while Samson made sport. 28 And Samson called unto the Lord, and said, O Lord God, remember me, I pray thee, and strengthen me, I pray thee, only this once, O God, that I may be at once avenged of the Philistines for my two eyes.
I would argue that we should not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. I don't think it is possible to get involved in politics without being unequally yoked with unbelievers. That said, each man should follow the Lord and be his servant and none of us is to judge another man's servant. But the last thing that Samson saw was that Delilah had betrayed him, so praying to be avenged for his eyes had to be a reference to the betrayal of the deep state.
29 And Samson took hold of the two middle pillars upon which the house stood, and on which it was borne up, of the one with his right hand, and of the other with his left. 30 And Samson said, Let me die with the Philistines. And he bowed himself with all his might; and the house fell upon the lords, and upon all the people that were therein. So the dead which he slew at his death were more than they which he slew in his life.
Again, this is also true of Charlie Kirk. The influence he had in his death was greater than he had in his life.
31 Then his brethren and all the house of his father came down, and took him, and brought him up, and buried him between Zorah and Eshtaol in the buryingplace of Manoah his father. And he judged Israel twenty years.
So we just saw the burial of Charlie Kirk, it was a major event on a Biblical scale. Obviously he did not "judge Israel" for twenty years. Turning point has been in existence since 2012. This is why I liken Samson to the conservative Christian movement in politics and that Charlie is simply the tip of the spear when looking at that movement. However, I do believe his death is also the death knell for the Democratic party. Just as Charlies death coincided with the death of 3,000 in the temple worshipping Dagon.
Also, when Moses came down from the mountain he found an orgy going on and 3,000 were killed. I think we have to connect these two events. God is sifting the believers, He alone can judge the hearts and he is separating the ones who are following Him from those who are idol worshippers.
I went to the memorial service for Charlie Kirk at State Farm Arena in Glendale, Az. The thing that stood out to me was the number of politicians. Charlie was clearly a Christian with a Christian ministry that had become intertwined with politicians and the deep state.
I am not likening Charlie to Samson, rather I am likening the populist movement of conservative Christians who work together with politicians to Samson. Charlie is simply an excellent example of this.
Judges 16:23 Then the lords of the Philistines gathered them together for to offer a great sacrifice unto Dagon their god, and to rejoice: for they said, Our god hath delivered Samson our enemy into our hand.
Think of all those who rejoiced when Charlie Kirk was killed, it is the same bloodthirsty attitude. However, I liken these Philistines to the Democrat party and they saw Charlies death as a political victory. To say that Charlie Kirk was their enemy and that Turning Point was a major reason for their defeat in the elections is not an exaggeration. I would also liken Delilah working with the Philistines to the Deep state infiltrating Charlies ministry to set him up.
24 And when the people saw him, they praised their god: for they said, Our god hath delivered into our hands our enemy, and the destroyer of our country, which slew many of us.
Once again, quite similar to what happened on Tik Tok and other platforms after his assassination.
25 And it came to pass, when their hearts were merry, that they said, Call for Samson, that he may make us sport. And they called for Samson out of the prison house; and he made them sport: and they set him between the pillars.
There have been those who have pointed out how Charlie was set up in the middle of the courtyard in the most exposed location.
26 And Samson said unto the lad that held him by the hand, Suffer me that I may feel the pillars whereupon the house standeth, that I may lean upon them. 27 Now the house was full of men and women; and all the lords of the Philistines were there; and there were upon the roof about three thousand men and women, that beheld while Samson made sport. 28 And Samson called unto the Lord, and said, O Lord God, remember me, I pray thee, and strengthen me, I pray thee, only this once, O God, that I may be at once avenged of the Philistines for my two eyes.
I would argue that we should not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. I don't think it is possible to get involved in politics without being unequally yoked with unbelievers. That said, each man should follow the Lord and be his servant and none of us is to judge another man's servant. But the last thing that Samson saw was that Delilah had betrayed him, so praying to be avenged for his eyes had to be a reference to the betrayal of the deep state.
29 And Samson took hold of the two middle pillars upon which the house stood, and on which it was borne up, of the one with his right hand, and of the other with his left. 30 And Samson said, Let me die with the Philistines. And he bowed himself with all his might; and the house fell upon the lords, and upon all the people that were therein. So the dead which he slew at his death were more than they which he slew in his life.
Again, this is also true of Charlie Kirk. The influence he had in his death was greater than he had in his life.
31 Then his brethren and all the house of his father came down, and took him, and brought him up, and buried him between Zorah and Eshtaol in the buryingplace of Manoah his father. And he judged Israel twenty years.
So we just saw the burial of Charlie Kirk, it was a major event on a Biblical scale. Obviously he did not "judge Israel" for twenty years. Turning point has been in existence since 2012. This is why I liken Samson to the conservative Christian movement in politics and that Charlie is simply the tip of the spear when looking at that movement. However, I do believe his death is also the death knell for the Democratic party. Just as Charlies death coincided with the death of 3,000 in the temple worshipping Dagon.
Also, when Moses came down from the mountain he found an orgy going on and 3,000 were killed. I think we have to connect these two events. God is sifting the believers, He alone can judge the hearts and he is separating the ones who are following Him from those who are idol worshippers.
I went to the memorial service for Charlie Kirk at State Farm Arena in Glendale, Az. The thing that stood out to me was the number of politicians. Charlie was clearly a Christian with a Christian ministry that had become intertwined with politicians and the deep state.
If you are talking about Charlie I assume this is in reference to his stance on Israel.
I don't believe anyone has the facts on this issue yet. Disagreeing with you on this issue is not "dodging questions and misrepresenting facts". What I have found is that everyone with a strong opinion on this also has a very strong opinion on what is part of the discussion and what isn't. The same people who accuse him of dodging questions dodge questions about the Bible and those who accuse him of misrepresenting the facts refuse to admit that the Bible is truth.
I think everyone on both sides of the debate agree what happened to Gaza is horrific. The issue for me is was this a fulfillment of God's righteous judgment prophesied in the Old Testament. I have found many places that support this as a fulfillment of prophecy and the prophet explains in detail what Gaza's crime was and why this judgment is simply them reaping what they have sown.
Also Christians are told repeatedly in the New Testament not to judge, all judgement is given to Jesus Christ who is Lord. Therefore it is not for me to judge Gaza, Hamas or Israel. I can point out sins, I can point out self defense, but the ultimate judgement is in the hands of the Lord Jesus.
I also believe I am to bless Israel. That does not mean I consider them sinless or beyond reproach. There are many ways to bless someone, even if they have done something wrong.
I recently saw a clip in which he was joking about Gaza being bombed and then he said that Palestine should kill more Jews so I guess he just wants them to keep killing each other.
On the issue of gun violence he was asked how many School shooters have been transgender and he's answered too many
That wasn't an honest answer to the question or an attempt to honestly engage the topic
Then when when asked about mass shootings, he deflected to gang violence which is a completely different topic
I have watched several clips of him and found him to be incredibly knowledgeable and willing to debate anyone. Whether or not you agree with him I felt he was honest, reasonable and considerate. I have also seen many who twist, distort and hear only what they want to hear while disregarding everything else he said. That is why the internet is full of people saying they are leaving the Democrats because they lied and they are evil to be rejoicing in this man's assassination.
I have even seen people like Van Jones say how offended he is at the way some people are responding to his assassination.
Van Jones shows the message Charlie Kirk sent him one day before he was killed
Everyone is polarizing...
And I don't like it.
This isn't really a polarizing subject in truth despite the politicians best efforts to polarize us. We are all still humans. (Despite the republican rhetoric)
Yes, God is figuratively the lion and the lamb....not a lion in a lamb's appearance. Both at the same time. Absolute command through fear and friendly and cute to the point of annoying.
But also as the Shepherd and we the sheep.
Meaning that we aren't to get involved.
Joining a side means joining the wolves.
So I'm on God's side. Trying my best to love my neighbor as myself. Trying to be on the side of the Shepherd....
Even if I get slaughtered like sheep.
Because everyone else just dies....I however will live forever.
And I don't like it.
This isn't really a polarizing subject in truth despite the politicians best efforts to polarize us. We are all still humans. (Despite the republican rhetoric)
Yes, God is figuratively the lion and the lamb....not a lion in a lamb's appearance. Both at the same time. Absolute command through fear and friendly and cute to the point of annoying.
But also as the Shepherd and we the sheep.
Meaning that we aren't to get involved.
Joining a side means joining the wolves.
So I'm on God's side. Trying my best to love my neighbor as myself. Trying to be on the side of the Shepherd....
Even if I get slaughtered like sheep.
Because everyone else just dies....I however will live forever.
Ah yes,religion of peace.
Alert: New Terror Threat Against Christian Churches
This is a threat against churches in the US, Europe and the world. Comes from Islam.
Nothing proves that like threats against everyone not Muslim.
What country is this again? (the UK?)
https://youtube.com/shorts/Cybn9tBuc0k?si=hmJPMvUeySlnAcOM
Allah made the Muslim woman. Then he said she had to hide everything under a garment. Because Allah made the Muslim man not to be trusted to not want to rape the Muslim woman if he could actually see any part of her.
And should that rape occur,Allah said her family had to then murder her. So the family could get back the honor the Muslim male rapist stole by raping their female fully hidden beneath clothing family member.
While her rapist goes free.
Islam translates to=Submission.
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