Charlie Kirk - so what now ?

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It's all good I understood your central point.
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The Gates of Hell shall not prevail against the builded church

James 4:1 From whence come wars and fightings among you? come they not hence, even of your lusts that war in your members?

This is not written to kings and rulers, it was written to the 12 tribes in the dispersion. James had a ministry to the circumcision, referring to Jewish believers. So this is referring to the fights we see among believers. We see this on the internet and social media all the time. Probably the single most famous example of these fightings is Charlie Kirk going onto campuses and debating people over various issues. The lusts here refer to things like pride, ambition, covetousness, and envy.

2 Ye lust, and have not: ye kill, and desire to have, and cannot obtain: ye fight and war, yet ye have not, because ye ask not.

This seems extreme to talk about killing, but if you want to know why Charlie Kirk was killed it was because of covetousness and envy. He built the most powerful and influential political organization and that has resulted in a lot of covetousness and envy. If he had simply been willing to be a lacky for the powers that be they wouldn't have killed him, but they desired to have control of his ministry and they couldn't obtain. He was under intense spiritual attack, he helped people get elected, he influenced who got appointed, it was a power that invites envy.

3 Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume it upon your lusts.

The requests came to him in order to consume it on their lusts and in order to be faithful to God he had to say no. Some people say that we should not get involved in politics. I do not see that prohibition in the New Testament, but I do see the New Testament telling us we are not ignorant of Satan's devices. You can be sure if you build a powerful and influential ministry that touches the rulers of this age, well then, you will certainly be in the bulls eye of Satan. The entire halls of power lie in the evil one, you don't step into that arena without getting his full attention.

4 Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.

It would be foolish to think that Satan did not have false brothers and sisters who secretly stole into that organization in order to figure out how to bring them into submission just as what we saw with the Judaizers and the church that Paul talked about in Galatians. They were strong enough to influence Peter, you can be sure they will be strong enough to influence many who appear to be pillars of the faith. Second, don't be surprised if this goes as far as them being adulterers and adulteresses. We saw close people to Paul who loved the world and became enemies of God. It is a temptation common to man to love the world. What we saw at Charlie Kirk's memorial was an assembly of the most powerful politicians in the world, so you can be absolutely certain they will use every resource available to them to get control of this ministry. Samson was brought down by Delilah, so don't shy away at this reference to them being adulterers and adulteresses.

5 Do ye think that the scripture saith in vain, The spirit that dwelleth in us lusteth to envy?

Every human being has been infected with sin and that spirit dwells within us lusts to envy. The point is that in a spiritual warfare Satan will go after the weak link. Jesus had 12 disciples and one was the weak link. Some will be tempted to lust unto envy. They will want the ministry to become more political, wield more political power, and to compromise the stand with the Lord. People who donate money, people who are in the ministry, somewhere their will be a weak link. This is not speculation, it is a spiritual principle. If your ministry involves money, then it will certainly invite some to be covetous. You are much safer if there is no money involved. If your ministry is involved in helping one party defeat another party in an election then you can be sure it will invite envy, ambition and pride. If Satan needs to use Delilah he will, there are many examples in the Bible of Israelites being tempted and succumbing to the temptation of the Devil.

6 But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble.

We should be very tuned into these things like pride, it is not a small thing, it exists in all of us and it must be dealt with continuously. For example if you hear "I will build this bigger and better" that is pride. It is up to the Lord, it is His ministry and He will do with it what He wills. If He wants to sacrifice it on the altar, that is His option. Do not talk about what you are going to do unless it is to pray and put your full trust in the Lord. When Charlie Kirk is killed the most common and normal response is to mourn his death. However, some will see this as an opportunity for them, now that he is dead who gets to take his place. Charlie wasn't killed simply to shut him up, he was killed because they were envious and covetous of what he had and they wanted to obtain it for themselves. So then, who obtained it?

7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

Every single person has two options, submit yourself to God or submit yourself to the enemy. Both will present themselves as god, one of course is the God who sits on the throne, but the other is the prince of this world. For example, if Donald Trump wanted to control turning point and Charlie Kirk refused to submit to him but rather to God, then the only way he could control the organization is to kill Charlie and install someone else who will submit to him. I am not saying this is what happened, what I am saying is that Turning Point needs your prayers because they are in the center of a storm and the evil one wants to take control of that organization. The name Charlie Kirk means "Man Church". What is true of his ministry is also true of every influential church in every city. The people who donate money may want to influence what goes on, FreeMasons may get onto the board of directors, people will become false prophets due to greed, ambition, or pride. If someone has a genuine ministry and does not submit to these evil forces then it will escalate to "kill" or in some way remove the person and seize control of the ministry.

8 Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded.

The reason for people succumbing to these temptations is that they are double minded. It is as though they are on the fence being pulled in two directions. The solution is to draw nigh to God, don't stay out on that fence, move into the Holy Sanctuary where Satan can't grab you. You also need to cleanse your hands, if you have done anything that can be held over you they can use that to blackmail and manipulate you. Finally, purify your heart, you are double minded because you are thinking "boy, that money sure would help" and you are justifying it by saying "we could do a lot more good with that money".

9 Be afflicted, and mourn, and weep: let your laughter be turned to mourning, and your joy to heaviness.

They always offer you two paths. Here is this great position, you will have a good salary, run a big church, and be able to "help so many people". The other path is to be afflicted, be the poor itinerant preacher. The guy who takes that job will be rejoicing, but you can choose instead to mourn. Moses refused to be called the son of Pharaoh's daughter, 25 Choosing rather to suffer affliction with the people of God, than to enjoy the pleasures of sin for a season; 26 Esteeming the reproach of Christ greater riches than the treasures in Egypt: for he had respect unto the recompence of the reward.
 
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Ok, someone needs to ban this troll in an effective way.
He's back with a vengeance . Look at the disagree "like" to read his new name.
Look at the likes on the above SJ post I commented on.

It is Intersection. I tried to tell him to take his freemason stuff to the Conspiracy section where there are plenty of topics to talk about them so that he would not get banned. I tried to do him a favor but he was too stubborn to do it. Now he takes it out on me and you, typical.
 
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The Gates of Hell shall not prevail against the builded church (part 2)

10 Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall lift you up.


Do you understand, one path is where the world will lift you up and the other is where you humble yourself refusing the honors the world would bestow, and it is the Lord who shall lift you up.

11 Speak not evil one of another, brethren. He that speaketh evil of his brother, and judgeth his brother, speaketh evil of the law, and judgeth the law: but if thou judge the law, thou art not a doer of the law, but a judge.

If you submit to the evil then you will be required to be their lackey. Now if there is a true man of God speaking they will want you to use your influence to speak evil of this brother. You chose to be a puppet of evil overlord, this is the consequence. We should all be on alert for any brother or sister who acts like a judge. None of us are the "judge". We are witnesses, God is the judge.

12 There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy: who art thou that judgest another?

Sometimes I will post a link to a video where the person is sharing something I disagree with. I have said repeatedly my criteria for posting is not whether or not I agree. The criteria is simple, is it relevant to this blog? Yes, then is it based on the Bible? Yes, then I will post it unless it is redundant and we have already discussed this. Even if it is a topic we have already discussed if it is a new perspective then that is fine. Now sometimes I will comment on things they say I disagree with, but it is not a judgment on the person, it is a discussion of the truth and Biblical interpretation. So when you see a brother set himself up as judge, that is pride and arrogance.

13 Go to now, ye that say, To day or to morrow we will go into such a city, and continue there a year, and buy and sell, and get gain: 14 Whereas ye know not what shall be on the morrow. For what is your life? It is even a vapour, that appeareth for a little time, and then vanisheth away.

This is also pride. If you say "I will build this up bigger and better" that is the display of pride. Instead say my life is a vapour, I am one with the Lord whatever He wills.

15 For that ye ought to say, If the Lord will, we shall live, and do this, or that.

This is the proper attitude. Learn these tips and you'll spot the lusts in people because out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks.

16 But now ye rejoice in your boastings: all such rejoicing is evil.

Boasting about your power, boasting about your promotion, boasting about the things you have, the things you have done, etc.

17 Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.

This conclusion only makes sense if you understand this chapter. James is brilliant this way, if you don't understand this conclusion you don't understand the chapter. Let's say I grow up thinking the goal in life is to do well in school and get a good job. I go to Harvard, I get a job as a lawyer and I win cases because that is what good, high paid lawyers do. That is not evil, simply naive. But now suppose I am a saved Christian, who has studied the word and knows the truth. I now have an opportunity to be the pastor of this big church with several thousand people in the congregation, a well funded and powerful board of directors, and what to all would appear to be a great job. But you know that the board members are FreeMasons and you know there will be strings attached to this job where you will be required to submit to them rather than to the Lord. If you take that job it is a sin.
 
Ok, someone needs to ban this troll in an effective way.
He's back with a vengeance . Look at the disagree "like" to read his new name.
Look at the likes on the above SJ post I commented on.

You know, it's getting really old having persons who have no idea how much time I give to this site every week imply that I am somehow "allowing" this troll to continue.

I have spent an insane amount of time this past week deleting literally hundreds of emojis and yet even though I have told people to quit posting about it, you guys insist on feeding the troll by letting him know he is getting under your skin.
 
You know, it's getting really old having persons who have no idea how much time I give to this site every week imply that I am somehow "allowing" this troll to continue.

I have spent an insane amount of time this past week deleting literally hundreds of emojis and yet even though I have told people to quit posting about it, you guys insist on feeding the troll by letting him know he is getting under your skin.

Fair point.
 
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The Jimmy Kimmel opening monologue was as expected. He denied he said what he said about Charlies assassin being Maga.
And amazingly,he went after the director if the FCC.

If the boycott of his show by two major affiliates,one being Sinclair, i doubt he'll last. He will blame Trump if that happens of course.
 
Well people are banned here all the time as you know.

That’s true, but defining what free speech is and how it applies here should be up to the administration of the site, not up to raging members to decide.

I expect that people having problems with me report me to the mods, and then the mods will assess the veracity of the complaint.
 
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You know, it's getting really old having persons who have no idea how much time I give to this site every week imply that I am somehow "allowing" this troll to continue.

I have spent an insane amount of time this past week deleting literally hundreds of emojis and yet even though I have told people to quit posting about it, you guys insist on feeding the troll by letting him know he is getting under your skin.
I think there are quite a few here that truly appreciate you, and the tough job you have monitoring these boards, although we may not say it often enough.
Thank you
 
That’s true, but defining what free speech is and how it applies here should be up to the administration of the site, not up to raging members to decide.

I expect that people having problems with me report me to the mods, and then the mods will assess the veracity of the complaint.


Right, which is being done. People tend to get upset when called a Nazi. Especially since this was a memorial for an assassinated young husband and father. Those of us who sat and watched it for hours were greatly moved. When his wife got up and managed to say she forgave her husbands murderer, there wasn't a dry eye in the house, and I bet it was the same for most people watching. There was a worship service. There was a testimony service, Jesus was uplifted and shared. For RA or anyone else to compare that to a Nazi rally is frankly sickening and so far out of touch that I would question if he's a believer and a follower of Christ at this point. And I seldom say that about a person. That's between him and the Lord. But his comment was beyond offensive. Again, you have free speech, but aren't free from the consequences of that speech.
 
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Right, which is being done. People tend to get upset when called a Nazi. Especially since this was a memorial for an assassinated young husband and father. Those of us who sat and watched it for hours were greatly moved. When his wife got up and managed to say she forgave her husbands murderer, there wasn't a dry eye in the house, and I bet it was the same for most people watching. There was a worship service. There was a testimony service, Jesus was uplifted and shared. For RA or anyone else to compare that to a Nazi rally is frankly sickening and so far out of touch that I would question if he's a believer and a follower of Christ at this point. And I seldom say that about a person. That's between him and the Lord. But his comment was beyond offensive. Again, you have free speech, but aren't free from the consequences of that speech.
again well said. and true

A nazi spreads propaganda.
A nazi assassinated their opponents. and anyone who went against them
A nazi murdered millions of people to try to take over the world.
A nazi took control of media and forced the media to spread their propoganda.

I can go on and on and on.

The nazi's of our time are trying to accuse those who appose it of being nazi's in an attempt to hide the fact. they are the real nazi's
 
Do not take the path where everything ends up in smoke

James 5:1 Go to now, ye rich men, weep and howl for your miseries that shall come upon you.

Life is not fair. People complain about not being rich, complain that 150 years ago their ancestors were slaves, etc. But what is fair is that every one of us will have to stand before the Lord and be judged for the things we have done. If you see the great depression coming and you are poor, well so what, not much different than today. But if you are rich, and you are about to lose everything, that fall is much harder to take.

2 Your riches are corrupted, and your garments are motheaten.

This is why these things come on us slowly, so all can see it coming. It isn't that one day they were rich and tomorrow it is all gone. No, it takes a generation, little by little the wealth is nothing but an illusion, an act. The rich become hypocrites, actors, pretending to still be rich despite knowing they are broke.

3 Your gold and silver is cankered; and the rust of them shall be a witness against you, and shall eat your flesh as it were fire. Ye have heaped treasure together for the last days.

Day by day the witnesses are gathered against you waiting for that day when you stand before the Lord. Every one of us will die at some point, our flesh will be eaten, and yet the rich are heaping treasure up as though that will help. You can't take it with you and that treasure you are heaping up thinking it will help you escape the purge, it will be a witness against you.

4 Behold, the hire of the labourers who have reaped down your fields, which is of you kept back by fraud, crieth: and the cries of them which have reaped are entered into the ears of the Lord of sabaoth.

God is a discerner of the hearts. If you care about your fellow man you would not be heaping the treasure up and you would not be scamming your workers by fraud. If you really cared about them their cries to the Lord would be a witness for your defense. James is telling them, you need to repent. What you really need is not treasure heaped up, but some witnesses for the defense. Maybe someone who will testify that you showed them mercy, maybe someone else who will testify that because of your gift to a ministry they are saved.

5 Ye have lived in pleasure on the earth, and been wanton; ye have nourished your hearts, as in a day of slaughter.

Think of every human as being a creature that God created. Every single one can turn to God, be saved, be redeemed, and become a born again child of God. That is the ultimate hope for this life. But instead of you seizing that hope you are looking at these fat cows and pigs in the feed lot that are being fattened up for the day of slaughter and being jealous of them?

6 Ye have condemned and killed the just; and he doth not resist you.

They are like a prisoner on death row waiting to be executed. The only way to deal with sins is with the blood of Jesus, if you don't humble yourself before the Lord, confess your sins and take the blood of Jesus they will not be erased. Why do you think Cain killed Abel, because he was jealous? Sure, but if Abel had a very successful business as a sheep herder do you think Cain simply killed Abel without stealing his herds? Satan is a murderer and he is a thief. When Charlie Kirk was killed sure they were jealous, they wanted to shut him up, but they also wanted his organization Turning Point. The people who killed him were also thieves as well as murderers.

7 Be patient therefore, brethren, unto the coming of the Lord. Behold, the husbandman waiteth for the precious fruit of the earth, and hath long patience for it, until he receive the early and latter rain.

The early rain refers to all the amazing things God did recorded in the Bible in bringing the people of God out of Egypt. The latter rain refers to all the amazing things God does after their journey through the wilderness in bringing them into the good land. At the beginning of the church age Acts records the early rain that the church received and the death of Stephen was a very major event. What we see at the beginning is the early rain, at the end of the church age we will see more amazing things being fulfilled as the latter rain and the death of Charlie Kirk (Charlie - Man, Kirk - Church, and his middle name James was the first apostle martyred). This event has revealed hearts because God is a discerner of hearts. We see those mourning, we see those gleefully rejoicing, and we see those who murdered him in order to steal what he had. When the rapture takes place there will be many who are in big, well funded churches but discover that they have been left behind. Why? Who was it that killed Stephen? Clearly the Jews were behind it. At the time the church was a sect of the Jewish religion, everyone in Jerusalem was Jewish, but the church were like a small messianic sect claiming that Jesus was the Messiah. It wasn't the Romans that killed Stephen, it was the Jews. Saul of Tarsus was at the center of this and it kicked off the persecution of the church from that point on. After the rapture there will be a great persecution against the church with a lot of Christians being killed. At that time they will learn they were deceived like Samson being deceived by Delilah.

8 Be ye also patient; stablish your hearts: for the coming of the Lord draweth nigh.

This is the message, you saw people gleeful that Charlie was assassinated, that was a peak behind the curtain. That lets you see how real the Antichrist spirit is and how evil it will be. It is currently being restrained, but after the rapture it will not be restrained any longer.

9 Grudge not one against another, brethren, lest ye be condemned: behold, the judge standeth before the door.

Wake up, I see all these posts on Social Media and there is a whole lot of grudging one against another.

10 Take, my brethren, the prophets, who have spoken in the name of the Lord, for an example of suffering affliction, and of patience.

When you speak the word of God there is a cost to pay, a sacrifice. You must sacrifice your ego, you must open yourself up to being mocked and ridiculed. Think about Jonah, he goes around saying in 40 days this city will be overthrown and what happens, they repent and God relents. Nineveh is saved, God is happy, and Jonah now is mocked and ridiculed.

11 Behold, we count them happy which endure. Ye have heard of the patience of Job, and have seen the end of the Lord; that the Lord is very pitiful, and of tender mercy.

Think of the Christians as during the church age as Job. We have been speaking of the coming judgment, we have chosen a path that means we will suffer affliction as we look to that day in the future while everyone we know enjoys the world, laughs at the gospel and is fattened for the day of slaughter. Two very different paths, but look at where they end up. Job's path ends up in a place that is blessed with the double portion of God while the world ends up in a place where everything goes up in smoke.
 
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