Charlie Kirk Shot

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Candice Owens has lost her flipping mind. Kirks body wasn't yet in the grave and she had Israel guilty of his murder. It's sickening. She doesn't have any special information. What conspiracy theories she drummed up were debunked by every person that attended the meeting that she herself did not attend. There is someone behind bars for shooting Kirk. If he's not the one, why is he there Candice?!
I think official inquiry should be made of Ms.Owens.
He's not the shooter?

How does she know that?
 
Nice color.

Reminds me of the red letter Bible.

You posted articles dedicated to slander and defame Erika Kirk,a Christian you claim is a Jesuit and member of the Knights of Malta.

No, I claim she went to Jesuit. college and that she wears a very unique piece of jewelry that indicates she is a member of the Knights of Malta. If you want to question what college she went to that is fine, it is public record. If you want to ask where I get that she wears this jewelry I posted a photograph of it along with a explanation of what it was.

You post articles that sully her reputation and her dead husband,and Turning Point.

I posted a link to a guy doing research who has a podcast. I did not do the research, nor am I on his editorial board. If you want to challenge his veracity by all means, but accusing me of slander and defamation of character for posting a link to this channel is in itself slander and defamation of character to me. This is what we do on the news thread, we post articles and podcasts that we then discuss.

You got it right that this Christian finds that agenda and your being accomplice to that Satanic agenda by sharing those articles here is reprehensible for anyone claiming to know Christ.

Interestingly it is only you. No one else has in the slightest responded. No one else is claiming that we cannot look at who became the CEO as a result of Charlie Kirk's assassination. You joined this forum in July and two months later you have gone ballistic with your unsubstantiated accusations. You are the one who is one with the accuser of the brethren. We have an expression for this, it is called "Over the target". For whatever reason you have done everything in your power to say that no one is allowed to talk about this.

Yes,I've been here since July. I could have joined September 9th and If still find your,not other people's, posts reprehensible.

And now,you think it's unstable for a Christian to call you out.
When,as an example,Magenta, who has been here far longer I'm sure, and says,paraphrasing,you've got a history of this kind of behavior.

Are you saying that Magenta agrees with you that we are not to talk about possible motives in the assassination of Charlie Kirk on this thread? You can call me out, I have no issue with that, what I have an issue with is you have never once said what you are calling me out on? When I finally got you to say something you accuse me of saying something I didn't say.

Which means you're allowed to continue it

Then you think others have to prove the claims you've posted aren't true!

Only if you accuse me of being a false witness or being guilty of defamation of character. Yes, if you do that then you must back up those assertions. It is libelous to publish that on this forum, so yes you must back that up.

While ignoring the post that shows some of those lies are exactly that .

What post, give me and everyone else a reference. All you have to do is say what the Post # is or hit reply to the offensive post and say "this is the post".

You post slander and defamation articles and think I have to prove they're slander and defamation?

Posting an article or podcast on this thread that is relevant to the news is not defamation of character by me. It is being put up for discussion, and yes, if you think the post is false, debunk it. But accusing me of slander and defamation because of what someone else said who I am not associated with is clearly an admission by you that your claims against me are false.

While ignoring proofs other tabloid trash posted by you are lies and defamation.
That's whacked!

Are you talking about Snopes? Yes, I ignore people who claim some person is spreading false information because Snopes says it is false. You don't get the right to decide what is true and what is false, and Snopes certainly doesn't. I have claimed that her father and mother work for various government agencies involved with defense. Her mother has a company with contract to the DOD and Homeland Security and her father works for Raytheon doing very high level work in Israel. That came from the link I posted, if you are saying that is false, by all means, provide evidence that it is false. I have shown a picture of jewelry she wears. I have mentioned the college she went to. I have said who she worked for and what she did prior to coming to Turning Point. If any of those things are not true, by all means provide evidence that they aren't.

Call me names.
I'm not the purveyor of an agenda intending to destroy a Christian widow.
You'll continue in your pattern. That history Magenta referred to .

I won't read it.

God tells us what you are about.

What name have I called you? You are the one making accusations that I am a false witness and that I am guilty, criminally, of slander and defamation of Character. I have asked you to point out what I have said that supports that. You gave a phony baloney answer, claiming I said something I never said. You have said one or two things I said were true and the rest were false, so I gave you a list of ten things I said and asked you to identify the 8 or 9 that are false. Instead you are trying to dodge that question. I am calling you out on this saying that if you don't answer this you lied when you said only one or two were true.
 
allot of this conspiracy theories is just for views as @ThereRoseaLamb said. if those organizations people claim rule the world really do exist, God already knows about them. And if it’s not in His will, then their plans will never succeed. So why should we waste time worrying about them? when in reality, God is in control.
 
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Over the Target

The term over the target is a reference to a bomber during the war. When they got over the target the flak would fill the sky indicating they are over the target. Doll's unhinged and ballistic response is an indication that this inquiry into who Erika Kirk is, is in fact "over the target".
 
allot of this conspiracy theories is just for views as @ThereRoseaLamb said. if those organizations people claim rule the world really do exist, God already knows about them. And if it’s not in His will, then their plans will never succeed. So why should we waste time worrying about them? when in reality, God is in control.
True.

I think there should be a line when those people bring their evil into a Christian community and publicly assail our sister Erika.
 
allot of this conspiracy theories is just for views as @ThereRoseaLamb said. if those organizations people claim rule the world really do exist, God already knows about them. And if it’s not in His will, then their plans will never succeed. So why should we waste time worrying about them? when in reality, God is in control.
These are valid questions.

Why did Jesus flip the table of the money changers?

Why did Jesus say that woe to those who decorated the tombs of the martyrs while admitting they were the children of those that killed them?

The entire world is under the Prince of Darkness. Jesus' kingdom was not of this world and yet the world leaders had him killed because they understood that He was a threat to their rule. World governments, the Romans, the Jewish leaders, either they are in submission and obedience to Jesus Christ the King of kings, or they are in submission and obedience to the Prince of darkness. There is no sitting on the fence. We are fighting a spiritual battle, we are not warring against the flesh, and yet Satan knows that if he loses the spiritual battle he loses everything and so he throws all the fleshly attacks at us that he can. If you are truly on the field of battle of spiritual warfare then the gates of hell will be arrayed against you. The accuser of the brethren will be arrayed against you. The illusion that these world leaders have nothing to do with the Prince of darkness will be exposed and they will be against you.

Jesus told us to take up our cross and follow Him. It is impossible to look at what that means without seeing all the worldly powers being against you. Every apostle was martyred. John was not killed, but they tried. We are told to be imitators of them.

Peter asked the rulers "is it right that I should listen to you or to God". The illusion is that it is the same thing, but when you are in the ministry and one with the fellowship of the apostles it will become clear that it is two things. I believe this is why Charlie Kirk was killed, he refused to bow to the Prince of darkness. I also feel that the purpose of the assassination was so that the Prince of Darkness could get control of Turning point, something that could not be done while Charlie was alive.
 
Candice Owens has lost her flipping mind.
That's usually what happens when somebody close to you gets killed, so.... yeah.
Kirks body wasn't yet in the grave and she had Israel guilty of his murder.
Kirk's body wasn't even cold and the FBI said they believed it was a lone gunman, so... yeah, that's sickening too.
What conspiracy theories she drummed up were debunked by every person that attended the meeting that she herself did not attend.
Were they? Because I find that very hard to believe.
There is someone behind bars for shooting Kirk. If he's not the one, why is he there Candice?!
I mean, even if he wasn't the actual shooter; he was definitely part of it; so, he's still being in jail just for being part of it.
 
These are valid questions.

Why did Jesus flip the table of the money changers?

Why did Jesus say that woe to those who decorated the tombs of the martyrs while admitting they were the children of those that killed them?

The entire world is under the Prince of Darkness. Jesus' kingdom was not of this world and yet the world leaders had him killed because they understood that He was a threat to their rule. World governments, the Romans, the Jewish leaders, either they are in submission and obedience to Jesus Christ the King of kings, or they are in submission and obedience to the Prince of darkness. There is no sitting on the fence. We are fighting a spiritual battle, we are not warring against the flesh, and yet Satan knows that if he loses the spiritual battle he loses everything and so he throws all the fleshly attacks at us that he can. If you are truly on the field of battle of spiritual warfare then the gates of hell will be arrayed against you. The accuser of the brethren will be arrayed against you. The illusion that these world leaders have nothing to do with the Prince of darkness will be exposed and they will be against you.

Jesus told us to take up our cross and follow Him. It is impossible to look at what that means without seeing all the worldly powers being against you. Every apostle was martyred. John was not killed, but they tried. We are told to be imitators of them.

Peter asked the rulers "is it right that I should listen to you or to God". The illusion is that it is the same thing, but when you are in the ministry and one with the fellowship of the apostles it will become clear that it is two things. I believe this is why Charlie Kirk was killed, he refused to bow to the Prince of darkness. I also feel that the purpose of the assassination was so that the Prince of Darkness could get control of Turning point, something that could not be done while Charlie was alive.

Jesus flipped the tables because the money changers were corrupting and exploiting God’s holy temple (Matthew 21:12-13). The Bible warns that there will be antichrists to test our faith, so we are told to test every spirit (1 John 4:1). John the Baptist called out the king for wrongdoing as a prophet. ZNP I wouldn’t say you are doing any of these things.
 
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allot of this conspiracy theories is just for views as @ThereRoseaLamb said. if those organizations people claim rule the world really do exist, God already knows about them. And if it’s not in His will, then their plans will never succeed. So why should we waste time worrying about them? when in reality, God is in control.
I think this question really deserves a more extensive answer. I went to the Charlie Kirk memorial in Glensdale largely to answer this question. It was a two day drive for me, so round trip four days on the road and I barely made it inside. In fact I think it is very likely that I wouldn't had it not been for two men who might have been angels. One led me through a crowd of more than 100,000 people to a point where I was able to make it in as one of the last people through the gate. The other handed me a bottle of water. I was sweating profusely because I had to walk three miles to the event and it was already in the 80s. Without that water I probably would have suffered heat stroke as several people around me did collapse.

So, why waste my time?

My wife asked me this. I have been doing a blog concerning the rapture and trying to examine current events in light of prophecy. To me this assassination was a big puzzle piece and I needed to get a good handle on it. I didn't think simply watching an event on Youtube would be sufficient.

I saw the connections to Stephan being martyred at the start of the church age to Charlie Kirk being martyred. His name means "Man Church". That alone is more than a coincidence and his middle name James was the name of the first apostle who was martyred. Again, no coincidence. The martyrdom of Stephen kicked off the persecution of the church in Acts and it seemed very plausible that the assassination of Charlie was going to kick off the persecution of the church during the tribulation.

I also saw the connection to Abel the first martyr as Charlie Kirk's blood was speaking even after he was killed.

I have heard a number of claims that Charlie Kirk was involved with the FreeMasons, however, I have also heard from his mouth that he is clearly, unequivocally, and boldly proclaiming that Jesus Christ is Lord and Savior. I do not care where people came from to be saved, the fact that he was saved to me is very evident. (That is also why I do not share some of the things I have heard about Erika Kirk as I am not interested in who she was but rather who she is now). However, it is relevant if he was involved with FreeMasons because even though I don't care, they do. One thing that is undeniable is that this ministry he built in a few years was a multi million dollar ministry spending tens of millions of dollars a year. In my experience that money will often come with strings attached, if you don't do as they ask they will get rid of you. If he took their money and then stood strong for the Lord Jesus to refuse to do what they ask that could be an explanation for why he was killed.

But here is my point, the takeaway for me from going to the memorial was to see the connection between Charlie's assassination and Samson. I saw the most powerful men in America stand up one by one and say they owed their victory to Charlie's Turning point organization. I hadn't realized this before but according to them Turning Point was "the strong man". It also became clear to me that Charlie's political involvement was very deep, and I compare those politicians to Delilah. He was in bed with Delilah, the deep state. I also could see from various polls that the assassination of Charlie is causing the collapse of the Democrats, just like when Samson died the temple to Dagon collapsed, when Charlie died the temple to the Democrats collapsed.
 
Jesus flipped the tables because the money changers were corrupting and exploiting God’s holy temple (Matthew 21:12-13). The Bible warns that there will be antichrists—false teachers among us—to test our faith, so we are told to test every spirit (1 John 4:1). John the Baptist called out the king for wrongdoing as a prophet. ZNP I wouldn’t say you are doing any of these things.
Would you agree that the things Charlie was combatting on college campuses were corrupting the temple of God which is the human body and which is also the church? The New Testament refers to both as the temple of God.
 
It is a sad thing that within days of this thread's origination I had to ban two users that chose to post every insane conspiracy theory that popped up literally within hours of Charlie's assassination, some of them so ridiculous only an imbecile wouldn't be able to see the poorly done AI generated video editing.

Since then it seems to have degenerated to a mud slinging contest between those who choose to post conspiracy theories that they know we have a specific forum for and those who can't just ignore the insanity.
 
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