Charlie Kirk Shot

[ZNP]

As I said , I'm glad we don't have much gun crime in the UK . We do have knife crime for sure , the vast majority of which is to do with drug gangs fighting amongst themselves , if u r not involved with them u r not likely to get hurt . As for people being arrested for ' silently praying I love bacon ' that's a new one on me . I had better b careful what I think to myself about cream cakes .
I live in one of the most deprived areas of England , in the middle of a town centre . I'm disabled and have to use crutches to walk outside . I am not afraid to leave my home alone , at any hour , and walk around my neighbourhood , which is apparently , one of the worst in the entire country . It's possible I might get mugged , if that happens I will just hand over my valuables without an argument . If someone tries to rape me they had better b prepared to kill me as I would fight that to the death . One thing I'm pretty sure of though , is that if anyone wants to hurt me , they will have to have the guts to get right up close and personal with me , eye to eye , because they won't b able to stand yards away from me and shoot me . That's a truly cowardly act .

Most gun violence is criminals and gang members shooting each other. There are exceptions, but most criminals don't want to kill civilians. Also most gun violence takes place at night, often at or near a bar. Don't hang out at bars frequented by criminals past midnight and you will find a dangerous city is in fact much safer.

 

[DeanM]

I've noticed it's mostly people in power that are pushing the "How dare you say or feel something besides what I expect you to" narrative. I think they're scared of being next. I expect this from the left; but the hypocrisy of the republicans is nauseating. Getting people fired is just going to make people angry, and in some cases give them a legitimate grievance; because while some of the reactions to his death were vile, they weren't necessarily approving of murder or calling for more violence.

If conservatives were involved in getting that msnbc mouthpiece fired dont you think they would do the same to other left wing spin doctors?

 

[DeanM]

• However in UK, You can buy and own machetes (often sold as gardening or agricultural tools).
• However, using or carrying one in public without a lawful reason (gardening, farming, etc.) is a criminal offense.

My point is. If somebody wants to kill somebody they will find a way.

 

[DeanM]

Shooting Suspect Joked His 'Doppelgänger' Killed Kirk | Newsmax.com

https://share.google/EOJbBDuOpJ6O29QAp

i wonder if he will be joking when he realizes the death penalty is in play?

 

[ZNP]

Wow, I am seeing people conflate "freedom of speech" with hateful social media posts concerning Charlie Kirks assassination. They are arguing that teachers should not be fired over these social media posts.

When I was a teacher if I posted on Social Media about Jesus Christ being Lord and the only way to the Father I would have been fired. No question about it. I wouldn't have been arrested, I wouldn't have been thrown in jail, but I sure would have lost my job. These people know that and they would have supported my being fired. This is pure hypocrisy that they think that freedom of speech protects you from getting fired from social media posts.

I sympathize with someone losing their job over one stupid online comment they make. But I don't sympathize with this hypocritical lie used to as some kind of defense. This is just an insult to all of us who had to endure their hate for decades.

 

[Suze]

Suze in another post you mentioned that you forgive a lot of comments here due to cultural differences and I commend you for that and God bless you for understanding that important aspect of our world.
I think that this is the time to forgive and respect the USA culture which is different from yours in terms of guns.

I totally do respect it for sure , but I just can't understand it . In the UK most people r terrified by just the thought of guns , nevermind the thought of having one in their home . Honestly , I'm not trying to b contentious and I do respect your culture but , our attitude in the UK is the opposite to yours when it comes to guns . We genuinely do have a culture that actually respects some one who doesn't use weapons and defends themselves physically without them , it's how we were brought up , if u can't defend yourself without using a weapon then u r either a coward or a bully or a dirty fighter . Now this might not b the attitude of everyone who was NOT born and bred in the UK , I can't speak for them . But those of us who were born and bred here , were born into a culture that does not respect anyone who uses weapons against someone else . That's who we r . We r allowed to b different for sure , I'm glad I'm here and I'm sure that u r glad to b living in your country . May God bless us all and may we all live in peace and truth together , in God's Kingdom .

 

[Eli1]

I totally do respect it for sure , but I just can't understand it . In the UK most people r terrified by just the thought of guns , nevermind the thought of having one in their home . Honestly , I'm not trying to b contentious and I do respect your culture but , our attitude in the UK is the opposite to yours when it comes to guns . We genuinely do have a culture that actually respects some one who doesn't use weapons and defends themselves physically without them , it's how we were brought up , if u can't defend yourself without using a weapon then u r either a coward or a bully or a dirty fighter . Now this might not b the attitude of everyone who was NOT born and bred in the UK , I can't speak for them . But those of us who were born and bred here , were born into a culture that does not respect anyone who uses weapons against someone else . That's who we r . We r allowed to b different for sure , I'm glad I'm here and I'm sure that u r glad to b living in your country . May God bless us all and may we all live in peace and truth together , in God's Kingdom .

May God bless you Suze and bring you health and happiness.
I don’t understand why you folks drive on the wrong side of the road either but I respect it and in fact I avoid it altogether by not going to England.

 

[shittim]

I'm so glad that guns and gun crime r very rare in the UK . We have very strict gun laws . I'm so sorry for Mr Kirk and his family , heartbreaking for them all . Been reading an article in the New York Times about his beliefs and he was very pro gun . He actually said that the way to reduce gun crime was to : put guns into the hands of more Americans and that the sad abuses of gun ownership were worth the price so that we can enjoy our God given right of the second amendment .
It's something that most British citizens just don't understand about America . We do get gun violence here but it's a rare and shocking thing when it occurs , our culture deplores the use and ownership of guns as cowardly . There's a cultural thing here where if u have a problem with someone , stand up and fight it out , no weapons and Queensbury Rules , even the women ! Handbags and hair pulling at twenty paces ! .

So thankful as well you are not experiencing these things, we don't either to the point the main stream media wants us to believe to further their agenda.
The Bill of Rights is a wonderful document.
blessings

 

[ZNP]

i wonder if he will be joking when he realizes the death penalty is in play?

I would suspect that at this point the most promising legal strategy is insanity, and behaving in a way that indicates you are clueless is a valid strategy for the defense.

 

[camochica8]

As I said , I'm glad we don't have much gun crime in the UK . We do have knife crime for sure , the vast majority of which is to do with drug gangs fighting amongst themselves , if u r not involved with them u r not likely to get hurt . As for people being arrested for ' silently praying I love bacon ' that's a new one on me . I had better b careful what I think to myself about cream cakes .
I live in one of the most deprived areas of England , in the middle of a town centre . I'm disabled and have to use crutches to walk outside . I am not afraid to leave my home alone , at any hour , and walk around my neighbourhood , which is apparently , one of the worst in the entire country . It's possible I might get mugged , if that happens I will just hand over my valuables without an argument . If someone tries to rape me they had better b prepared to kill me as I would fight that to the death . One thing I'm pretty sure of though , is that if anyone wants to hurt me , they will have to have the guts to get right up close and personal with me , eye to eye , because they won't b able to stand yards away from me and shoot me . That's a truly cowardly act .

But for real? you get arrested for calling someone a "muppet"??

 

[shittim]

Yep, that's what happens when you don't have a 2nd Amendment, it seems.

 

[pinebeach]

Apparently a rich guy called Brian Kilmeade literally just suggested "involuntary lethal injection" for homeless people on FOX news.... Which IMO, does kinda actually cross a free speech line; but it's not like somebody can fire him, and I doubt we will see republicans call for him to be stripped of his wealth.

You have a link for that?

 

[Citizen]

I am not afraid to leave my home alone , at any hour , and walk around my neighbourhood , which is apparently , one of the worst in the entire country.

And that's great for you, but it's not the case or reality for others, as the statistics prove. I may live in a [relatively] lower crime area but it doesn't stop me from worrying about others living a different reality. I want them to be able to defend themselves and will continue to vote and speak out for their right to do so. That is part of loving my neighbor.

The overall point, though, is that inanimate guns are not the problem, just as inanimate knives are not the problem. Until people wake up and address the actual problem, which is violent criminals, nothing will change and the innocent will continue to be killed. Slapping bans on everything is clearly not the way.

One thing I'm pretty sure of though , is that if anyone wants to hurt me , they will have to have the guts to get right up close and personal with me , eye to eye , because they won't b able to stand yards away from me and shoot me . That's a truly cowardly act .

But surely you can't ignore the rising gun crime there, either, in spite of all the laws and bans. Those with illegal guns don't care about the law, and their victims can't defend themselves.

"Gun crime is an escalating issue in the UK, posing a serious threat to public safety and community well-being. While knife crime continues to be a major concern, the rise of illegally imported firearms, converted blank-firing guns, and even 3D-printed weapons has added a dangerous new dimension to violent crime. With criminals using these weapons in both urban and rural areas, the impact of gun crime is being felt across the country." link

 

[Suze]

So thankful as well you are not experiencing these things, we don't either to the point the main stream media wants us to believe to further their agenda.
The Bill of Rights is a wonderful document.
blessings

Yes ! So many things on the internet r either exaggerated or completely made up , we all need to remember this , me included .

 

[Suze]

But for real? you get arrested for calling someone a "muppet"??

I've been called and have called others , much worse than that and I've not been arrested or , known anyone who has and yes , to call some people Muppets , would indeed b a complement to them .

 

[Suze]

I can ignore

And that's great for you, but it's not the case or reality for others, as the statistics prove. I may live in a [relatively] lower crime area but it doesn't stop me from worrying about others with a different reality. I want them to be able to defend themselves and will continue to vote and speak out for their right to do so. That is part of loving my neighbor.

The overall point, though, is that inanimate guns are not the problem, just as inanimate knives are not the problem. Until people wake up and address the actual problem, which is violent criminals, nothing will change and the innocent will continue to be killed. Slapping bans on everything is clearly not the way.



But surely you can't ignore the rising gun crime there, either, in spite of all the laws and bans. Those with illegal guns don't care about the law, and their victims can't defend themselves.

"Gun crime is an escalating issue in the UK, posing a serious threat to public safety and community well-being. While knife crime continues to be a major concern, the rise of illegally imported firearms, converted blank-firing guns, and even 3D-printed weapons has added a dangerous new dimension to violent crime. With criminals using these weapons in both urban and rural areas, the impact of gun crime is being felt across the country." link

I can ignore the rising gun crime because it's just not happening here , at least not where I live . Where it exists it's mostly drug gangs killing each other, a hazard of their chosen profession I think .

 

[shittim]

And lifestyle, Jesus doesn't guide people to do the devils work.
many of us here were post ww2 generation, Curtis LeMay embodied how that changed the thinking of many who lived through WW2.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5Y_8iUJrD1A

 

[Citizen]

I can ignore the rising gun crime because it's just not happening here , at least not where I live . Where it exists it's mostly drug gangs killing each other, a hazard of their chosen profession I think .

This is exactly why innocent people will continue to be robbed, raped, beaten, and murdered. We should care whether it affects us or not. We should care about others in less fortunate situations.

 

[Doll]

This event is helping to remove the scales from the eyes of so many.

God willing.

 

[Citizen]

Most gun violence is criminals and gang members shooting each other...

There are people afraid to go to their local grocery stores in some cities, though. Armed robberies and other crimes against regular citizens are out of control. Hearing DC residents' stories and seeing them thankful for the NG was a glimmer of hope. I was so happy for them.

Best message I've heard lately is "We don't have to live like this". I believe that is true and crime can be tackled if the general public has the courage and will to do so.