Charlie Kirk Shot

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You wrote: "I dunno. I've had a sneaking suspension for a while that there's really bad fruit in that area that we dont know about."

Directly or indirectly, you are. That's fine if you have evidence to present. Just state your case clearly.

Frankly, I think Mormonism is darkness and that darkness in some form(s) can't help but be expressed in areas they control. So like I said, it's something to keep an eye on.
 
Frankly, I think Mormonism is darkness and that darkness in some form(s) can't help but be expressed in areas they control. So like I said, it's something to keep an eye on.

Fair enough, but I'm asking for specific evidence that Tyler Robinson was influenced and pushed by mormonism rather than leftist ideology. Do you have that to present? if so, I'm open to hearing it. If not, this is just vague hearsay and false accusations.
 
Fair enough, but I'm asking for specific evidence that Tyler Robinson was influenced and pushed by mormonism rather than leftist ideology. Do you have that to present? if so, I'm open to hearing it. If not, this is just vague hearsay and false accusations.

For some reason you're purposely trying to read into this more than I have claimed. I have not uttered any hearsay or false accusations.
 
For some reason you're purposely trying to read into this more than I have claimed. I have not uttered any hearsay or false accusations.

You've implied several times that mormonism could be involved in the assassination, and I've asked you to back that up with evidence for discussion. If you can't do that, then yes, it's vague hearsay and a false accusation.

It's fine to say "There could be a connection between mormonism...". It's not fine to drop that down then walk away from it with zero explanation when asked for one. Same vibe -

"I think ChristRoseFromTheDead could be tied to an extreme activist group. Lots of darkness. Maybe there's something there, maybe not. Don't know, but there it is to consider. No evidence, though, so don't ask."
 
It's fine to say "There could be a connection between mormonism...". It's not fine to drop that down then walk away from it with zero explanation when asked for one. Same vibe -

"I think ChristRoseFromTheDead could be tied to an extreme activist group. Lots of darkness. Maybe there's something there, maybe not. Don't know, but there it is to consider. No evidence, though, so don't ask."

Do you deny that Mormonism is a work of spiritual darkness?
 
No I haven't. I openly wondered if the mormon spirit could be influencing the evil in some way.
Do you deny that Mormonism is a work of spiritual darkness?

How is this not implying mormonism could have something to do with it?? Anyway -

Mormonism has it's own set of issues, but I don't see leftist/progressive/transgender ideology as being one of them. Unless I see evidence to the contrary, they are a separate set of issues.
 
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How is this not implying mormonism could have something to do with it?? Anyway -

Yeah I'm wondering if somehow there's a connection. Not with Mormonism per se, but in some other regard related to it. I was puzzled at first that a young man who was raised in a Christian family, went to church all of his life, was a top student and probably a hunter due to his marksman skills could do something so evil like this. I mean it's conceivable, but still very odd. When I realized he was raised Mormon, ie, not Christian, I was like - Oh.... hmm... OK that would make more sense. Going to have to explore this a bit.
 
We would certainly weep for Cenk Uygher, we have watched his entire career from the beginning.
I'd probably not weep much and say something like "All must repent or you will likewise perish"; and that goes for anybody else that peddles abortion and other wickedness for profit. And saying so is not advocating, or supporting the murder of anyone; it is simply a principle that needs be recognized. Liberals et. al. would call what I am saying "victim blaming" and perhaps it is; but sometimes our own folly causes us to fall victim to someone more wicked than ourselves.

The people celebrating his death were trying to say He who sows iniquity will reap calamity against CK; but can't do it right, because they err concerning righteousness.
 
Yeah I'm wondering if somehow there's a connection. Not with Mormonism per se, but in some other regard related to it. I was puzzled at first that a young man who was raised in a Christian family, went to church all of his life, was a top student and probably a hunter due to his marksman skills could do something so evil like this. I mean it's conceivable, but still very odd. When I realized he was raised Mormon, ie, not Christian, I was like - Oh.... hmm... OK that would make more sense. Going to have to explore this a bit.


Just a little something to help you in your....quest.

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I'd probably not weep much and say something like "All must repent or you will likewise perish"; and that goes for anybody else that peddles abortion and other wickedness for profit. And saying so is not advocating, or supporting the murder of anyone; it is simply a principle that needs be recognized. Liberals et. al. would call what I am saying "victim blaming" and perhaps it is; but sometimes our own folly causes us to fall victim to someone more wicked than ourselves.

The people celebrating his death were trying to say He who sows iniquity will reap calamity against CK; but can't do it right, because they err concerning righteousness.


Oh I didn't say Cenk was going to enter paradise, obviously being an atheist means he will certainly be cast into hellfire unless he escapes from the Kingdom of the Lies and converts to the Kingdom of God, but still, I would feel bad if he died in the same manner as Charlie Kirk for exactly the same reason as Kirk because I saw the start of their careers from the start back in their days of being just the gritty underdogs and rising to the top.
 
I have to say , as an outsider ( a non American ) I'm honestly a bit shocked and definitely saddened by how divided u guys seem to b as a nation 😞 . Is it as bad as it seems or has this awful incident just heightened things temporarily ?
We definitely have our divisions in the UK . At the moment we have a slightly left of centre government ( just over one year now ) but prior to that we had a right wing government for 14 years and they have left this nation in a terrible state , financially and socially . It seems to me that no party gets everything right , they all mess things up . The only time any of us will know real peace and truth is when there r no human governments and Christ rules the nations . Thy Kingdom Come . As Christians we must unite in Christ and in the love and mercy of God . Wether we live or die we r his , that's all that matters ❤️ .
 
I have to say , as an outsider ( a non American ) I'm honestly a bit shocked and definitely saddened by how divided u guys seem to b as a nation 😞 . Is it as bad as it seems or has this awful incident just heightened things temporarily ?

Just curious. Do you support the current government?
 
I have to say , as an outsider ( a non American ) I'm honestly a bit shocked and definitely saddened by how divided u guys seem to b as a nation 😞 . Is it as bad as it seems or has this awful incident just heightened things temporarily ?

So many people have felt God at work in the aftermath of an absolute tragedy and are coming together. So many people have seen absolute evil at work and are denouncing it, even life long democrats. So many people even around the world are openly recognizing and supporting what Charlie Kirk stood for - freedom to worship the Lord Jesus Christ, freedom of speech, freedom to defend yourself and loved ones against criminals, common sense policy, and turning the U.S. around and back to God. I see no negatives in that.
 
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Just curious. Do you support the current government?
I don't support any government , I don't vote or take any part in politics at all . God and Jesus r my presidents , prime minister's , kings , parents etc . They r my rulers and I go by their rules , non of the government's of this planet will b able to stand against God's Kingdom , that's my home , that's where I belong , that's what I'm waiting for and that's where my heart and allegiance r . We Christians r not of this world , we belong elsewhere , we have to physically live here for now but , we shouldn't b conformed to this world , it's not our home ! It's not where we belong ! ❤️
 
We definitely have our divisions in the UK .
Yeah, I was thinking the feeling is definitely mutual; because from what I understand there is even worse crises taking place in the UK and has been since even before 2019. Awhile ago somebody was here on CC talking about television tax; and I was like WHAT IS THAT!? I don't even like television for the most part; but it's kinda like a radio, you keep one around just in case. I know Brexit was a big deal; but it was just a small step towards greater necessary steps, kinda like our last election was. Both the US and the UK have a lot of work to do.
 
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