Charles Stanley Correction
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I do not know what video you are talking about...
Ah, I just checked the OP now. But no, I have not watched the video.
Yeah on this page number 5 is when I made my first post. But I watched the video first and then responded to what is said on it.
51 minutes ago
Oh wow, I didn't realize I made enough posts to create a new page. That post 51 minutes ago is my first post after I watched the video.
Yes, why you don't accept this?
If you claim this is old testament - WHERE is this taught in the OT?
The prayer of faith saved and continually saves me from being sick so it applies to me since Jesus took all my sickness and disease on the Cross so I wouldn't have to accept them.
Correct Jesus never casts them out but WE have the ability to turn and walk away from the Lord causing ourselves to no longer be abiding in Christ and end up being lost unless we repent and get back in right standing with Him.
This is why there are warnings in God's Word proving osas is not true such as these rwo verses:
2 Peter 2:20
For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
James 5:19,20
Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and one convert him;
Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.
?: Hmmm, what do you "call these"?:
"Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are
sanctified in Christ Jesus, called saints, with all that in every
place call upon The Name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs
and ours" (1 Corinthians 1:2 AV)
+"And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual,
but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ."
(1 Corinthians 3:1 AV)
carnal "babes In Christ" saints, who are "unrighteous and Condemned"?Or?:
Have God's Eternal Salvation Based On Christ's BLOOD, not behavior?:
"To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh,
that the spirit may Be Saved in The Day of the Lord Jesus."
(1 Corinthians 5:5 AV) What Day?:
The Judgment Seat Of Christ! which teaches:
"If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss:
but he himself Shall Be Saved; yet so as by fire."
(1 Corinthians 3:14-15 AV)
"Bad behavior works" burned up, but the "spirit SAVED By The Christ's Precious BLOOD, Unto God's Eternal Salvation," Correct?
Amen.
I said "changed." I believe the process of being changed is past being a babe, "jmo."
I know some are instantly changed but most go through a process. But they eventually reach a point of being "changed." It's the "changed person" that is being mentioned in the video. I disagree with Stanley on that.
I heard of a case at CC Philly where two young female heroin addicts received Christ for salvation, and subsequently died the next day from an overdose.
I am of the resolute indefectible indefatigible position that if indeed those ladies did receive their Savior as Lord and redeemer, then they were certainly saved for eternity. There was no delay, no transition period, no post salvation rehab proofing......a spiritual reality not bounded by time, unaffected by anything in this creation.
The Covenant, once received, cannot possibly be broken. It is impossible for Christ to lose one of His own.
As regards the truly saved, the change so-called is spiritual and instantaneous.
Of course I do agree that some fruit will be born by those who persist in this earthly pilgrimage.
John 8:31 et. al.
Lol......."completely changed"?
I don't know about you but I am well aware of the fact that I am certainly not "completely changed". Not by a longshot. Because it would take and eternity.
Whatever the earthly vicissitudes......
We can lean on Second Timothy 1:12, just like Paul did.
No, they were not saved because they turned away from the Lord, rejecting Jesus, and went back to their sin. They knew doing dope was a sin and they decided to reject the Lord to go back and do their dope.
They counted the blood of the covenant that had sanctified them to be an an unholy thing and despised the Spirit of grace by going back to their sin turning away from Son of God. Jesus did not forsake them, they forsook Him.
Galatians 6:7-8 (see Gen 8:22)
Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
God gave man free will... if man chooses to turn and walk away from the Lord, God will let them do so.
Hebrews 10:26-31
For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.
It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
To say one can turn away from the Lord and go back to living in sin and still be saved is turning the grace turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness
The Lord gives us His definition of grace in His Word:
Titus 2:11,12
For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,
Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;
Christians are to turn away from ungodliness and worldly lusts and live soberly and and these folks did not do that.
Jesus did not lose any of the marbles that were given to Him, but some marbles jump u and run away and the Lord goes after them telling them to come back, to repent and get back in right standing.
He cannot FORCE any of the marbles to stay if they refuse to stay and choose to walk away as these folks did.
This is because God created man in His Image which is how we go free will.
2 Corinthians 5:17
Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
Any reason why you choose to not believe 2 Corinthians 5:17 applies to you?
Have you become born again yet?
If so, then 2 Corinthians 5:17 ahould apply to you and you should now be IN CHRIST
If one decides to turn away from the Lord and go back to their sin, then thier own decision causes them to no longer be IN CHRIST