CESSATIONISM AND HEALING

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Sudakar said:
Are you denying God heals physically? If not you must understand He values physical healing.
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No I do not deny that he regulates corruption. In dying dead never to rise as the wage of sin the first death. He gives us a goal 70 years or so. Lowered that from 900 and then some..

We have the privileges' and honor to pray to search out a matter. knowing he heals all without respect of the person's corrupted flesh and blood.

Whey make the apostles into gods in the likeness of men? That would seem to violate the first commandment not to have gods before him in the likeness of men.

Do you belong to or under the teaching ministry of the One Good Master if not how do you hear what the Spirt says to us?
 
garee said:
No I do not deny that he regulates corruption. In dying dead never to rise as the wage of sin the first death. He gives us a goal 70 years or so. Lowered that from 900 and then some..

We have the privileges' and honor to pray to search out a matter. knowing he heals all without respect of the person's corrupted flesh and blood.

Whey make the apostles into gods in the likeness of men? That would seem to violate the first commandment not to have gods before him in the likeness of men.

Do you belong to or under the teaching ministry of the One Good Master if not how do you hear what the Spirt says to us?
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Yoy don't belong to or under the teaching ministry of the One Good Master. Why? Because though you don't deny God heals, you deny it is because He values physical healing.

Secondly you hold to the heresy of denying healing in Christ's atonement.

You are a hindrance to the faith of Christians. You promote healing from God apart from Christ's Mediatorship.
 
Sudakar said:
Yoy don't belong to or under the teaching ministry of the One Good Master. Why? Because though you don't deny God heals, you deny it is because He values physical healing.
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That argument is nonsensical.

Sudakar said:
Secondly you hold to the heresy of denying healing in Christ's atonement.
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Actually, Garee did not deny healing in Christ's atonement. However, in keeping with the pattern of your responses to others, you are quick to decry anyone who doesn't immediately and wholeheartedly agree with your view.
 
Dino246 said:
That argument is nonsensical.


Actually, Garee did not deny healing in Christ's atonement. However, in keeping with the pattern of your responses to others, you are quick to decry anyone who doesn't immediately and wholeheartedly agree with your view.
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In which post did he agree to healing in Christ's atonement?

If you can't show it, then don't keep posting stupid replies and/or beg the question.
 
Sudakar said:
Yoy don't belong to or under the teaching ministry of the One Good Master. Why? Because though you don't deny God heals, you deny it is because He values physical healing.

Secondly you hold to the heresy of denying healing in Christ's atonement.

You are a hindrance to the faith of Christians. You promote healing from God apart from Christ's Mediatorship.
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It has some value. Keeping a person alive to carry out the death sentence. We are the temple.

It gave John the Baptist the power from within to move forward knowing he has the right person of faith that brings his gospel to the faithless poor . every temporal healing in that parable lead to the conclusion

To the poor, spiritually bankrupt as orphans and widows the gospel is preached.

Luke 7:22 Then Jesus answering said unto them, Go your way, and tell John what things ye have seen and heard; how that the blind see, the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, to the poor the gospel is preached.

That's some value but just like Jesus said of his flesh it profits for zero . Its his words that provide the living power to work in us to both will and perform the good pleasure. So the things seen have value but cannot profit as spirit life giving.

Faith has to do with eternal healing. Calling a doctor who is trained by the wisdom of God works the best for the temporal healing with prayer Again God uses the temporal so that we can work with him until we receive the eternal bodies

Why make men into gods in the likeness of men?
 
Sudakar said:
Yoy don't belong to or under the teaching ministry of the One Good Master. Why? Because though you don't deny God heals, you deny it is because He values physical healing.

Secondly you hold to the heresy of denying healing in Christ's atonement.

You are a hindrance to the faith of Christians. You promote healing from God apart from Christ's Mediatorship.
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Is this what you tell those who are physically sick, sir?
 
Sudakar said:
Yoy don't belong to or under the teaching ministry of the One Good Master. Why? Because though you don't deny God heals, you deny it is because He values physical healing.

Secondly you hold to the heresy of denying healing in Christ's atonement.

You are a hindrance to the faith of Christians. You promote healing from God apart from Christ's Mediatorship.
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I would think before suggesting someone is a hindrance to the faith. learn how that exclusive faith works in them . Where it comes from and who does it glorify. You are suggesting we make the apostles gods in the likeness of men by saying men have some part in the healing.
 
Sudakar said:
In which post did he agree to healing in Christ's atonement?

If you can't show it, then don't keep posting stupid replies and/or beg the question.
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Your comments reflect only on you.

When you develop the intelligence and maturity to treat others with respect, you will earn respect. Presently, you are earning contempt.
 
garee said:
It has some value. Keeping a person alive to carry out the death sentence. We are the temple.

It gave John the Baptist the power from within to move forward knowing he has the right person of faith that brings his gospel to the faithless poor . every temporal healing in that parable lead to the conclusion

To the poor, spiritually bankrupt as orphans and widows the gospel is preached.

Luke 7:22 Then Jesus answering said unto them, Go your way, and tell John what things ye have seen and heard; how that the blind see, the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, to the poor the gospel is preached.

That's some value but just like Jesus said of his flesh it profits for zero . Its his words that provide the living power to work in us to both will and perform the good pleasure. So the things seen have value but cannot profit as spirit life giving.

Faith has to do with eternal healing. Calling a doctor who is trained by the wisdom of God works the best for the temporal healing with prayer Again God uses the temporal so that we can work with him until we receive the eternal bodies

Why make men into gods in the likeness of men?
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God heals because He values physical healing. You denied it earlier.

God doesn't give wisdom to medical doctors for you to deny God's healing through Christ's atonement.

Faith for healing has value. Don't deny it.
 
garee said:
I would think before suggesting someone is a hindrance to the faith. learn how that exclusive faith works in them . Where it comes from and who does it glorify. You are suggesting we make the apostles gods in the likeness of men by saying men have some part in the healing.
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You make medical doctors as gods in the likeness of men by saying doctors have some part in the healing.

You are glorifying doctors and denying Christ's atonement.
 
Sudakar said:
You make medical doctors as gods in the likeness of men by saying doctors have some part in the healing.

You are glorifying doctors and denying Christ's atonement.
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It is you that glorify hands making gods in the likeness of men. I glory in the unseen Spirit that moves the hands and mind.
Atonement for what? Carrying out suffering of the wage of sin? Peter tried to prevent that. . forbidding Jesus from paying that dept. The father rebuked the Satan .

You make medical doctors as gods in the likeness of men by saying doctors have some part in the healing apart from God .
 
Sudakar said:
You make medical doctors as gods in the likeness of men by saying doctors have some part in the healing.

You are glorifying doctors and denying Christ's atonement.
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And you put God to the test and sit in the seat above GOD´S judgement in suggesting that a person who is sick, who might possibly need a surgery , or medication, to correct something, does not NEED a Doctor at all...and by going to the Doctor, they deny CHRIST.
 
Not only that, you deny Romans 14 and are the risk of causing YOUR own brothers/sisters to stumble and sin..

Everything is permissible...but not everything is beneficial...
Doctors ARE permissible...and no man, going to a doctor, has glorified the doctor over and above CHRIST.

Thankfully sir, you won´t be able to judge the hearts of men...
 
Sudakar said:
On whose mediatorship (basis) is physical healing given by God in view of God's plan to glorify His Son in everything?
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I believed' that our heavenly father because He loves his children, bestow spiritual gifts to His children. Some have gifts of chasing out demons, some spiritual healing, some prophecy In this aspect, I also believed that Gd give knowledge to His children to cure covid 19 also. But this does not take away the glory of Christ.
 
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