CESSATIONISM AND HEALING

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Sudakar said:
Your interpretation of scripture betrays your opinions.
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Thankfully your interpretation of your brothers/sisters heart is YOUR opinion
Thankfully, we were told not to judge anything before the time
Thankfully, HE will reveal the heart and the secret motives of the heart....
Thankfully, HE sees where no man can see...
 
Sudakar said:
"Through Christ" means trusting only in the merits of Jesus. When you deny healing through faith in Christ's atonement, you are denying Christ's merits.
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Sir, read the bible...
CHRIST is THE MEDIATOR...it is ONLY THROUGH CHRIST that we come to the FATHER...if you aint wearing the RIGHT GARMENT, you can not come up to the throne, for your nakedness will be exposed...

Do YOU understand that we are ALREADY COVERED??????????
How many GARMENTS do we need?


ONE.
 
Sudakar said:
What happens when a mother prays and prays for her baby to be healed, but the baby is not healed?
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Are you saying Jesus lied in Mark 9:23? Faith is tested for a period but healing is certain.[/QUOTE]
Not Jesus lied, but it seems that your way of understanding is wrong.

Ore would you also claim that you can fly like a bird, because what Jesus said in Mark 9.23 ?
 
miknik5 said:
Should I remember to remind mothers of children that are born less than perfect that they did not have enough faith....
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2 Thessalonians 1: 3: "your faith grows exceedingly". God desires growth in faith. Don't justify little faith because faith alone pleases God.
 
wolfwint said:
Are you saying Jesus lied in Mark 9:23? Faith is tested for a period but healing is certain.
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Not Jesus lied, but it seems that your way of understanding is wrong.

Ore would you also claim that you can fly like a bird, because what Jesus said in Mark 9.23 ?[/QUOTE]

Are you inviting Jesus for a challenge? Remember, He made Peter walk on water! Don't rebel.
 
Sudakar said:
"Through Christ" means trusting only in the merits of Jesus. When you deny healing through faith in Christ's atonement, you are denying Christ's merits.
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How did you think one came to the throne of GOD sir but by wearing the RIGHT GARMENT sir...which we did NOT put on ourselves....
 
Sudakar said:
2 Thessalonians 1: 3: "your faith grows exceedingly". God desires growth in faith. Don't justify little faith because faith alone pleases God.
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Hereś the TRUTH of that sir.

The righteous (those covered in THE ROYAL ROBES OF HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS) live by faith

When a person goes through storms of life, they will come back to this one truth...what they began in, is what they will end in...


From FAITH ------------------------------------ >to FAITH
From FIRST-------------------------------------->to LAST

We aren´t growing in OUR FAITH sir, but in OUR KNOWLEDGE sir...grow up into THE HEAD unto all knowledge of THE SON OF GOD...
Then you will see that what we began in is what we will end in....FAITH...thatś it...it will result in HIS GLORY ALONE



Lord, increase my faith? Really, sir...HE already said, faith even the size of a mustard seed, is FAITH...if it is directed in and on CHRIST JESUS....
 
miknik5 said:
Sir, read the bible...
CHRIST is THE MEDIATOR...it is ONLY THROUGH CHRIST that we come to the FATHER...if you aint wearing the RIGHT GARMENT, you can not come up to the throne, for your nakedness will be exposed...

Do YOU understand that we are ALREADY COVERED??????????
How many GARMENTS do we need?


ONE.
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Christ's atonement provides the garment and the healing.
 
miknik5 said:
Hereś the TRUTH of that sir.

The righteous (those covered in THE ROYAL ROBES OF HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS) live by faith

From FAITH ------------------------------------ >to FAITH
From FIRST-------------------------------------->to LAST


We aren´t to grow in OUR FAITH sir, but in OUR KNOWLEDGE sir...grow up into THE HEAD unto all knowledge of THE SON OF GOD...
Then you will see that what we began in is what we will end in....FAITH...



Lord, increase my faith? Really, sir...HE already said, faith even the size of a mustard seed, is FAITH...if it is directed in and on CHRIST JESUS....
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Believe the mustard seed like faith can heal any condition. Don't ask silly questions like "can you fly like a bird" when you know Jesus made Peter to walk on water!
 
GOD is the one who purifies sir, and launders, and refines...but purifying does not always mean PHYSICAL PERFECTION...HE refines so that OUR FAITH, more precious than gold though tried in the fire, will prove genuine...resting entirely IN HIM in all seasons...whether seasons of sun or seasons of rain, and will result in HIS PRAISE AND GLORY alone....

You, sir are talking to someone whose daughter WAS.....WAS.....WAS....sick...but is sick NO MORE....

I went to the doctor AND I NEVER NEGLECTED PRAYER.
 
Sudakar said:
Christ's atonement provides the garment and the healing.
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How many garments are needed....are you saying HE takes the GARMENT off and requires us to ask to be BAPTIZED again before we begin to pray for physical healing>???

We were washed sir....we were washed ONCE...for there is only ONE BAPTISM...and when one is BAPTIZED into CHRIST...oh, sir...they know it....
 
miknik5 said:
So you state that GOD heals unbelievers sir...who do NOT even call out to HIM...and yet, you shed a poor light on OUR FATHER, as though, when HIS OWN CHILDREN, purchased by HIS SON, call out to HIM, HE does not listen???????
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The Father wants christians only through the name of Christ's merits which Christ accomplished in the atonement.
 
miknik5 said:
GOD is the one who purifies sir, and launders, and refines...but purifying does not always mean PHYSICAL PERFECTION...HE refines so that OUR FAITH, more precious than gold though tried in the fire, will prove genuine...resting entirely IN HIM in all seasons...whether seasons of sun or seasons of rain, and will result in HIS PRAISE AND GLORY alone....

You, sir are talking to someone whose daughter WAS.....WAS.....WAS....sick...but is sick NO MORE....

I went to the doctor AND I NEVER NEGLECTED PRAYER.
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Refined faith doesn't tempt God by asking me "can you fly like a bird?"
 
miknik5 said:
How many garments are needed....are you saying HE takes the GARMENT off and requires us to ask to be BAPTIZED again before we begin to pray for physical healing>???

We were washed sir....we were washed ONCE...for there is only ONE BAPTISM...and when one is BAPTIZED into CHRIST...oh, sir...they know it....
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Avoid justifying little faith. That's more important.
 
Sudakar said:
Not Jesus lied, but it seems that your way of understanding is wrong.

Ore would you also claim that you can fly like a bird, because what Jesus said in Mark 9.23 ?
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Are you inviting Jesus for a challenge? Remember, He made Peter walk on water! Don't rebel.[/QUOTE]

Then Jump from the Empire State building and claim to can fly. According Mark 9,23 you can do this.
If you cant fly, your faith was not great enough.

Nothing else is what you claim about physical healing.
 
Sudakar said:
Refined faith doesn't tempt God by asking me "can you fly like a bird?"
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It sure does...tempt GOD

IF CHRIST, when HE was taken into the wilderness would not do these things and FOREWARNED us not to, who are YOU to even suggest it on an open forum to people who are listening and THINKING you know what you are saying...

This, sir...this above comment, is VERY TELLING That you do not know what you profess to THINK you know

Please review Matthew 4
 
wolfwint said:
Are you inviting Jesus for a challenge? Remember, He made Peter walk on water! Don't rebel

Then Jump from the Empire State building and claim to can fly. According Mark 9,23 you can do this.
If you cant fly, your faith was not great enough.

Nothing else is what you claim about physical healing.
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He should be reminded of Matthew 4
 
Sudakar said:
Simply saying ridiculous without stating the reason is indeed ridiculous!
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I don't to, the comment you have made is as such. You have already been given much refute from the word of God. yet you do not want to accept it. What other response is needed? Again your comment is ridiculous and unbiblical and error.
 
posts 412, 420, 423, 436 and 438 somehow got scrambled attributing responses to the wrong person
 
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