Catholicism vs Protestantism
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the site that you linked to presents as part of its "evidence" a message channeled by a spirit medium:
"After reading the book, I came across a channeled message titled "Manipulation of Religious Traditions and Beliefs" that parallels the findings of Putnam and Horn."
https://exemplore.com/ufos-aliens/An-Alien-God-is-Coming-and-Vatican-is-Ready-for-Him
I don't think that's a very reliable source.
another article from the same website has the title
"How to Read Birds as Omens and Signs"
https://exemplore.com/spirit-animals/birds-as-omens-and-signs
"After reading the book, I came across a channeled message titled "Manipulation of Religious Traditions and Beliefs" that parallels the findings of Putnam and Horn."
https://exemplore.com/ufos-aliens/An-Alien-God-is-Coming-and-Vatican-is-Ready-for-Him
I don't think that's a very reliable source.
another article from the same website has the title
"How to Read Birds as Omens and Signs"
https://exemplore.com/spirit-animals/birds-as-omens-and-signs
well, one reason I believe it is not reliable is that, as I said,
presents as part of its "evidence" a message channeled by a spirit medium.
another reason that I gave is that it has articles with titles like
"How to Read Birds as Omens and Signs"
for are you asking about the worldwide web in general?
I believe it is often not reliable because anyone can upload information to it.
some websites are reliable, some are not, imo.
presents as part of its "evidence" a message channeled by a spirit medium.
another reason that I gave is that it has articles with titles like
"How to Read Birds as Omens and Signs"
for are you asking about the worldwide web in general?
I believe it is often not reliable because anyone can upload information to it.
some websites are reliable, some are not, imo.
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Thanks I would add or offer something I have ben looking into.
Jesus is represented as the bright and or with morning star .Two working for one purpose . "God is light" in him their is no darkness.
A picture of the new heavens and earth ,when again like the first three days of Creation . God's presence as His eternal glory was literally the light of the world .Hiding his presence to indicate darkness, night. . three days . Night a representation of evil (no light)
And not that he is not able to create it . .God is light. He turned on the two corruption time keepers on day four .called ; "under the sun" the temporal time period in Ecclesiastics.
The Sun to rule the day and the Moon the lesser light to rule the might .The Moon have no source of his own .Just as our Father and His Son . The father as the source of light in a greater position but not greater person .God is one.
Revelation 21:22-24 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it. And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there. And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it.
Jesus is represented as the bright and or with morning star .Two working for one purpose . "God is light" in him their is no darkness.
A picture of the new heavens and earth ,when again like the first three days of Creation . God's presence as His eternal glory was literally the light of the world .Hiding his presence to indicate darkness, night. . three days . Night a representation of evil (no light)
And not that he is not able to create it . .God is light. He turned on the two corruption time keepers on day four .called ; "under the sun" the temporal time period in Ecclesiastics.
The Sun to rule the day and the Moon the lesser light to rule the might .The Moon have no source of his own .Just as our Father and His Son . The father as the source of light in a greater position but not greater person .God is one.
Revelation 21:22-24 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it. And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there. And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it.
Neither has anything to offer. These labels should be tossed into the deep dark sea and we should all come to see ourselves as blood-bought saints of the Lord Jesus Christ. We are to love one another in the Spirit of Unity and throw off the yoke of all labels except for "Christian Church".
Ephesians
4:1 I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called,
4:2 With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love;
4:3 Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.
4:4 [There is] one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
4:6 One God and Father of all, who [is] above all, and through all, and in you all.
Ephesians
4:1 I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called,
4:2 With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love;
4:3 Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.
4:4 [There is] one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
4:6 One God and Father of all, who [is] above all, and through all, and in you all.
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Catholicism a dark place in need of the light of the gospel
That seems to be the difference between Catholics who walk by sight .(out of sight out of mind)They have developed their own legion of mediums (patron saints) . And not after the one exclusive manner that comes as it is written. the word of our father in heaven . The book of prophecy. God's will declared. .
Their foundation is built of necromancy, creating a legion of mediums as workers with familiar spirits, "gods in the likeness of men ". Catholicism has 3500 and rising and rapidly picking up the speed of creating new patrons saints.
Isaiah 8 reveals it is because they have no light coming from the word of God that they do seek after necromancy "sounds with no form created in their own fleshly minds.
The word Seek is used two times. The first necromancy ,seeking after a legion of workers with a familiar spirits or family of spirits. The second time it is the proper kind of seeking. God in us working with us.
Not as Catholic we are God .Or we are the church . . .open your eyes. We have a legion of gods and idol images to put a face on the legion on sale. .
Josiah found the Bible and the Spirit of Christ that worked in Josiah moved him to perform the words of faith . Destroying the abomination of desolation ( things of unconverted mankind in the Holy unseen place of God's hidden glory. Rather they gloried to the flesh .(Walking by sight) The faithless generation called the evil ( No light) the law of our father Making their own written law of their legion of fathers without effect.
A carbon copy of the law of the Jewish fathers . Neither could prove the word of God was heresy and their law as oral traditions of the master.
Isaiah 8: 19-20 And when they shall say unto you, Seek unto them that have familiar spirits, and unto wizards that peep, and that mutter: should not a people seek unto their God? for the living to the dead? To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.
2 Kings 23:24 Moreover the workers with familiar spirits, and the wizards, and the images, and the idols, and all the abominations that were spied in the land of Judah and in Jerusalem, did Josiah put away, that he might perform the words of the law which were written in the book that Hilkiah the priest found in the house of the Lord.
A carbon copy of the law of the Jewish fathers. Neither could prove the word of God (sola scriptura) was heresy and their law as oral traditions of the master.
Paul worshipped the God of the fathers. . not the fathers as gods'. A legion of workers with a familiar spirits.
The gospel destroys that foundation.
Acts 24:13-14 Neither can they prove the things whereof they now accuse me. But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets:
Sola scriptura... the reforming restoring tool in any generation.
That seems to be the difference between Catholics who walk by sight .(out of sight out of mind)They have developed their own legion of mediums (patron saints) . And not after the one exclusive manner that comes as it is written. the word of our father in heaven . The book of prophecy. God's will declared. .
Their foundation is built of necromancy, creating a legion of mediums as workers with familiar spirits, "gods in the likeness of men ". Catholicism has 3500 and rising and rapidly picking up the speed of creating new patrons saints.
Isaiah 8 reveals it is because they have no light coming from the word of God that they do seek after necromancy "sounds with no form created in their own fleshly minds.
The word Seek is used two times. The first necromancy ,seeking after a legion of workers with a familiar spirits or family of spirits. The second time it is the proper kind of seeking. God in us working with us.
Not as Catholic we are God .Or we are the church . . .open your eyes. We have a legion of gods and idol images to put a face on the legion on sale. .
Josiah found the Bible and the Spirit of Christ that worked in Josiah moved him to perform the words of faith . Destroying the abomination of desolation ( things of unconverted mankind in the Holy unseen place of God's hidden glory. Rather they gloried to the flesh .(Walking by sight) The faithless generation called the evil ( No light) the law of our father Making their own written law of their legion of fathers without effect.
A carbon copy of the law of the Jewish fathers . Neither could prove the word of God was heresy and their law as oral traditions of the master.
Isaiah 8: 19-20 And when they shall say unto you, Seek unto them that have familiar spirits, and unto wizards that peep, and that mutter: should not a people seek unto their God? for the living to the dead? To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.
2 Kings 23:24 Moreover the workers with familiar spirits, and the wizards, and the images, and the idols, and all the abominations that were spied in the land of Judah and in Jerusalem, did Josiah put away, that he might perform the words of the law which were written in the book that Hilkiah the priest found in the house of the Lord.
A carbon copy of the law of the Jewish fathers. Neither could prove the word of God (sola scriptura) was heresy and their law as oral traditions of the master.
Paul worshipped the God of the fathers. . not the fathers as gods'. A legion of workers with a familiar spirits.
The gospel destroys that foundation.
Acts 24:13-14 Neither can they prove the things whereof they now accuse me. But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets:
Sola scriptura... the reforming restoring tool in any generation.
Not to proud not ask for help .Sorry. Can't improve of the word of God .It performs its work of giving us his understanding . We an plant or water it.
Its not the best English but its English and I can get wordy in my rambling . And not asking you to study and rightly divide my opinions .That's reserved for the word of God. But sharing my understanding on some things I have noticed.
The difference between the the two is what I was trying to convey . One as the morning star is a representation not the source of light .The believers as sons of God. And the other the Bright as a source of light and morning star the reflection of the bright.
The Bright as source of light is represented by the Father, the Son a reflection .
Creation does support the event, a drastic change on the fourth day. Finding sin in the heart of the most beautiful messenger Satan. The beginning of corruption must of occurred on day three or four . Day four the countdown is seen (time element) by the two corruption time keepers. Sun and Moon
Up until the fourth day there were no lights in the heaven. God's presence "let there be". . provided the light of His glory .
Again God is light and not only can he create it but it is the his very essence . God is light. God is Spirit. God is Love .Again not attributes a person .
Geneisis 1: 14-19 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth, And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good. And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.
Revelation 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star
Bright and morning star a reflection of the glory of the Father. not just morning star . Two working as one.
Its not the best English but its English and I can get wordy in my rambling . And not asking you to study and rightly divide my opinions .That's reserved for the word of God. But sharing my understanding on some things I have noticed.
The difference between the the two is what I was trying to convey . One as the morning star is a representation not the source of light .The believers as sons of God. And the other the Bright as a source of light and morning star the reflection of the bright.
The Bright as source of light is represented by the Father, the Son a reflection .
Creation does support the event, a drastic change on the fourth day. Finding sin in the heart of the most beautiful messenger Satan. The beginning of corruption must of occurred on day three or four . Day four the countdown is seen (time element) by the two corruption time keepers. Sun and Moon
Up until the fourth day there were no lights in the heaven. God's presence "let there be". . provided the light of His glory .
Again God is light and not only can he create it but it is the his very essence . God is light. God is Spirit. God is Love .Again not attributes a person .
Geneisis 1: 14-19 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth, And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good. And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.
Revelation 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star
Bright and morning star a reflection of the glory of the Father. not just morning star . Two working as one.
well, a same and different morning
Exodus 12:10 You shall let nothing of it remain until the morning; but that which remains of it until the morning you shall burn with fire. 11 This is how you shall eat it: with your belt on your waist, your shoes on your feet, and your staff in your hand; and you shall eat it in haste: it is Pure Being's Passover. 12 For I will go through the land of Egypt in that night, and will strike all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both man and animal. Against all the gods of Egypt I will execute judgments: I am Pure Being!
but then
Judges 9:33 and it shall be, that in the morning, as soon as the sun is up, you shall rise early, and rush on the city; and behold, when he and the people who are with him come out against you, then may you do to them as you shall find occasion." 34 Abimelech rose up, and all the people who were with him, by night, and they laid wait against Shechem in four companies. 35 Gaal the son of Ebed went out, and stood in the entrance of the gate of the city: and Abimelech rose up, and the people who were with him, from the ambush. 36 When Gaal saw the people, he said to Zebul, "Behold, people are coming down from the tops of the mountains." Zebul said to him, "You see the shadow of the mountains as if they were men."
and what is in the shadows?
Psalm 72:3 The mountains shall bring prosperity to the people. The hills bring the fruit of righteousness. 4 He will judge the poor of the people. He will save the children of the needy, and will break the oppressor in pieces. 5 They shall fear you while the sun endures; and as long as the moon, throughout all generations.
and there we see the sun!
Exodus 12:10 You shall let nothing of it remain until the morning; but that which remains of it until the morning you shall burn with fire. 11 This is how you shall eat it: with your belt on your waist, your shoes on your feet, and your staff in your hand; and you shall eat it in haste: it is Pure Being's Passover. 12 For I will go through the land of Egypt in that night, and will strike all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both man and animal. Against all the gods of Egypt I will execute judgments: I am Pure Being!
but then
Judges 9:33 and it shall be, that in the morning, as soon as the sun is up, you shall rise early, and rush on the city; and behold, when he and the people who are with him come out against you, then may you do to them as you shall find occasion." 34 Abimelech rose up, and all the people who were with him, by night, and they laid wait against Shechem in four companies. 35 Gaal the son of Ebed went out, and stood in the entrance of the gate of the city: and Abimelech rose up, and the people who were with him, from the ambush. 36 When Gaal saw the people, he said to Zebul, "Behold, people are coming down from the tops of the mountains." Zebul said to him, "You see the shadow of the mountains as if they were men."
and what is in the shadows?
Psalm 72:3 The mountains shall bring prosperity to the people. The hills bring the fruit of righteousness. 4 He will judge the poor of the people. He will save the children of the needy, and will break the oppressor in pieces. 5 They shall fear you while the sun endures; and as long as the moon, throughout all generations.
and there we see the sun!
Not sure what Exodus had to do with it? You described morning the beginning of the day .
Psalm 72:3. It seems to fit the understanding of the other parable. "bright and or accompanied with the morning star."
Its the last day in the parable you offered the day of judgement and the receiving of the propmised new body as the bride of Christ. The last day under the sun . The kingdoms or mountains as sects of this world have become the one kingdom in the new order. (the prosperity of the gospel ) They bring the righteousness the fruit of Christ's labor of love . They shall trust God while the sun endures; and as long as the moon, throughout all generations. In the new order there will be no Sun as a source of light and no moon to reflect it. . . all of the stars fall. the end of the rudiments of this world . God's Glory is the bright light as it was the first three days of creation.
Revelation 21:11 Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal;
Revelation 21:23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.
The discr[tion of God the father and Son is bright as the source of His glory and sta as the reflection of the glory of the father. or literaly the gloy of the Sun reflested its light on the moon . Mon representing the sond of man
Psalm 72:3. It seems to fit the understanding of the other parable. "bright and or accompanied with the morning star."
Its the last day in the parable you offered the day of judgement and the receiving of the propmised new body as the bride of Christ. The last day under the sun . The kingdoms or mountains as sects of this world have become the one kingdom in the new order. (the prosperity of the gospel ) They bring the righteousness the fruit of Christ's labor of love . They shall trust God while the sun endures; and as long as the moon, throughout all generations. In the new order there will be no Sun as a source of light and no moon to reflect it. . . all of the stars fall. the end of the rudiments of this world . God's Glory is the bright light as it was the first three days of creation.
Revelation 21:11 Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal;
Revelation 21:23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.
The discr[tion of God the father and Son is bright as the source of His glory and sta as the reflection of the glory of the father. or literaly the gloy of the Sun reflested its light on the moon . Mon representing the sond of man
yes, evening and morning one day
Genesis 1:5 God called the light "day," and the darkness he called "night." There was evening and there was morning, one day.
and it was at night that Jacob saw into heaven unseen
Genesis 28:11 He came to a certain place, and stayed there all night, because the sun had set. He took one of the stones of the place, and put it under his head, and lay down in that place to sleep. 12 He dreamed. Behold, a stairway set upon the earth, and its top reached to heaven. Behold, the angels of God ascending and descending
on it.
thus the prophecy
Isaiah 30:25 There shall be brooks and streams of water on every lofty mountain and on every high hill in the day of the great slaughter, when the towers fall. 26 Moreover the light of the moon will be like the light of the sun, and the light of the sun will be seven times brighter, like the light of seven days, in the day that Pure Being binds up the fracture of his people, and heals the wound they were struck with.
Genesis 1:5 God called the light "day," and the darkness he called "night." There was evening and there was morning, one day.
and it was at night that Jacob saw into heaven unseen
Genesis 28:11 He came to a certain place, and stayed there all night, because the sun had set. He took one of the stones of the place, and put it under his head, and lay down in that place to sleep. 12 He dreamed. Behold, a stairway set upon the earth, and its top reached to heaven. Behold, the angels of God ascending and descending
on it.
thus the prophecy
Isaiah 30:25 There shall be brooks and streams of water on every lofty mountain and on every high hill in the day of the great slaughter, when the towers fall. 26 Moreover the light of the moon will be like the light of the sun, and the light of the sun will be seven times brighter, like the light of seven days, in the day that Pure Being binds up the fracture of his people, and heals the wound they were struck with.
"After reading the book, I came across a channeled message titled "Manipulation of Religious Traditions and Beliefs" that parallels the findings of Putnam and Horn."
are you familiar with channeling?
the article isn't about watching animals to see if they can detect something with their senses which in some cases are better than ours.
it's about looking for guidance in things like romantic relationships and jobs, or contacting dead ancestors
"Maybe its an angry ancestor trying to express their unhappiness about some mess you're making in life."
https://exemplore.com/spirit-animals/birds-as-omens-and-signs
are you familiar with channeling?
the article isn't about watching animals to see if they can detect something with their senses which in some cases are better than ours.
it's about looking for guidance in things like romantic relationships and jobs, or contacting dead ancestors
"Maybe its an angry ancestor trying to express their unhappiness about some mess you're making in life."
https://exemplore.com/spirit-animals/birds-as-omens-and-signs