Catholicism vs Protestantism

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Jackson123 said:
And only need one to interprate this subject.

I don't think it mean apostle Paul still able to bear fruit now, in the sense of preach from church to church, or able to help us that live on earth
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Obviously Paul is not preaching from church to church but that does not stop him from interceding for us in heaven, just as Jesus is interceding for us.

When he was on earth Paul wrote that he imitated Christ. Why would he stop doing that when in heaven?
 
Jackson123 said:
You don't need to interprate ccc 841 letter by letter to come to conclusion catholic say Muslim together with catholic adore the one and mercifull God, mankind's judge on the last day.
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yet, I believe you did quote CCC 841 almost letter by letter.

using a loose interpretation of the CCC, it can be made to say all kinds of things!

so can the Bible!

we may wish to read this with the same loose interpretation
Acts 17:23 For as I passed along, and observed the objects of your worship, I found also an altar with this inscription: 'TO AN UNKNOWN GOD.' What therefore you worship in ignorance, this I announce to you.

not going letter-by-letter, the CCC says the same thing that Paul says here!
 
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Dan_473 said:
yet, I believe you did quote CCC 841 almost letter by letter.

using a loose interpretation of the CCC, it can be made to say all kinds of things!

so can the Bible!

we may wish to read this with the same loose interpretation
Acts 17:23 For as I passed along, and observed the objects of your worship, I found also an altar with this inscription: 'TO AN UNKNOWN GOD.' What therefore you worship in ignorance, this I announce to you.

not going letter-by-letter, the CCC says the same thing that Paul says here!
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What do you mean read letter by letter?
Every body interprate after read letter by letter,
Read must letter by letter, than interprate by context
I think This is the beground

One-World Church Expected This Year

Catholic Involvement​

The importance of the World Conference on Religion and Peace was recently underscored when the Vatican hosted the first session of its sixth General Assembly in November, 1994. The conference theme was "Healing the World: Religions for Peace". This was the first time an official interfaith conference had been convened at the Holy See. In his opening address, the Pope told the 900 representatives of the world's religions assembled in the Synod Hall that "religious leaders must clearly show that they are pledged to the promotion of peace" and religions must "engage in a dialogue of mutual understanding and peace on the basis of the values they share". He ended by remarking, "The Vatican is open to you. I hope you all return soon."
 
Bede said:
Obviously Paul is not preaching from church to church but that does not stop him from interceding for us in heaven, just as Jesus is interceding for us.

When he was on earth Paul wrote that he imitated Christ. Why would he stop doing that when in heaven?
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My brother, if Paul able to communicate with us, why not preach to Us?
 
Jackson123 said:
What do you mean read letter by letter?
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did I talk about reading letter by letter?
I don't think so, but if I did I meant "interpret letter by letter."

like you say here
Jackson123 said:
We have to calculate the end result, not interprate letter by letter.
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but I'm happy to reword my earlier post:
if we follow your example of not interpreting 2nd Kings letter-by-letter, then
not interpreting the CCC letter by letter, it can be made to say all kinds of things!

so can the Bible!

we may wish to read this and not interpret it letter by letter
Acts 17:23 For as I passed along, and observed the objects of your worship, I found also an altar with this inscription: 'TO AN UNKNOWN GOD.' What therefore you worship in ignorance, this I announce to you.

not interpreting letter by letter, the CCC says the same thing that Paul says here!
 
Dan_473 said:
did I talk about reading letter by letter?
I don't think so, but if I did I meant "interpret letter by letter."

like you say here


but I'm happy to reword my earlier post:
if we follow your example of not interpreting 2nd Kings letter-by-letter, then
not interpreting the CCC letter by letter, it can be made to say all kinds of things!

so can the Bible!

we may wish to read this and not interpret it letter by letter
Acts 17:23 For as I passed along, and observed the objects of your worship, I found also an altar with this inscription: 'TO AN UNKNOWN GOD.' What therefore you worship in ignorance, this I announce to you.

not interpreting letter by letter, the CCC says the same thing that Paul says here!
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Seem to me you pretending not understand what Paul mean, so you able to say ccc 841 not lie
 
I believe this is the context of ccc 841

The Vatican is open to you. I hope you all return soon."

Try to make one world religion
 
The World Conference on Religion and Peace​

Bishop Swing's other main partner is the World Conference on Religion and Peace (WCRP). It is through this organization that the Catholic Church has become closely involved in founding the United Religions.


The WCRP, with strong Catholic representation, was launched in 1970. It had been conceived in 1960 by four American religious leaders, including John Cardinal Wright. The Catholic Archbishop of New Delhi, Angelo Fernandes, was its first international president. The WCRP's 1979 conference featured an interfaith service in St. Patrick's Cathedral. in New York, presided over by Cardinal Cooke.
 
Jackson123 said:
I believe this is the context of ccc 841

The Vatican is open to you. I hope you all return soon."

Try to make one world religion
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of course you're welcome to believe that.

there have been Catholic Popes for around two thousand years.
if they are trying to mix together all the world's religions, they sure are going about it in an inefficient way!

after all that time, it doesn't look to me like the world is even close to a one world religion, let alone one headed by the Pope.
 
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Jackson123 said:
The World Conference on Religion and Peace​

Bishop Swing's other main partner is the World Conference on Religion and Peace (WCRP). It is through this organization that the Catholic Church has become closely involved in founding the United Religions.


The WCRP, with strong Catholic representation, was launched in 1970. It had been conceived in 1960 by four American religious leaders, including John Cardinal Wright. The Catholic Archbishop of New Delhi, Angelo Fernandes, was its first international president. The WCRP's 1979 conference featured an interfaith service in St. Patrick's Cathedral. in New York, presided over by Cardinal Cooke.
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interesting!
I've never heard of the WCRP.
it seems to me that it has had about as much success in making a one-world religion
as the United Nations has had in making a One World Government.

of course, modern technology is going to bring about increased globalization and homogenisation of cultures.

the whole situation reminds me of
"The empire, long divided, must unite; long united, must divide. Thus it has ever been."
https://en.m.wikiquote.org/wiki/Romance_of_the_Three_Kingdoms
 
another thought on the subject of a one-world religion.

most people would say that Satan is behind it, that sounds right.

when people look at Islamic extremists, they usually say that Satan is behind them, too... and that sounds right.

Islamic extremism works against religions uniting.
we know that a kingdom divided against itself cannot stand.

so if Satan is behind both of those movements, his kingdom cannot stand.
 
Dan_473 said:
another thought on the subject of a one-world religion.

most people would say that Satan is behind it, that sounds right.

when people look at Islamic extremists, they usually say that Satan is behind them, too... and that sounds right.

Islamic extremism works against religions uniting.
we know that a kingdom divided against itself cannot stand.

so if Satan is behind both of those movements, his kingdom cannot stand.
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So you don't believe Satan behind one world religion?
 
841 The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."

Muslim together with us(catholic) adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day".

You don't need to interprate letter by letter, it mean

Catholic and Muslim adore the same God

If catholic adore Jesus, Muslim adore Jesus

If Muslim adore Allah, catholic adore allah
 
Jackson123 said:
When you pray to Paul, don't you communicate to him?
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We ask them [the Saints in heaven] for their intercession, not for them to talk to us. We are just asking them for their prayers and help, though Christ, our one Lord.
I never suggested they "communicate with us.
 
Bede said:
Obviously Paul is not preaching from church to church but that does not stop him from interceding for us in heaven, just as Jesus is interceding for us.

When he was on earth Paul wrote that he imitated Christ. Why would he stop doing that when in heaven?
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"For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus," 1 Tim 2:5
 
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