Catholic Heresy (for the record)
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can you tell me what Jesus said in john 6 would be given to ALL who eat this "food which endures forver", "bread from heaven" "flesh and blood"
Not asking what the roman church says, I want to know what Jesus says, it is there in black and white (unless you have a red letter bible. then it is there in red)
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eternally-gratefull
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just because one reads a chapter does not mean they understand it. that would be faulty thinking
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eternally-gratefull
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Jesus said"if you eat my flesh and drink my blood, i will raise you up on the last day!!!! Interesting that this verse totally blows the rapture nonsense out of the water
Therein lies your problem. I accept the authority of the Church in interpreting scripture, just like the Ethiopian sruggling to understand Isaiah when St. Paul offered, with authority, to teach him. You have no authority in interpreting scripture and you will bend it to fit your preconceived agenda against the Church
At least the Bereans were honorable enough to do their own research in Gods word. Acts 17-11-12
For the cause of Christ
Roger
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eternally-gratefull
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Jesus said alot of things, not just that.
and since when is the discussion the rapture? And you can eat the eucharist and not even be assured of being risen on the last day according to catholic doctrine. so whats your point?
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the whole conversation Jesus had in the "flesh and blood" context. Not just the two verses the roman church likes to use.
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No, thats your problem.
1. You just proved you listen to men (your church)
2. If what your church says does not line up with what the word says, the word always trumps the church.
3. I have no authority to do anything, But I have the responsibility to interpret the word of God correctly. My eternity depends on it.
So as we see, you do not want to discuss the word.. thus again, you just proved my point.
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God demands we all do this, not just blindly follow any man. Paul even demanded people check what he said with the word.. Not to listen to him blindly like the roman church demands.
They are NOT closely related as anyone with a basic knowledge of Semitic languages could tell you. It is quite clear that you have no grounding in Hebrew, Aramaic or Arabic.
Of course it is one word. It comes from the singular eloha.
Allah has a double L pronounced as one in Arabic.
How long have you been genuinely studying Hebrews scholastically? Try HLL lol. that immediately comes to mind although it is not parallel to Allah in construction. can u tell me why?
How did you read the New Testament in Hebrew? It is written in Greek. You betray your lack of knowledge immediately.
Come on, admit that you know nothing about the construction of Semitic languages.
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by the way, you also just proved who is the one following propoganda.
1. I never told you what I believe John 6 says, I asked you what it said.
2. I never told you what to believe, I asked what it said.
3. I never told you my interpretation. or demanded you follow it.
Yet your only argument is I am doing the very things I have never done, You have responded with a "programmed" response.
Which apostle teach that Mary is Queen of heaven?, how about Purgatory, did Peter teach about purgatory?
You not listen to apostle, you listen to pagan teaching.
Actually it doesn't affect 1 Thess 4.13 ff Perhaps you would explain why you think it does?
But what do those words mean? They are interpreted by Jesus Himself. I am the Bread of Life, he who comes to Me (eats of Me) will never hunger, and he who believes in Me (drinks of Me) will never thirst. (John 6.35).
So He was not referring to any Eucharist (which was totally future at this point). He was referring to them coming to Him and believing on Him as a consequence of the fact that they would first partake of Him by killing Him.
As He then said, 'the words I speak to you are Spirit and they are life' (that is, are not to be taken literally)
The Roman Catholic church has never been given the authority to interpret the Scriptures EXCEPT BY ITSELF. To think they have the same authority as Paul is laughable. However, Paul had nothing to do with the Ethiopian Eunuch. I suggest you read the passage again. You can't even read what it says.