Catholic Heresy (for the record)
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Without trust, it is impossible to please and obey God. Jesus, on the other hand, is easy to trust, but wasn't a requirement of the Old Covenant. Then there is the fact that the covenants are about persons only God speaks too. None of those persons lives today.
God still speaks. It is impossible for the natural man to trust Jesus. What is impossible for man is possible with God.
Not according to Scripture. Read Romans 1.
Psalm 19:1
Romans 1:18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness. 19 For what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood from His workmanship, so that men are without excuse.
21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified Him as God nor gave thanks to Him, but they became futile in their thinking and darkened in their foolish hearts. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools, 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images of mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles.
If it helps:
John 3:16-18 (KJV)
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
I guess a lot of people might see that "the name of the only begotten Son of God" would mean like the character of Jesus, which would include the things he did pertinent to our salvation.
I don't know if everyone knows that God exists, but I think he might make it evident to everyone in their own season. I don't know if the Bible explicitly says that everyone knows that he exists.
You would be surprised that Enoch had everlasting life while not in the afterlife, yes?
Walked with God, and suddenly disappeared mysteriously. He is in the line of Shem.
Ok, what made you think he had everlasting life? He might have eaten from the tree of life in heaven if it's there, but he might have died in heaven.
He prospered and he did not die. It says he was translated, after he walked with God.
And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.
Ok, God might have taken him to heaven to live the rest of his life there. It doesn't say he had eternal life.
When I hear the phrase eternal life; I think everlasting prosperity without the taste of the death.
[Matthew 16:28 KJV] 28 Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.
[Mark 9:1 KJV] 1 And he said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That there be some of them that stand here, which shall not taste of death, till they have seen the kingdom of God come with power.
[Luke 9:27 KJV] 27 But I tell you of a truth, there be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the kingdom of God.
[John 8:52 KJV] 52 Then said the Jews unto him, Now we know that thou hast a devil. Abraham is dead, and the prophets; and thou sayest, If a man keep my saying, he shall never taste of death.
It doesn't say Enoch had eternal life though. What I'm saying is that God might have taken him to heaven to live the rest of his life there.