Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

[Blain]

It's what they do blain, they consistently reply on the intension of your feelings dont matter.

Well they will reap what they sow they will have to give account to every word they have spoken one day

 

[Jordon]

Well they will reap what they sow they will have to give account to every word they have spoken one day

This is true, but it's more the case in this thread they are sowing what they reap of, which is Roman Catholic heresy

 

[Just_A__Follower]

The problem is, as you say, God is love and if you don't know God, you might think you are being loving but who knows really? How you respond to a situation may not be how the Lord would respond at all. One only need think of the time He called Peter satan.

Love is not a warm fuzzy or being nice to people. Our God is a consuming fire as well and the reason we know that? Bible Doctrine.

I don’t try to respond the way God responds. I’m not God. I try to respond the way God wants me to respond. I’m not called to destroy my enemies by burning their cities down with raining sulphur or drowning them in the sea. I’m called to love and pray for them. Just because we see God do something doesn’t mean we can or should do it.

 

[Blain]

This is true, but it's more the case in this thread they are sowing what they reap of, which is Roman Catholic heresy

I didn't know it was roman catholic heresy what exactly are they saying that is roman catholic heresy?

 

[sawdust]

I don’t try to respond the way God responds. I’m not God. I try to respond the way God wants me to respond. I’m not called to destroy my enemies by burning their cities down with raining sulphur or drowning them in the sea. I’m called to love and pray for them. Just because we see God do something doesn’t mean we can or should do it.

No-one suggested you play God. We are to be like Christ, the perfect human being.

1 Corinthians 2:16
For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? but we have the mind of Christ.

How do we get that thinking? By learning bible doctrine. By understanding His purpose, plan and way of working.

You can claim to love all you want but if you don't know God, you don't know love. God is love.

 

[Genez]

Listen you don't know or have any knowledge of my limitations you don't have to deal with the brain damage I have to deal with a so kindly back off because it is not an excuse if I have to much information thrown at me my mind just shuts down it is a medical disability

You haven't known me as long as others here so you have no idea what I have been through and how it damaged me I have to work twice as hard to be understand certaian things and I have to work twice as hard to memorize or retain information I have been given it is not easy

But this is why I rely so heavily on the spirit when it comes to this kind of stuff but you honestly think someone with brain damage twice in the same spot by the way can deal with hours of study and somehow keep that information?

It is not easy to make me mad but you crossed the line here you have no clue no idea how hard it is to even admit that I have these issues let alone having to deal with them I am mentally disabled get over it

Do you know about this?

Acetyl L Carnitine memory... Learning.

You might want to Google it.

 

[sawdust]

Well they will reap what they sow they will have to give account to every word they have spoken one day

This is true, but it's more the case in this thread they are sowing what they reap of, which is Roman Catholic heresy

I see you two are still gossiping. How about getting back to bible discussion?

 

[Just_A__Follower]

No-one suggested you play God. We are to be like Christ, the perfect human being.

1 Corinthians 2:16
For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? but we have the mind of Christ.

How do we get that thinking? By learning bible doctrine. By understanding His purpose, plan and way of working.

You can claim to love all you want but if you don't know God, you don't know love. God is love.

Ok

 

[Jordon]

I see you two are still gossiping. How about getting back to bible discussion?

ok Mrs what you got in mind

 

[cv5]

The problem is, as you say, God is love and if you don't know God, you might think you are being loving but who knows really? How you respond to a situation may not be how the Lord would respond at all. One only need think of the time He called Peter satan.

Love is not a warm fuzzy or being nice to people. Our God is a consuming fire as well and the reason we know that? Bible Doctrine.

1Ti 5:17
Let the elders that rule well be counted worthy of double honour, especially they who labour in the word and doctrine.

High praise indeed for the Godly scholars and scribes.....

 

[Blain]

1Ti 5:17
Let the elders that rule well be counted worthy of double honour, especially they who labour in the word and doctrine.

High praise indeed for the Godly scholars and scribes.....

Wow you sure like to puff yourself up don't you? the scriptures also say this 1 Corinthians 8:1
New International Version
Now about food sacrificed to idols: We know that “We all possess knowledge.” But knowledge puffs up while love builds up.

 

[Jordon]

Here is advice from your Lord Jesus Himself.
Of course you may dispose of it as you see fit according to your own free will, your own desire.

[Luk 24:44-48 KJV]
44 And he said unto them, These [are] the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and [in] the prophets, and [in] the psalms, concerning me.

(ARE YOU ABLE TO PREACH THIS SAME MESSAGE?)

45 Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,

(DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE SCRIPTURES?)

46 And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:

(WRITTEN WHERE?)

47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

(CAN YOU HELP IN ANY WAY? PLEASE DO IF YOU ARE ABLE)

48 And ye are witnesses of these things.

(BE A WITNESS NOT A WHINER)

Be a doer not a hearer your works are a result of faith, and faith is Christ in you.

By the way you don't comfirm your faith by your works, having assurance produces works

 

[sawdust]

Wow you sure like to puff yourself up don't you? the scriptures also say this 1 Corinthians 8:1
New International Version
Now about food sacrificed to idols: We know that “We all possess knowledge.” But knowledge puffs up while love builds up.

Where has @cv5 claimed to be a pastor/teacher (elder) appointed by God? I haven't seen it. He was noting that those who are appointed for such work and do it well, are worthy of such praise for it takes a lot of time and energy.

You're prejudice is beginning to show. I suggest again, walk away.

 

[cv5]

Wow you sure like to puff yourself up don't you? the scriptures also say this 1 Corinthians 8:1
New International Version
Now about food sacrificed to idols: We know that “We all possess knowledge.” But knowledge puffs up while love builds up.

You assume too much.
I assay myself as a mid-level Bible student......at best.

Positively absolutely not a scholar nor a scribe.

 

[Blain]

You assume too much.
I assay myself as a mid-level Bible student......at best.

Positively absolutely not a scholar nor a scribe.

Well either way your boasting is noted you value knowledge which is good but you put it above the love that is the most important fruit and aspect of the believer your boasting of scribes and scholars is in bad taste even the Pharisee;s had full knowledge of the scriptures and look at how Jesus saw them

I do apologize for assuming things but all the knowledge in the world will do no good without love

 

[cv5]

@cv5

Time for Bible study!

 

[cv5]

Well either way your boasting is noted you value knowledge which is good but you put it above the love that is the most important fruit and aspect of the believer your boasting of scribes and scholars is in bad taste even the Pharisee;s had full knowledge of the scriptures and look at how Jesus saw them

I do apologize for assuming things but all the knowledge in the world will do no good without love

"YOUR boasting of scribes and scholars"

1Ti 5:17
Let the elders that rule well be counted worthy of double honour, especially they who labour in the word and doctrine.

Actually, no, it is God Who is dispensing with the praise thru Paul's pen. I am simply agreeing/complying.
And yes, this passage is a DOCTRINAL statement!

That being said, my request was for YOU to likewise HONOR those who labor in word and doctrine.
But.....you resist, refuse and then double down on your specious attacks and accusations.

So then, who is the one failing the test of love and respect for God's word, His workers, and obedience to doctrine?
Who is the one that finds laboring in doctrine and scholarship a second rate job if not contemptable?

 

[Blain]

"YOUR boasting of scribes and scholars"

1Ti 5:17
Let the elders that rule well be counted worthy of double honour, especially they who labour in the word and doctrine.

Actually, no, it is God Who is dispensing with the praise thru Paul's pen. I am simply agreeing/complying.
And yes, this passage is a DOCTRINAL statement!

That being said, my request was for YOU to likewise HONOR those who labor in word and doctrine.
But.....you resist, refuse and then double down on your specious attacks and accusations.

So then, who is the one failing the test of love and respect for God's word, His workers, and obedience to doctrine?
Who is the one that finds laboring in doctrine and scholarship a second rate job if not contemptable?

Oh I have no isse with doctrine and scribes but they have to be the right kind the way you speak to others shows me that if I am to follow any doctrine it is not what you offer. Now Just a follower that is someone I can get behind they lead by example and show love regardless of what is said against them whatever teachings they have sought that is what I want so I can in turn be more like that.

You seem to think I have an issue with knowledge and scholars but no this is not so it is the kind of scribes and scholars that I have issue with seeing you shows me that that I should not follow or listen to any doctrine you or anyone who agrees with you give or offer.

But hey you do you

 

[Jordon]

"YOUR boasting of scribes and scholars"

1Ti 5:17
Let the elders that rule well be counted worthy of double honour, especially they who labour in the word and doctrine.

Actually, no, it is God Who is dispensing with the praise thru Paul's pen. I am simply agreeing/complying.
And yes, this passage is a DOCTRINAL statement!

That being said, my request was for YOU to likewise HONOR those who labor in word and doctrine.
But.....you resist, refuse and then double down on your specious attacks and accusations.

So then, who is the one failing the test of love and respect for God's word, His workers, and obedience to doctrine?
Who is the one that finds laboring in doctrine and scholarship a second rate job if not contemptable?

I tell you what you post us a favourite sermon you have, just one, for not to long, and let's see your particular flavor of who you have connected with.

 

[Jordon]

Unreal @cv5. 2 whining babies have taken over. At least false doctrine isn't being spread as much....... Just temper tantrums.

really I don't think your assumptions can be taken seriously since you made known your foxhole conversion theory belief known, which is known in our faith as the person who looks for loop holes in his word on his last breath.