Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

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Blain said:
I am not sure what your getting at with this passage it reads fine to me how is translation an issue? it it true however that if one read the bible in their original language the word of God opens up like you wouldn't believe but the word of God is not limited to mans translation

If this was the case then the bibles we have would be useless but I have personally seen the power the scriptures have regardless of translation
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You are assuming too much.

You can not what it is saying unless someone exegetes it for you from the Greek.

I will make it short.

For the grace of God has appeared that offers salvation to all people.
It teaches us to say “No” to ungodliness and worldly passions, and to
live self-controlled, upright and godly lives in this present age. Titus 2:11-12

The way grace teaches us to say "No" to ungodliness?
It is not by learning from a teacher about what things to say "no" to.

The Greek word is not didasko...
Typically, learning in a student-teacher setting.
'Teaching' in the Greek means 'the hard way of learning'

It means God will let you do what you should not be doing.
Allowing you to do so until it begins to make you hurt.

Then?
After allowing you to hurt so bad?
That you will finally learn to say "No!"

You can never get that from pondering a typical Translation.
And, that is only one small example of what I speak.

Those who the Scriptures state "meditated" upon God's word?
Were getting it shown in the original langauge!
 
Genez said:
You are assuming too much.

You can not what it is saying unless someone exegetes it for you from the Greek.

I will make it short.

For the grace of God has appeared that offers salvation to all people.
It teaches us to say “No” to ungodliness and worldly passions, and to
live self-controlled, upright and godly lives in this present age. Titus 2:11-12

The way grace teaches us to say "No" to ungodliness?
It is not by learning from a teacher about what things to say "no" to.

The Greek word is not didasko...
Typically, learning in a student-teacher setting.
'Teaching' in the Greek means 'the hard way of learning'

It means God will let you do what you should not be doing.
Allowing you to do so until it begins to make you hurt.

Then?
After allowing you to hurt so bad?
That you will finally learn to say "No!"

You can never get that from pondering a typical Translation.
And, that is only one small example of what I speak.

Those who the Scriptures state "meditated" upon God's word?
Were getting it shown in the original langauge!
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So then are we not getting the full truth unless it is in the greek?
 
Blain said:
I haven't seen magenta in this thread in a good while I imagine she had enough and left
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Good. Less false doctrine Spread. Maybe/hopefully she realized the Gospel is for all men........Not just for the calvies.
 
Kroogz said:
Good. Less false doctrine Spread. Maybe/hopefully she realized the Gospel is for all men........Not just for the calvies.
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She isn't a calvinist and I don't think she thinks salvation is only for some. Why do people keep throwing that term around it is not a term you can just label someone because you disagree with them
 
Blain said:
She isn't a calvinist and I don't think she thinks salvation is only for some. Why do people keep throwing that term around it is not a term you can just label someone because you disagree with them
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She has more than once asserted that people must be unilaterally activated by God and without this personal activation they cannot, will not, respond positively to the truth of the Good News.

This means God chooses some for salvation and leaves others in their sin with the door closed in their face because the Gospel message is devoid of power which is opposite of everything in scripture.

This is the very heart of Calvinism >>>> Total Inability!!
 
HeIsHere said:
She has more than once asserted that people must be unilaterally activated by God and without this personal activation they cannot, will not, respond positively to the truth of the Good News.

This means God chooses some for salvation and leaves others in their sin with the door closed in their face because the Gospel message is devoid of power which is opposite of everything in scripture.

This is the very heart of Calvinism >>>> Total Inability!!
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She ticked off all of the boxes that's a fact.
Had to add a few extra boxes just for her.......:oops:
 
cv5 said:
She ticked off all of the boxes that's a fact.
Had to add a few extra boxes just for her.......:oops:
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They think if they deny "Reprobation" then they are not Calvinists, so silly, Reprobation is the flip side of "Total Inability," they go hand in hand, impossible to have one without the other.
 
Blain said:
She isn't a calvinist and I don't think she thinks salvation is only for some. Why do people keep throwing that term around it is not a term you can just label someone because you disagree with them
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I wasn't a calvie when I was a calvie . Hide it the best you can!



Salvation is equal privilege and equal opportunity for ALL.


@Magenta has fought this truth tooth and nail.
 
HeIsHere said:
She has more than once asserted that people must be unilaterally activated by God and without this personal activation they cannot, will not, respond positively to the truth of the Good News.

This means God chooses some for salvation and leaves others in their sin with the door closed in their face because the Gospel message is devoid of power which is opposite of everything in scripture.

This is the very heart of Calvinism >>>> Total Inability!!
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Well I don't know about it being the heart of cavinism but she is correct one must be drawn to him before they can recieve him the scriptures even say so John 6:44
New International Version
“No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them, and I will raise them up at the last day.
 
HeIsHere said:
They think if they deny "Reprobation" then they are not Calvinists, so silly, Reprobation is the flip side of "Total Inability," they go hand in hand, impossible to have one without the other.
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more nonsense from you too.
 
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