Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

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You always take it too far.
You can never get the right balance.
It gives you something to attack, which you like doing.

In spite of your ongoing, locked in, antagonism...

It does say the following:

Humble yourselves, therefore, under the mighty hand of God,
so that he may exalt you at the proper time." 1 Peter 5:6

Grace and peace .......
I'm not attacking anyone. I simply responded to your posts. Because God exalts an individual doesn't make one worthy to be exalted.

Was Mary worthy to be the one who bore Jesus? Was she more worthy than others? Some perhaps. Others, perhaps not. God simply decided to bestow the honor upon her. Did she say...it's about time you did something for me God? Nope. She recognized her own unworthiness and worshipped God for His favor. Our response should be likewise.

It's all about God. Great things He has done
 
You always take it too far.
You can never get the right balance.
It gives you something to attack, which you like doing.

In spite of your ongoing, locked in, antagonism...

It does say the following:

Humble yourselves, therefore, under the mighty hand of God,
so that he may exalt you at the proper time." 1 Peter 5:6

Grace and peace .......

I will say you just have this profound "insight" about some people here..
 
How is this inner joy and happiness manifest? Is it only an inward expression? Does it not shine forth?
God brings you into it, similar how we found ourselves entering into puberty.
Its gradual, and makes one forget the sadness you have come through to get there.

But... only happens with one way. Sound doctrine.
Sound doctrine corrects us... instructs us... and enlightens us in ways we could never have thought of ourselves.

Sound doctrine changes our heart's thinking in ways we could not have imagined.


“For my thoughts are not your thoughts,
neither are your ways my ways,”
declares the Lord.


Isaiah 55:8​

I have offered this to others before.
I'll offer it to you, too.

Here is a pastor whom I found is equipped to bring believers through to maturity.
He can make you concentrate and take notes when they first begin learning from him.

I recall him once telling us that when he was away at a Bible teaching conference,
that a young lady at the front desk of the hotel where he was checking in, told him that his messages stopped her from suicide.

These teachings are not for everyone. No one pastor is.
But, many have benefitted in ways that they are grateful for.

Look here and see if it looks right for you. https://www.rbthieme.org/index.html#tabs-3

grace and peace ........
 
I'm not attacking anyone. I simply responded to your posts. Because God exalts an individual doesn't make one worthy to be exalted.

Was Mary worthy to be the one who bore Jesus? Was she more worthy than others? Some perhaps. Others, perhaps not. God simply decided to bestow the honor upon her. Did she say...it's about time you did something for me God? Nope. She recognized her own unworthiness and worshipped God for His favor. Our response should be likewise.

It's all about God. Great things He has done
You are missing the point.
 
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You are missing the point.
No I'm not. You have missed my point from the outset. There is nothing in us to commend us to God except Christ and that we are in Him. And anything that commends us is due to Him.

You seem to want to take some glory to yourself.
 
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You stopped being serious poster a long time ago.

Sounds a bit like sour grapes.:unsure:

I am sure it must be a bitter pill to swallow ...... your soteriology has been shown to be false over and over again.

It is for the best really.

We are called to expose false teachings, we have done so very successfully.
 
Sounds a bit like sour grapes.:unsure:

I am sure it must be a bitter pill to swallow ...... your soteriology has been shown to be false over and over again.

It is for the best really.

We are called to expose false teachings, we have done so very successfully.
More poor discernment. And if you have done such a good job, why are so many unpersuaded by your arguments?
 
More poor discernment. And if you have done such a good job, why are so many unpersuaded by your arguments?

I think there is strong evidence that a "good argument" is insufficient to break psychological programming, but on the basis of biblical evidence your soteriology has been shown to be completely false....

.....regeneration does not precede faith.
 
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I think there is strong evidence that a "good argument" is insufficient to break psychological programming, but on the basis of biblical evidence your soteriology has been shown to be completely false....

.....regeneration does not precede faith.
You have too high an opinion of the fallen natural man and too small a view of God. Ask @Genez why God must first come to an individual to enable the individual to believe.

"We" doesn't even agree on doctrine.

While you are at it, tell @Genez your eschatology and see how profound you find his discernment.
 
You have too high an opinion of the fallen natural man and too small a view of God. Ask @Genez why God must first come to an individual to enable the individual to believe.

"We" doesn't even agree on doctrine.

Okay, but remember ... regeneration never precedes faith. :)