Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

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Grace causes one to hear and frees the soul to accept or reject.
I would think that grace "allows" one to hear and "keeps the door open" to accept or reject.

God is forcing nobody, ever. A fact antithetical/anathema to all things and persons Reformed.
 
this little monkey says that you learnt all by yourself 😋

Proverbs 14:6


The mocker seeks wisdom and finds none, but knowledge comes easily to the discerning.

A scoffer seeks wisdom in vain, but knowledge is easy for a man of understanding.

A mocker searches for wisdom without finding it, but knowledge comes easily to a person who has understanding.


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Proverbs 14:6


The mocker seeks wisdom and finds none, but knowledge comes easily to the discerning.

A scoffer seeks wisdom in vain, but knowledge is easy for a man of understanding.

A mocker searches for wisdom without finding it, but knowledge comes easily to a person who has understanding.

.......
this little monkey says you pull tails and tell tails 😋


 
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Do you know what amoral means?

If you think you knew good and evil from birth, you are not human.

Our nature doesn't determine what we know but what we think, say and do. "Amoral" means being neither moral or immoral. And no human being has the power to change his immutable nature per the First Law of Logic known as the Law of Identity and per scripture! Even God Almighty himself doesn't have that power! But then...because of your low view of sin and high view of man you do think that man can do things God can't.
 
That is just the way brightfame52 is. Little substance and thinks he has a monopoly on the truth so can simply tell you you're wrong.
I jumped ship from this thread and had the pleasure of engaging with sincere, knowledgeable, scholarly posters in matters of scripture in the spirit of good faith and fellowship.

A refreshing departure to say the least.
 
I would think that grace "allows" one to hear and "keeps the door open" to accept or reject.

God is forcing nobody, ever. A fact antithetical/anathema to all things and persons Reformed.
but yet you force your opinions on us everyday, go figure 🙃
 
I would think that grace "allows" one to hear and "keeps the door open" to accept or reject.

God is forcing nobody, ever. A fact antithetical/anathema to all things and persons Reformed.

I think God makes the truth perspicuous. We might simply get bogged down in semantics but consider the antagonistic Pharisees, they didn't just hear what Christ said and scratch there heads wondering what He meant, especially when claiming to be God, but actually understood what He meant because they wanted to stone Him.

As a comparison. There are times I hear what my pastor says (ie.I know what he is saying) but I don't really understand it, leastwise not fully. I put that down to missing some element of understanding that the current teaching is built upon. In those times I simply keep it hidden in my heart and then when I have sufficient information, the Lord pulls it out (so to speak) and makes it understandable.

In that sense I would describe grace doing more than "allowing one to hear".

I think "keeping the door open" is most probably a good a way as any to say "frees the soul".

I agree God is forcing no-one to believe. He does force at times in the sense He overwhelms us with His power so that we are unable to do anything but His will. (Balaam is an example of that when only able to speak the Lord's word) There are also those who will go into the lake of fire. There is no choice there, God fulfills His word with overwhelming power.
 
I think God makes the truth perspicuous. We might simply get bogged down in semantics but consider the antagonistic Pharisees, they didn't just hear what Christ said and scratch there heads wondering what He meant, especially when claiming to be God, but actually understood what He meant because they wanted to stone Him.

As a comparison. There are times I hear what my pastor says (ie.I know what he is saying) but I don't really understand it, leastwise not fully. I put that down to missing some element of understanding that the current teaching is built upon. In those times I simply keep it hidden in my heart and then when I have sufficient information, the Lord pulls it out (so to speak) and makes it understandable.

In that sense I would describe grace doing more than "allowing one to hear".

I think "keeping the door open" is most probably a good a way as any to say "frees the soul".

I agree God is forcing no-one to believe. He does force at times in the sense He overwhelms us with His power so that we are unable to do anything but His will. (Balaam is an example of that when only able to speak the Lord's word) There are also those who will go into the lake of fire. There is no choice there, God fulfills His word with overwhelming power.
It's called God giving clear instruction to act 🙂
 
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Our nature doesn't determine what we know but what we think, say and do. "Amoral" means being neither moral or immoral. And no human being has the power to change his immutable nature per the First Law of Logic known as the Law of Identity and per scripture! Even God Almighty himself doesn't have that power! But then...because of your low view of sin and high view of man you do think that man can do things God can't.

It is not our nature that determines what we think, it is the word of God or the lies of Satan with which we think. We are born knowing neither, hence God could place the tree of knowledge of good and evil in the garden. We learn one or we learn the other, although usually more a mixture of both. Some though only prefer the lies and no truth at all. Only God's immutable nature is good, ours has been designed amoral and we have the capacity to become one or the other.

Unless you had terrible parents, you did not learn stealing is wrong after you became a Christian.

Those who learn from the Father come to Christ. Jn.6:45

Once again your assumptions do me a disservice.
 
Daniel was promoted to CHIEF of the "Magoi" , the elite senatorial scholar class.
One of the titles given to Daniel was Rab-mag, the Chief of the Magoi.

And yes Magoi is correct, Magi is not.
Daniel was an amazing believer ... brought to Babylon as a youth. Nebuchadnezzar told his eunuch to search out children in whom was no blemish, but well favoured, and skilful in all wisdom, and cunning in knowledge, and understanding science, and such as had ability in them to stand in the king's palace (Dan 1:4). Looking forward to seeing Daniel in new heaven/new earth ... :cool:

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