Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

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The free will camp assumes, with no supporting text and contrary to many verses that evidence the opposite, that the man of flesh is free to choose, and will believe, that which he can neither receive nor comprehend, and to which he is inherently opposed with his uncircumcised heart of stone. There is simply no getting around the fact that this is the core of their belief, and it flies in the face of what Scripture actually teaches about the natural man who is a slave to sin and lover of darkness refusing to come into the light, blinded to truth and under the power and influence of Satan: he serves the law of sin which brings forth fruit unto death, not life. Without the indwelling Holy Spirit of God, his incurably wicked heart cannot be changed. He hates God, rejects the light, and hears the gospel message as foolishness. Praise the Lord if He has set you free!
 
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Despite what the un-Biblical free will doctrine promoters put forth, the natural man does not have everything he needs in order to grow the good fruit of faith from the stony ground of his incurably wicked heart which is opposed to the things of God, and he cannot change himself, being a lover of darkness who suppresses the truth in unrighteousness as a slave to sin, being inherently hostile in his mind toward God, and blinded to the truth while under the power of the evil one. Those who promote the free will of the natural man reject a plethora of Biblical truths. Praise God if Jesus has set you free!
 
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"Free will" in the Bible? ~ Freedom is something believers are called to (Galatians 5 verse 13). We need Jesus to “set us free” (Galatians 5 verse 1). If Jesus has not freed us from the bondage of sin, then we are still slaves to sin (Romans 6 verses 6-7). Freedom is found in the presence of the Spirit (2 Corinthians 3 verse 17). Only Jesus can give us true freedom (John 8 verse 36). Only through His lovingkindness can we truly make choices unfettered by a nature that is inherently hostile toward God.
 
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[QUOTE="Genez, post: 5638231, member: 262512"] Agape is a selfless, unconditional, and sacrificial form of love that prioritizes the good of others without expecting anything in return.

Agape is an impersonal form of love.
It does not take things done in reaction to itself personally.
It does not react to the negativity, and toss that snarling one away from itself.
Agape love is not caused by the object, but by the integrity of the one who is loving by nature. (God is love)

It is like a kindhearted person finding a wounded wild animal caught in a trap.
The kindhearted person wanting to help, will ignore the snarls and snips that the animal might make while he carefully neutralizes the trap.

It is only after the animal is set free, that the animal learns to appreciate the person that he had once shown fear and hatred towards.

That may be an apt way to describe the salvation experience of certain people and how agape love works.
God (agape) loves the sinner who in effect can be resentful of God.

Phileo love, on the other hand. Is personal love. One of personal rapport and mutual respect.
There can be no personal love towards someone showing hatred and resentment.
Only agape love would be able to be in effect.......[/QUOTE]

More lies! You're on a hell-inspired roll today, for your spiritual daddy, aren't you? Agape love is conditional (Ex 20:5-6; Ps 32:10; 86:5; 103:11, 17; 146:8; Jn 14 21, 23; 15:10; 16:27)., sacrificial, eternal and MORAL in nature since this kind of love fulfills the Law and the Prophets (Mat 22:40).

And to even suggest that God's love for his saints isn't personal, intimate, filial and covenantal is blasphemous. We're to believe that God's holy love is cold, unfeeling, calculating and impersonal even though He has adopted all his children into his holy and royal family (Rom 8:23) , and disciplines them as a loving earthly father would (Heb 12:6)? And even though Christ's Church is designated as his Bride (Jn 3:29; Rev 21:2, 9)? Is that the kind of love that the Father had for his Son, also (Jn 15:10)!?

And the children of God are NEVER under his wrath. He punishes (disciplines) his children for His own glory and their good!
 
Magenta said:
My understanding is that righteous anger acts against evil. It is not selfish or self-motivated.
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Righteous anger is seldom exercised. It's source stems from an offense of God, not self. So an offense to us would not be included under righteous anger.
 
Cameron143 said:
Being a Christian means he can get away with it 70 X 7 times.
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That means to have a forgiving heart, but what's he doing is hes deliberately being cruel.

So there is a difference cam, and I'm puting up with more than you know from him, so I'm sorry I don't have to prove my heart to a mean person.
 
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Jordon said:
That means to have a forgiving heart, but what's he doing is hes deliberately being cruel.

So there is a difference cam, and I'm puting up with more than you know from him, so I'm sorry I don't have to prove my heart to a mean person.
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Jesus had people being cruel to the point of death and He forgave them.
 
HeIsHere said:
The worst place to be is trapped in "doctrines of grace* false dogma.
It seems to create problems with comprehension.
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"trapped in doctrines of grace"? Really? That's a truly astounding statement. We are saved by grace. You are saying that that which sets us free traps us? Incredible!
 
rogerg said:
"trapped in doctrines of grace"? Really? That's a truly astounding statement. We are saved by grace. You are saying that that which sets us free traps us? Incredible!
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"Doctrines of Grace" (so called) aka >>> TULIP!

Lots of anecdotal evidence coming out for how it damages the soul and the spirit, but people escape maybe you will too one day.
 
Cameron143 said:
Jesus had people being cruel to the point of death and He forgave them.
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First thing First Cameron Jesus said perhaps pontas pilate was a guilty of a worse sin than the Jews, meaning pontas pilate knew Jesus was innocent, where as Did the Jewish council really know Jesus was innocent. Is genez innocent Cameron ?

If you want to talk about forgiveness, here's the thing Cameron, in my heart I can't forgive someone unless i tell a person directly what's causing my heart to be heavy by the way a person is acting and sinning against me.

The word says I can forget there sins as i do but I don't have to forgive like Jesus does unless they repent to me personally.

And that's the way my heart is.

So you may say I'm not forgiving, but no you would be completely wrong.
 
HeIsHere said:
"Doctrines of Grace" (so called) aka >>> TULIP!

Lots of anecdotal evidence coming out for how it damages the soul and the spirit, but people escape maybe you will too one day.
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Impossible to be trapped by Grace. We can only be trapped by law and works unto sin - the polar opposite of Grace. Grace is unto freedom from sin. Perhaps you don't understand Grace, believing it is from law and works.
 
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Cameron143 said:
I know what the rapture is as well as the millennium even though those terms are not in scripture.
You didn't answer my question: does God only own the cattle on a 1000 hills? Also, still haven't seen your outline on the books of Deuteronomy and Revelation. Also, did you ask @HeIsHere about her understanding of eschatology?
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:ROFL::ROFL::ROFL: You're a very brave soul for even wanting to go there...
 
Genez said:
You sure know your verses.
But, do not know them.

Interesting. Satan was sounding like a concerned friend (in the Greek) when he wanted to appear like he was concerned about starving Jesus, to suggest that Jesus turn the stones into bread. He made an appeal like someone concerned with Jesus' welfare. It is to be found in the Greek, not the generic renderings of too many English translations.

Evil is merciless deception.
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You mean just like SIN is (Heb 3:13)?
 
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