Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

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Blue155 said:
That is being very selective. When people says stuff about her drawings, you comment on that, but not when she posts a personal picture of someone and then criticizes it?
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They are not drawings. Your assumptions are just that. You make all kinds of personal comments, hypocrite.
And you are also very selective in who you support. More of your hypocrisy. What a shining example you are NOT.

Why are his false opinions more valuable to you than my honest opinion???

Never mind. I cannot expect an honest answer from you.
 
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Jordon said:
or well bullying gives me the creeps

Or people using you as a donkey gives me the creeps

Or people calling every word of God Calvinism gives me the creeps

That's the real truth bro
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People like Blue and B_H blather on about Calvinism as if it is supposed to mean something.

When it is just a logical fallacy on an endless loop. Their maggot infested beard.

Birds of a feather they fly together.
 
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Magenta said:
People like Blue and B_H blather on about Calvinism as if it is supposed to mean something.

When it is just a logical fallacy on an endless loop. Their maggot infested beard.
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cs1 called it out for what it was

They want it to mean something to you.

they can be all authoritive, with a firing excuse

There legends in there own mind
 
Jordon said:
cv5 called it out for what it was

They want it to mean something to you.

they can be all authoritive, with a firing excuse

There legends in there own mind
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OR: "LEGENDS IN THEIR OWN LUNCHTIMES"; as the saying used to say!
 
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BillyBob said:
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA! You kidding, aren't you?
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I think you are misunderstanding what I said earlier, and it is turning into something I never intended.

When I told Magenta that I wanted to stick with Scripture, I was speaking specifically to her because of the way she was engaging with me. Her posts have repeatedly included hard to read font colors, off putting images, and personal remarks about my character. In that situation, I was saying, in effect, “Let us please keep it to Bible verses and not all the extra stuff.”

That is very different from making a universal rule that I must only ever quote Scripture with everyone, in every context, both on this forum and in real life. I never said that, and I do not believe that. There is a clear difference between:
  1. Occasionally using logic, illustration, or other points alongside Scripture to refute Calvinism and defend free will, and
  2. Filling posts with distracting fonts, pictures that several people find off putting, and constant accusations about someone’s character.
My comment to Magenta was about the second situation. It was not a blanket rule for every discussion partner. It was simply my way of saying, “Given the way you are interacting with me, I would prefer to focus on the Bible with you.” That does not “handcuff” me from using other kinds of arguments or illustrations with others in the thread, and it certainly does not bind me outside of the forum. I was talking to her, not issuing a new Bible commandment.

As for the comic book page, you also missed the point there. I did not create that page, but I used it as an illustration. In the story, an all powerful being (the Beyonder) forces a girl to “love” him. She says all the right words and even believes she loves him, but he explains that her love is not genuine, because it is produced by his power controlling her. Once he releases her from that control, she would go back to what she was before whereby she did not freely love him.

That picture was meant to show why forced “love” is not really love at all. In my view, the god of Calvinism functions like the Beyonder: he irresistibly causes certain people to “love” him, which raises serious questions about whether that love is truly free and genuine. That was the point of the analogy, nothing more and nothing less.


Side Note:

Oh, and I am not unaware of what is really going on here, either. I know that when someone has no solid response to what Scripture actually teaches, the next move is often to attack the other person instead of the argument. That is what is happening here. My words are being twisted into something I never meant, simply because my biblical points cannot be refuted.

This is not the first time I have experienced this with certain Calvinists. In past discussions, I have also encountered unfair treatment and tactics that were not honest or charitable. So I cannot say I am surprised to see the same pattern repeat itself.

But even so, we are all accountable before God for how we treat one another. Every believer should strive to reflect Christ, not resort to misrepresentation or mockery. There will be a Judgment, and the Lord sees every motive clearly. None of us will “get away” with anything done unjustly.

I truly hope that changes are made, because following Jesus means pursuing truth and integrity in all things. I am far from perfect myself, but I sincerely want to live in a way that honors the grace He has given me. I pray for the same for all of us here.

May the Lord Jesus Christ bless you.




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