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Lol. Thanks.I'm impressed, Bro! Good on you! You're a true Christian, sir!
Lol. Thanks.I'm impressed, Bro! Good on you! You're a true Christian, sir!
was this word in you from the beginningto think we could even choose for God. (even while God was administering his power of grace, needed to place us in such a position).
2 Thessalonians 2:10 KJV
1) Everyone born into this world comes into it spiritually perished (dead).
2) Everyone born into this world comes into it not loving the truth
3) The "everyone" (1 & 2 above) includes both the elect who will eventually become saved, and the non-elect who will never become saved.
4) Therefore, the "might be saved" of the verse, encompasses both groups: the elect and the non-elect.
5) Consequently, since some will be saved and some won't be saved, the "might" (which your interpretation hangs upon) does not imply the possibility of salvation for everyone but holds it out only for the elect group- they will satisfy the “might” part of the total when viewed in totality.
6) The elect - those predestinated to salvation - will be made spiritually alive by God: un-perished
7) The elect - those predestinated to salvation - will be given a love of the truth by God
8) Even though born being perished and also not loving the truth, God, through Jesus Christ the Savior, through salvation grants them all of those things
In closing, it is clear that God does not enlighten all people, only those He saves
what word is in you from the beginning sir
was this word in you from the beginning![]()
was this word in you from the beginning![]()
well we will start with what life is in you from the begining thenWhat word?
Which beginning?
Do you even know what you are doing?
does the life know his wordWhat word?
Which beginning?
Do you even know what you are doing?
do you ?Buzz words of a sect do not register outside the sect.
You do not know what you are toying with.
noYou have your own understanding of what you asked.
I do not.
You are toying with me.
no
I'm locking on with you![]()
aww life is to short sir.This is what you got?
I am too old for these games you play.
That is stupid....aww life is to short sir.
I was being a good teacher I thought.
Ok so the life has always been, and the life knows the word as it's spoken to you.
Lol ok try this then.That is stupid....
Try that on someone your own age.
The world God loved, could not love the world like God could.This is what you got?
I am too old for these games you play.
Life in its self was not a mistake, the mistake was life did not accept life from life, without the acceptance being provided, it would be impossible, but the acceptance was provided, and the life still did not accept, because God had decreed it should and it never. His life sold it's self to sin out of thinking it could live.Why focus there or anywhere of flesh nature. Why not ask God for the new life offered and then begin new and see new. No more getting caught up in religion(s)
that is what has been happening here in this world. People gathering together with I am right those over there are wrong. is that attitude good for any one of us?
I remember when I drank too much. I remember religion telling me I better stop or else, attitudes they gave me, and so yes I rebelled and would not join them. I drank too much for 14 years after my sister died on an overdose at age 18, I was 14 when she died.
Then at age 21 my eldest Brother John, who died shortly after telling me this: he was 31
He said to me, and started out belligerently to tell me to stop the drinking. I saw him stop, as if someone stopped him and I then saw him step back, Then came Back forward to me and said to me/ all I can tell you is: my drinking was not good for me. I was not told to quit or else. Just told truth, it was not good for me.
It was not until 7 years later, I saw the truth and agreed it is not good for me to continue it. I have now been dry for over 40 years. Because I agreed with God, what I had been doing was not good for me. I did not have to quit, I chose to by the love and mercy of God for us all, thanks. The new view from Father's view Romans 12:2 ask Dad for ?Dad's view through Son to you, and learn truth over many errors in this world still here.
How convenient for you that "all men" doesn't mean all men.![]()
Not:
[2Pe 1:1 KJV] 1 Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ:
The word “might” expresses a real possibility that was offered. It does not describe a predetermined outcome in which the elect are guaranteed to be saved and the non-elect never could have been.
The offer of truth is real.
The possibility of salvation is real.
But a person must receive that truth wholeheartedly rather than turn aside, even partially, to something else that draws the heart away. God wants us, but we must embrace the love of the truth continually and completely.
I say He gives us faith and you supply a verse that says exactly that but you say I'm wrong?
How about that verse along with this one.
John 6:29
Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He sent.”
It is as I said, He tells us to believe and He gives us faith.