Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

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how does the flesh accept the gospel tho

The Holy Spirit holds down and restrains the depravity of the flesh that dominates over the soul....

And, in doing so?
It allows the soul to consider what it is that he heard.

That action of the Holy Spirit is referred to as the grace of God.
That is why we must be saved by grace!
 
There is no pride in humility, repentance and trusting in another for salvation.
If you were so secure in your "TULIP" system you would never need to resort to this type of distortion.

It really is quite sad when this insecurity is evident over and over again and yet there you be.

Who are you directing this to?
 
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The Holy Spirit holds down and restrains the depravity of the flesh that dominates over the soul....

And, in doing so?
It allows the soul to consider what it is that he heard.

That action of the Holy Spirit is referred to as the grace of God.
That is why we must be saved by grace!

That's unbiblical view
 
Were sinners.


Are you claiming that you can never sin again?

You still can sin because you still live in a fallen body.
If you walk in the Spirit you will not harmonize with the desires of your flesh.

Anyone who says he does not ever sin is a liar and the truth is not in him.

If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word is not in us.
1 John 1:10​
grace and peace ...........
 
Are you claiming that you can never sin again?

You still can sin because you still live in a fallen body.
If you walk in the Spirit you will not harmonize with the desires of your flesh.

Anyone who says he does not ever sin is a liar and the truth is not in him.

If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word is not in us.
1 John 1:10​
grace and peace ...........

It's obviously a matter of semantics. The bible calls those who work evil without regard to God, sinners. I am not one of those people. People who strive to do righteousness are not sinners, even though they are not without sin.
 
It's obviously a matter of semantics. The bible calls those who work evil without regard to God, sinners. I am not one of those people. People who strive to do righteousness are not sinners, even though they are not without sin.
Again... Evil is not the same thing as sin. Though sins can be evil.

Show us one verse where is says Jesus died for evil and you might have something.

Every evil person is a sinner.
But, not every sinner is evil.
 
Are you claiming that you can never sin again?

You still can sin because you still live in a fallen body.
If you walk in the Spirit you will not harmonize with the desires of your flesh.

Anyone who says he does not ever sin is a liar and the truth is not in him.

If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word is not in us.
1 John 1:10​
grace and peace ...........


In the last few verses of the Bible when it states "and if any man take away from the words of the book of this prophecy God shall take away his part out of the book of life."

You can not be taken out of a book you were never in. And you cannot be in that book unless you were saved.

So while no power, principally, man, angel or government can take you out of that book or out of Jesus hand. God who put you in there can. Not only does his inspired word state that it also gives a reason why he would do that.

It goes completely against the P in that acronym in my opinion. When it says "God shall take away"... it is saying He put you in there He can take you out.
 
The Holy Spirit holds down and restrains the depravity of the flesh that dominates over the soul....

And, in doing so?
It allows the soul to consider what it is that he heard.

That action of the Holy Spirit is referred to as the grace of God.
That is why we must be saved by grace!
I agree with this m

Aww I'm sorry I have you all wrong I've been reading your posts.
 
Again... Evil is not the same thing as sin. Though sins can be evil.

Show us one verse where is says Jesus died for evil and you might have something.

Every evil person is a sinner.
But, not every sinner is evil.

Evil works sin. All sin is evil because sin is unrighteousness, and God is not the author of unrighteousness

Jesus died for the penalty of working evil so that we can be free of evil's power in order to work righteousness.
 
Again... Evil is not the same thing as sin. Though sins can be evil.

Show us one verse where is says Jesus died for evil and you might have something.

Every evil person is a sinner.
But, not every sinner is evil.

I dont know what are you utterly about?
 

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Suppose you found an ad in the paper that went out to everyone. The ad said “Hi! If you’re reading this ad, you have been called to receive a free prize on Friday. All you need to do from now until then is highlight the ad with a red highlighter, then come to the local mall at two o’clock with the ad highlighted in red. At 2:05, a bell will sound alerting the workers to give the prize. You will receive the prize due to meeting the call and its conditions in the ad.”

Now here’s the question: What was chosen/predestined?

Was it all the people who showed up at the mall?

Or was it the ad and its conditions, as well as the prize?

Clearly, what was chosen/predestined was the “plan”. The plan of how to receive the free prize, neither of which was deserved or earned. That was by grace. The result of meeting the conditions was the free prize. Both was not of works. It was based on grace. The “ad” describing how to receive the prize went out to everyone, but only those who “answered” the ad received the prize.

The plan (the ad and its conditions) and the result (receiving the prize) was foreknown, predestined, and ordained by the mall. The mall did not predestine or ordain man’s response to the call/plan/ad. The people at the mall foreknew not all would come, but they left it up to all to make their choice. Their foreknowledge did not cause anyone to come or not come. The plan and result was fixed before anyone responded.

Just as the mall predestined what would happen to whoever showed up, God predestined what would happen to whoever is in Christ—they will be adopted, justified, conformed, and glorified. And that’s the way it is with the gospel plan of salvation. God gave us the way to be saved through Jesus and the gospel. The gospel call goes out to and is for everyone (Rms. 1:16). The way to be saved through Christ (obedience to the gospel call and following Him, Acts 2:38-39; 2 Thess. 2:14; Heb. 5:9; Jn. 10:27-28) and the result (promise of salvation, eternal life, the eternal inheritance) is what has been foreknown, predestined, ordained (Eph. 1:11; 1 Peter 1:1-5; Titus 1:1-2). Man’s response, however, was not. God did not predestine, ordain or predetermine man’s response to the gospel. He left that up to man to decide (2 Tim. 2:21-22). God foreknew not everyone would come to Jesus to be saved (Mt. 7:21), so many are called by the gospel denote all kinds of people and ethnicity: Jew/Gentile, rich, poor, male, female slave, free (Acts 2:17-18; Gal. 3:28). But because not everyone chooses to answer the gospel call (2 Thess. 2:14; Acts 2:39 that is for all humanity (Mk. 16:15) few are chosen.

For those who have answered and responded to the gospel call of salvation, it has been foreknown and predestined that those who done so would be conformed to the image of His Son, as well as justified, and glorified. Those who are called were called by the gospel, and those who He called are Christians/the church/the body of believers. He has predestined, elected and conformed the church to be the image of His Son, as the church is the fulness of Jesus (Eph. 1:23). The result of being a Christian is what was elected/foreknown/predestined, which is adoption as sons by Jesus Christ (Eph. 1:5). The result of answering the call to be the chosen in God’s elect—Jesus (1 Peter 2:6; Isaiah 42:1) is to be holy and without blame before Him in love (Eph. 1:4).
 
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Suppose you found an ad in the paper that went out to everyone. The ad said “Hi! If you’re reading this ad, you have been called to receive a free prize on Friday. All you need to do from now until then is highlight the ad with a red highlighter, then come to the local mall at two o’clock with the ad highlighted in red. At 2:05, a bell will sound alerting the workers to give the prize. You will receive the prize due to meeting the call and its conditions in the ad.”

Now here’s the question: What was chosen/predestined?

Was it all the people who showed up at the mall?

Or was it the ad and its conditions, as well as the prize?

Clearly, what was chosen/predestined was the “plan”. The plan of how to receive the free prize, neither of which was deserved or earned. That was by grace. The result of meeting the conditions was the free prize. Both was not of works. It was based on grace. The “ad” describing how to receive the prize went out to everyone, but only those who “answered” the ad received the prize.

The plan (the ad and its conditions) and the result (receiving the prize) was foreknown, predestined, and ordained by the mall. The mall did not predestine or ordain man’s response to the call/plan/ad. The people at the mall foreknew not all would come, but they left it up to all to make their choice. Their foreknowledge did not cause anyone to come or not come. The plan and result was fixed before anyone responded.

Just as the mall predestined what would happen to whoever showed up, God predestined what would happen to whoever is in Christ—they will be adopted, justified, conformed, and glorified. And that’s the way it is with the gospel plan of salvation. God gave us the way to be saved through Jesus and the gospel. The gospel call goes out to and is for everyone (Rms. 1:16). The way to be saved through Christ (obedience to the gospel call and following Him, Acts 2:38-39; 2 Thess. 2:14; Heb. 5:9; Jn. 10:27-28) and the result (promise of salvation, eternal life, the eternal inheritance) is what has been foreknown, predestined, ordained (Eph. 1:11; 1 Peter 1:1-5; Titus 1:1-2). Man’s response, however, was not. God did not predestine, ordain or predetermine man’s response to the gospel. He left that up to man to decide (2 Tim. 2:21-22). God foreknew not everyone would come to Jesus to be saved (Mt. 7:21), so many are called by the gospel denote all kinds of people and ethnicity: Jew/Gentile, rich, poor, male, female slave, free (Acts 2:17-18; Gal. 3:28). But because not everyone chooses to answer the gospel call (2 Thess. 2:14; Acts 2:39 that is for all humanity (Mk. 16:15) few are chosen.

For those who have answered and responded to the gospel call of salvation, it has been foreknown and predestined that those who done so would be conformed to the image of His Son, as well as justified, and glorified. Those who are called were called by the gospel, and those who He called are Christians/the church/the body of believers. He has predestined, elected and conformed the church to be the image of His Son, as the church is the fulness of Jesus (Eph. 1:23). The result of being a Christian is what was elected/foreknown/predestined, which is adoption as sons by Jesus Christ (Eph. 1:5). The result of answering the call to be the chosen in God’s elect—Jesus (1 Peter 2:6; Isaiah 42:1) is to be holy and without blame before Him in love (Eph. 1:4).
I'm not sure why your doing this m

But all are called can you see any Calvinists here ?

There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus
 
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So:

John 1:13, "children born not of natural descent [from human parents], nor of human decision [let's try for a baby] or a husband's will [let's have sex], but born of God [baptized with the HS per v.33]".

John 3:5-6, "unless a man is born of water [which exits the womb at birth] and the Spirit [by believing in the Son per v.15], he cannot enter the kingdom of God [have eternal life per v.16]; flesh gives birth to flesh [via DNA], but the Spirit gives birth to spirit [via faith in GW per v.18-21]".