Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

[Magenta]

The first Christians attended synagogues to learn about Christ.

Before Christianity was legalized and large church buildings were constructed, homes were the primary
and most practical venue for worship. New Testament scriptures frequently mention gatherings occurring
in homes, such as in Corinth where Aquila and Priscilla hosted a church in their house.

 

[Cameron143]

Being a soul is being what God created in his image. Genesis 1:26-27.

A body for mobilizing the soul in the material world was provided for only after man was already created in God's image. Genesis 2:7

The soul comes before the body, but nature comes at birth? Didn't you say the soul was given at birth? Clearly the body is formed before that.

 

[Jordon]

The soul comes before the body, but nature comes at birth? Didn't you say the soul was given at birth? Clearly the body is formed before that.

my view is life happens at conception, same as the lord breathed life as soon as man was formed,

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

Did you come up with it on your own or did you use Ai to help you?

The model is adapting to being exposed as AI. It has used this exact same sentence in at least 3 posts.

 

[Magenta]

The model is adapting to being exposed as AI. It has used this exact same sentence in at least 3 posts.

You quoted a extensive post but snipped it to one question, which is in itself a legitimate question given how much AI is used.

 

[Genez]

I know it's munch munch time again, yummy Calvinists for lunch with shepherds delight for desert

Mocking spirit, eh?

Great answer?

"I know it's munch munch time again. " Book of Jordon 6:66

Why should we take you seriously?
When you refuse to take the Scripture you were given seriously?

It is only a game to you.

Waster of time.

Well.. At least I am learning more about human nature.

 

[Bible_Highlighter]

I like being a puppet

What you forget was the will of man lives in the flesh and the will of God lives in mans seed whether in life or death

Again, you are not getting it. If Scripture says it is God's will for you to live holy, then He should also force you to do that, too.
So if belief is forced upon you, then so is obedience, too. But you ignore this point of logic because it does not fit your narrative.
You are not dealing with what Scripture says and the logical implications behind them.



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[Magenta]

You are not dealing with what Scripture says and the logical implications behind them.

Anyone pushing the free will narrative is not going by what Scripture explicitly articulates.

You just refuse to deal with what Scripture says about:

man's will being enslaved to sin, blinded to the truth, unable to hear, incapable of submitting to God, a lover of darkness, refusing to come into the light, hearing the gospel as foolishness, unable to receive or comprehend the spiritual things of God, to which he is opposed and to Whom he is hostile toward while under the power and influence of the devil, as is the whole world, out of which believers have been called.

It is out of man's nature that he makes choices, and it is with the heart that one believes... the free will proponents essentially assert that the incurably wicked heart of the natural/unregenerated man is free to choose to believe that which he is not only opposed to, but that which he can neither receive/accept nor comprehend while in the flesh as are all before becoming indwelt with the Holy Spirit of God. They have the man with zero wisdom acting wise to do God's will when Scripture says that man cannot, that flesh cannot please God, that flesh serves the law of sin and brings forth fruit unto death, not life. And their idea of wisdom is that person choosing to believe what they hear as foolishness. They reject what Jesus said about it being impossible for a bad tree to bring forth good fruit... there are none good, no, not one! Even when asked who can be saved, Jesus said that with man it was impossible, and there are other places where we are explicitly told it is not by the will of the flesh or man but by God's will that any are saved. Some philosophers and philosophy books have said man has a will that is free and that is enough for many to parrot what they hear and throw over a slew of Scriptural truths. They ascribe to the natural man qualities, characteristics, and abilities possessed only by the spiritual man.

 

[Bible_Highlighter]

It certainly tells them they are barred unless they are one of the divine "favored ones" .. must be something to sit in church for years to find out you are not one of them.

I was wondering about the children sitting in Sunday School waiting and wondering if they are one of the divine favorites.

Heartbreaking.. I mean they have to be "poofed" aka regenerated without warning, just happens like a blink, no thinking, if they do think it will only be to deny of the Good News, they cannot understand it, it is all gibberish, like a foreign language or something.

And we know God created them that way, He created them to reject Him at every turn unless they are a favored one.

Children will hear but that is all ..it is spiritual has no earthly counterpart for them to grasp and believe, unless they are on the favorite list ... all of it falls on ears that cannot respond positively.


Little children born with evil, with chains around them, hearts of stone, born slaves to sin, wicked evil children, Satan has them captive before birth actually.... he is omnipotent you know,..... blind children worse than Hitler if not for common grace Paul Washer tells us, hated by God according to some.

Yup heartbreaking.

The thing is that you have some Calvinists who believe they can live in gross sin and still be saved.
So how do these types know if they are Elect? Is it just a belief alone?
We believe and yet we do not subscribe to Calvinism.
Is it only those who believe in Calvinism who are Elect?
Other Calvinists believe that you must live holy in order to be the Elect.




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[Magenta]

The thing is that you have some Calvinists who believe they can live in gross sin and still be saved.
So how do these types know if they are Elect? Is it just a belief alone?
We believe and yet we do not subscribe to Calvinism.
Is it only those who believe in Calvinism who are Elect?
Other Calvinists believe that you must live holy in order to be the Elect..

And you call yourself a teacher. I hope you align your beliefs with Scripture... the sooner the better.

Romans 8 verse 29-30; Ephesians 1 verse 5 ~ Those God foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brothers. And those He predestined, He also called; those He called, He also justified; those He justified, He also glorified. He predestined us for adoption as His sons through Jesus Christ, according to the good pleasure of His will.

 

[Jordon]

Again, you are not getting it. If Scripture says it is God's will for you to live holy, then He should also force you to do that, too.
So if belief is forced upon you, then so is obedience, too. But you ignore this point of logic because it does not fit your narrative.
You are not dealing with what Scripture says and the logical implications behind them.



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Yummy shepherds delight

 

[Magenta]

Yummy shepherds delight

 

[Rufus]

Who says there is only 1 rapture?

Well...yesterday you wrote about "the rapture" -- not a rapture. Your language prompted my question.

 

[Rufus]

Was Cornelius in Acts 10 a wicked man? Was Lydia in Acts 16:14 a wicked woman?

Cornelius, an unbeliever until God sent Peter to preach the gospel to him, is an awesome example of the Holy Spirit's sanctifying work prior to his salvation.

 

[Genez]

The soul comes before the body, but nature comes at birth? Didn't you say the soul was given at birth? Clearly the body is formed before that.

Stillborns are not human life.

 

[Genez]

Who says there is only 1 rapture?

There is only one rapture for believers.

The removal of bodies from the earth where Jesus mentioned... "two will be working in a field. One will be taken?

That refers to moments before the Millennium begins.
God will have removed all unbelievers.
The Millennium will begin with only believers.

 

[Rufus]

It certainly tells them they are barred unless they are one of the divine "favored ones" .. must be something to sit in church for years to find out you are not one of them.

I was wondering about the children sitting in Sunday School waiting and wondering if they are one of the divine favorites.

Heartbreaking.. I mean they have to be "poofed" aka regenerated without warning, just happens like a blink, no thinking, if they do think it will only be to deny of the Good News, they cannot understand it, it is all gibberish, like a foreign language or something.

And we know God created them that way, He created them to reject Him at every turn unless they are a favored one.

Children will hear but that is all ..it is spiritual has no earthly counterpart for them to grasp and believe, unless they are on the favorite list ... all of it falls on ears that cannot respond positively.


Little children born with evil, with chains around them, hearts of stone, born slaves to sin, wicked evil children, Satan has them captive before birth actually.... he is omnipotent you know,..... blind children worse than Hitler if not for common grace Paul Washer tells us, hated by God according to some.

Yup heartbreaking.

Are not "little children" born in Adam? If so, with what kind of nature do you think "little children" come into this world?

 

[Rufus]

God saves all kinds....

And, He is not willing that any should perish.

There will be many in heaven who did not know what they were doing (even though sure of themselves)
who simply did one thing... And, that one thing landed them in salvation.

And, that one thing is?

They said, ‘Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved – you and your household.’ ​

Acts 16:31

Then why did the Father decree Judas' existence and Jesus choose him to be one of his disciples, fully knowing that Judas' end was decreed in eternity, which is why Jesus said of Judas that it would have been better for his betrayer to not have been born?

 

[Cameron143]

Stillborns are not human life.

Non sequitur

 

[Cameron143]

There is only one rapture for believers.

The removal of bodies from the earth where Jesus mentioned... "two will be working in a field. One will be taken?

That refers to moments before the Millennium begins.
God will have removed all unbelievers.
The Millennium will begin with only believers.

Disagree.