Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

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I am convinced this "doctrine" if fully taken onboard affects the brain/soul/heart in a very negative way.

I think that way of thinking has such inherent contradictions with opposing, irreconcilable thoughts, that the more firmly they are embraced, the greater the frustrations and outward expressions of bile and anger.
 
Oh how you love those little traps.
Like I am supposed to know there were others.
Have a good day.
Not a trap. And I told you that I had done so. I simply used the first example. Still you can't admit your error and try to blame me rather than just say you are wrong.

Grace and peace.
 
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Yes, your free will doctrine had rotted your heart and soul to the point where you repeatedly blaspheme God and believe you are defending His character. You do this knowing you are wrong, unless you have not read the Bible at all, in which case, what are you even doing here? Oh, well, it could be just to misrepresent yourself which you do often, and misrepresent others, which you do often, and misrepresent Scripture, which you do often. You also support others who blaspheme God. Yes, the fruits of your doctrine are rotten to the core. One does not need to be a "fruit inspector" as you say, to see this.
"And by "Bible Study materials" I don't mean a punctuation-less paragraph consisting of a tirade of opinionated yet unbiblical gibberish."
 
Let me ask @cv5 a rhetorical question

Let's see if he answers

Do you believe in knocking people down a peg or two
 
You know little buddy, your "hall monitor" routine really is becoming tedious and exasperating.
Could you perhaps consider "changing gears" and get in the habit of OFFERING us some wonderful edifying enlightening BIBLE STUDY materials that you have discovered and use?

And by "Bible Study materials" I don't mean a punctuation-less paragraph consisting of a tirade of opinionated yet unbiblical gibberish.

I for one am not particularly interested in wasting valuable time stuck in the sandpit of childish antics and banter.
And yet you can't stop responding or admit your error.

If someone were to make a false claim about you, would you ask for the proof concerning the accusation?
 
I think that way of thinking has such inherent contradictions with opposing, irreconcilable thoughts, that the more firmly they are embraced, the greater the frustrations and outward expressions of bile and anger.
I post Scripture a lot, I do not believe the verses oppose each other, what happens though is free willers contradict and outright deny what the Bible says, and even rewrite verses they don't like. You ignoring this is more of your CDS; how it has affected you is shocking. Your bile and anger come through when you do things like tell Cameron he is a gnostic, or claim I must be talking about feelings because you are clueless about what I am really saying, you just keep pretending I am saying something other than what I plainly say, because you refuse to admit the truth, that people who do not steal for fear of being caught are not walking in the spirit.
 
*not necessarily walking in the spirit. Your claim that anyone not breaking the law is
walking in the spirit is flat out wrong but will you ever admit it? That remains to be seen.
No, instead you make random false assertions and pretend I am saying things I am not.
Behold the fruits of your CDS. You even claim enabling is required but that enabled is the
wrong word because it violates your idea of free will, then you give meanings that obliterate
free will entirely, such inherent contradictions with opposing, irreconcilable thoughts, that the
more firmly they are embraced, the greater the frustrations and outward expressions of bile and anger.


@ChristRoseFromTheDead
 
The wages for sin is death m

Did you free yourself from death
Rom 5:15
But the gracious gift is not like the offense. For if by the offense of the one the many died, much more did the grace of God and the gift by the grace of the one Man, Jesus Christ, overflow to the many.
 
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I think that way of thinking has such inherent contradictions with opposing, irreconcilable thoughts, that the more firmly they are embraced, the greater the frustrations and outward expressions of bile and anger.
This explains so well your position and why you are so bilious after your self-contradictions, thanks for that.
 
She will applaud and agree with people who blaspheme God, which she also does = the fruit of her CDS.
she seems to think we don't chasten the one we love.

I mean that would be against God's will wouldn't it.

Or maybe she forgets we ask in a kind way first.

The benefit of doubt doesn't apply to us, apparently
 
Rom 5:15
But the gracious gift is not like the offense. For if by the offense of the one the many died, much more did the grace of God and the gift by the grace of the one Man, Jesus Christ, overflow to the many.
I asked you sir. I know you can answer with someone elses faith if you want to m

As the bible is mostly expressions of his faith being spoken from people.

So now I'm asking you as if God was asking you m

Did you free yourself from death
 
I think that way of thinking has such inherent contradictions with opposing, irreconcilable thoughts, that the more firmly they are embraced, the greater the frustrations and outward expressions of bile and anger.
Immense and ever-increasing cognitive dissonance pressure blowing out the psychological gaskets?
 
I asked you sir. I know you can answer with someone elses faith if you want to m

As the bible is mostly expressions of his faith being spoken from people.

So now I'm asking you as if God was asking you m

Did you free yourself from death

John 3:16~~
“For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life.

Acts 16
30and after he brought them out, he said, “Sirs, what must I do to be saved?”

31They said, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household.” 32And they spoke the word of God to him together with all who were in his house.

 
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John 3:16~~
“For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life.

Acts 16
30and after he brought them out, he said, “Sirs, what must I do to be saved?”

31They said, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household.” 32And they spoke the word of God to him together with all who were in his house.

you still haven't answered sir if your saved in his living hope,

Do know about a worker who does not need to be ashamed m and who correctly acknowledges the word of truth, it is cited
 
you still haven't answered sir if your saved in his living hope,

Do know about a worker who does not need to be ashamed m and who correctly acknowledges the word of truth, it is cited
John 3:16~~
“For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life.

Acts 16
30and after he brought them out, he said, “Sirs, what must I do to be saved?”

31They said, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household.” 32And they spoke the word of God to him together with all who were in his house.