Does it bother you that they have a coordinated effort and even "five years plans" to infiltrate the seminaries and Evangelical Baptist churches with their false doctrine?
Can We Really Exercise Free Will?
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Does it bother you that they have a coordinated effort and even "five years plans" to infiltrate the seminaries and Evangelical Baptist churches with their false doctrine?
funny I always thought the element of doubt is your favourite passion mA bit of reverse psychology at play..
He, @Bible_Highlighter, is actually very correct in that post, that is what lays underneath the fancy rhetoric in their books and sermons.
Yes those trapped in this miserable supposed soteriology want company and that is why there is "stealth" Calvinism... look it up.
If we act fast, we can make this a really scary movie before Halloween!
Ducking out of your Calvinist belief system again are we?
Indeed, Calvinists betray their deep-seated shame in like manner often.
However, these persistent episodes of confusion, self-loathing, inner turmoil and bitterness can end. If you are WILLING to accept the fact that the gospel message is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believes......
This is so very true .... I am very convinced of the self-loathing and inner turmoil.
Romans 1:16
16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
Obviously Paul is asserting people are able to believe the Good News and nowhere in his work does he states belief is gifted after regeneration.
only if you change how the apples being eaten in duck apple, to one being dropped on there head so they hopefully become like albert Einstein, blessed with intelligence.
nice tulip for you oh kind sister
Together United loving in people
When it comes to real every day life, scripture instructs us to mark false teachers and stay away.
If you do this maybe you can escape the TULIP indoctrination you have suffered.
I hope you will, there must be evangelical non Reformed churches in your area.
However, these persistent episodes of confusion, self-loathing, inner turmoil and bitterness can end. If you are WILLING to accept the fact that the gospel message is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believes......
It's a simple thing to compare one's beliefs with these beliefs. If there's a match, simply abandon that belief as gnostic heresy.
- The belief that they are the enlightened elect and spiritually perfect, who because of their spiritual nature can never be lost no matter what behavior they practice. Against Heresies Book 1 Chapter 6 Paragraph 2
- The belief that grace can never be taken away from them because grace is their eternal possession joined to them in a mysterious union from above. Against Heresies Book 1 Chapter 6 Paragraph 4
- The belief that it is impossible for physical man to do anything good. ibid
- The belief that Christians who believe it is necessary to do good works are ignorant persons with a carnal nature and imperfect knowledge. ibid
- The belief that it is not righteous conduct that leads into eternal life (Pleroma), but it is the seed of grace within them that is brought to perfection through the perfect knowledge of their spiritual nature. ibid
- Total Depravity - Gnostics believed it was impossible for anything of the material world to do anything spiritual or good
- Unconditional Election - Gnostics believed they were the elect who had been predestined to salvation through gnosis
- Limited (Particular) Atonement - Gnostics believed only the elect were given gnosis
- Irresistible Grace - Gnostics believed they were given a special grace that was perfected by practicing gnosis, whereas a temporary grace was given to ignorant Christians so they could do good works
- Perseverance of the Saints - Gnostics believed they could never be lost no matter what they did because they were spiritual by nature
You are correct of course....
[Rom 10:8 NKJV]
But what does it say? "The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart" (that is, the word of faith which we preach):
[Rom 10:9 NKJV]
that ***if G1437*** you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.
[Rom 10:10 NKJV]
For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
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that ifἐὰν
(ean)1437: if (a conditional particle used like NG1487, but usually with the Gr. subjunctive mood)contr. from ei and an
The Greek particle ἐάν (Strong's number 1437) is a conditional conjunction meaning "if" (often implying a more probable or expected condition than the simpler εἰ). It is typically followed by a verb in the subjunctive mood.
What is the subjunctive mood?
The subjunctive mood in Ancient Greek expresses:
- Possibility, probability, or contingency (e.g., "if this should happen")
- Exhortation or command (in 1st person: "let us...")
- Purpose ("in order that...")
- Doubt, deliberation, or future intention
It is not about stating facts (that's the indicative mood) but about what might, could, or should occur.
Example with ἐάν (1437):
ἐὰν ἀγαπᾶτέ με, τὰς ἐντολάς μου τηρήσετε. (John 14:15) "If you love me (and you might), you will keep my commandments."
- ἐάν + ἀγαπᾶτε (present subjunctive) = ongoing possibility.
- The subjunctive reflects a real but uncertain condition.
In short: ἐάν (1437) introduces a condition using the subjunctive to show something possible or expected, not definite. The subjunctive mood is the "mood of contingency" — what may or should happen, not what is happening.
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One little lexical study and the Calvinists COULD be gathered under His wings and healed. But they are not WILLING.
Mat 23:37
“O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the one who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing!
I'm pretty certain that a lot of people unknowingly hold gnostic ideas because they're baked into Calvinist-influenced reformed thinking. Probably Catholicism too via Augustine