Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

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There is nothing more frustrating than trying to guess what a person believes when they will not tell you where they stand theologically. That person just then becomes an unnecessary challenge rather than a help if they are not upfront about their beliefs when we have these kinds of discussions. It will then fall into a "You called me something I don't like or agree with" kind of discussion. Then the crying and mudslinging begin. In other words, a lack of communication will only lead to more infighting.

The way I see it is, if you don’t contribute to the topic by telling us what you believe, then you are wasting everybody’s time.
God’s Word should not be hidden in the darkness.
Perhaps the mystery of hiding one’s belief is because they cannot defend their belief with Scripture?
This is most likely the case. I am happy to explain my beliefs on any topic in the Bible.
If I get something wrong, I am willing to be corrected.


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Or...you can become all things to all people...and prefer others before yourself.
 
Or...you can become all things to all people...and prefer others before yourself.

You assume that I am not doing that, which then leads to infighting.
Christ says, "Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them..." (Matthew 7:12 KJV).
Meaning, I and many others do not want to have to guess as to what another person believes, especially when asked.
Seeing, I do not want this done unto me, I love others in the fact that I tell them clearly about my beliefs to the best of my ability, so they know where I stand. I am not leaving them in the dark about what I believe God's Word says.
Jesus says, "...he that is greatest among you shall be your servant." (Matthew 23:11 KJV).



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I don't reject them, but that doesn't make me a "Calvinist."

I now understand you don't like the label "Calvinist" due to 1 Corinthians 3. I will also strive to say that I am not an Arminian or lean that way, even though I agree with certain teachings of Arminianism when it comes to this topic. But there are other Christians out there who are not afraid to call themselves Calvinist, and yet they do not accept everything John Calvin believed like infant baptism or his execution of Michael Servetus. Would you rebuke them for saying, "Hello my fellow Calvinist!" If so, I would respect that.

In any event, thank you for the 1 Corinthians 3 reminder.
I did before have a problem with Lutherans being called Lutherans, etc. because of 1 Corinthians 3.

May the Lord bless you.


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You assume that I am not doing that, which then leads to infighting.
Christ says, "Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them..." (Matthew 7:12 KJV).
Meaning, I and many others do not want to have to guess as to what another person believes, especially when asked.
Seeing, I do not want this done unto me, I love others in the fact that I tell them clearly about my beliefs to the best of my ability, so they know where I stand. I am not leaving them in the dark about what I believe God's Word says.
Jesus says, "...he that is greatest among you shall be your servant." (Matthew 23:11 KJV).



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Not assuming anything. Your insistence on using the term is the evidence.

Do what you like but don't pretend you are preferring others. You want it your way.
 
Not assuming anything. Your insistence on using the term is the evidence.

Do what you like but don't pretend you are preferring others. You want it your way.

You either have not been following along in the conversation carefully between Night Twister and me, or you simply are more interested in stirring up problems where none exist.

If you followed along, I clarified that I will make an effort not to call him or others a Calvinist in honor of 1 Corinthians 3.
However, that does not mean I cannot say they don't believe in the teachings of John Calvin when it comes to this particular topic.
Night Twister even just admitted to me he believes in his teachings on this topic just recently. But that does not stop others as using the label of Calvinist for themselves. Are you out to rebuke even them? Meaning if a Reformed believer came in this thread, and said, “Hello fellow Calvinist!” Would you rebuke him? Or is there only rebuke for us who do not hold to Reformed Theology?


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You're so smart. No wonder there are none hear that have you're vast knowledge. . . . . You should have made this statement using either Hebrew or Greek.
You don't need to tell us that many Calvinists enshrine ignorance and obfuscation little buddy. The spectacle of the Calvinists postings make us all aware of this phenomenon. ;)

But in the spirit of concern for the abovementioned sorry dilemma, allow me to in some small way mollify your crippling deficiency with even more valuable and edifying educational Bible trivia:

The so-called "Red Sea" crossing actually happened at the Gulf of Aqaba. Opposite Baal Zephon.
I would ask you to research the matter to confirm, but this may be asking far too much I know......:rolleyes:
 
I now understand you don't like the label "Calvinist" due to 1 Corinthians 3. I will also strive to say that I am not an Arminian or lean that way, even though I agree with certain teachings of Arminianism when it comes to this topic. But there are other Christians out there who are not afraid to call themselves Calvinist, and yet they do not accept everything John Calvin believed like infant baptism or his execution of Michael Servetus. Would you rebuke them for saying, "Hello my fellow Calvinist!" If so, I would respect that.

In any event, thank you for the 1 Corinthians 3 reminder.
I did before have a problem with Lutherans being called Lutherans, etc. because of 1 Corinthians 3.

May the Lord bless you.
I prefer "reformed", would be fine with "Reformed Presbyterian." Nobody I know who is reformed ever called me a "Calvinist." My beliefs are fairly well summarized in the Westminster Confession of Faith. There are a few things I disagree with in there (e.g. RPW), but not much.
 
You either have not been following along in the conversation carefully between Night Twister and me, or you simply are more interested in stirring up problems where none exist.

If you followed along, I clarified that I will make an effort not to call him or others a Calvinist in honor of 1 Corinthians 3.
However, that does not mean I cannot say they don't believe in the teachings of John Calvin when it comes to this particular topic.
Night Twister even just admitted to me he believes in his teachings on this topic just recently. But that does not stop others as using the label of Calvinists for themselves. Are you out to rebuke even them?


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You literally just changed your position.

My aim wasn't rebuke. I was attempting to help you. You were following a path that I've seen derail discussion and leads to strife. I saw this play out in the discussion and showed you why.
Having followed some of your other discussions, you seemed more interested in the exchange of ideas than division and strife. I saw the discussion derailing and offered some perspective. Make use of it or not.

Grace and peace.
 
There is nothing more frustrating than trying to guess what a person believes when they will not tell you where they stand theologically. That person just then becomes an unnecessary challenge rather than a help if they are not upfront about their beliefs when we have these kinds of discussions. It will then fall into a "You called me something I don't like or agree with" kind of discussion. Then the crying and mudslinging begin.
This is well known standardized Reformed/super-determinist gameplay sir.
Stick around here a while and you will encounter many more of these kinds of disturbing and unseemly psy-ops.

Truth MUST be avoided at all costs is the basic premise.
 
I prefer "reformed", would be fine with "Reformed Presbyterian." Nobody I know who is reformed ever called me a "Calvinist." My beliefs are fairly well summarized in the Westminster Confession of Faith. There are a few things I disagree with in there (e.g. RPW), but not much.
"Reformed" goes into the same big Calvinist bucket IMO.
 
However, that does not mean I cannot say they don't believe in the teachings of John Calvin when it comes to this particular topic.
I've never read John Calvin's works, so I can confidently say I don't believe in the teachings of John Calvin. I believe what the Bible teaches, and if some of that happens to be similar to what John Calvin taught, it is a coincidence.
Night Twister even just admitted to me he believes in his teachings on this topic just recently.
No I didn't. I've never read John Calvin's teachings.
 
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