They are and they are actually disrespecting the Lord which ends very, very badly.
Oh well, some people just have to learn the hard way!
Can We Really Exercise Free Will?
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They are and they are actually disrespecting the Lord which ends very, very badly.
Oh well, some people just have to learn the hard way!
It is a free willer specialty to despise God's sovereignty, along with hating on His plans and purposes
to the point where you call them "for no good reason." It is not even the only way you blaspheme God.
you must of forgot about the lamp that shines in the darkness for God's children inwardly
I know it was free will speaking
Which is saying my word will stand I will enforce it by what ever means
Such a wonderful imagination you have.
It's called being a little demi God
So, those who believe in a different soteriological order are tares. Do I have that right?
You have unwittingly exposed exactly the doctrine you are so vehemently exposed to.
You admit there are tares. Tares are NOT wheat. They grow amongst the wheat.
The tares will be uprooted, gathered, and destroyed. The wheat will be saved.
Tares don't and can't morph into wheat. Goats don't and can't morph into sheep.
Bad trees cannot morph into good trees and bear good fruit.
I thank you for bringing this Truth to light.
Be Blessed!
his gang can't even recognise a seed that dies bares much fruit m.
You've got no chance sadly. He's to busy demon-strating
Poor semantics---very poor. All living creatures have a nature. And the sin nature of humans is in the human heart, and desires are generated by three of the faculties in the heart -- mind, emotions and conscience, and all these in turn drive our choices. The bible doesn't speak to your theory of "reactive impulse"; but it has a great deal to say about human desires.
Why is there no limit to stupidity Lord?
They were condemned, they both died but they repented and believed so ended up in God's salvation plan.
The fact I even have to say this is unbelievable.
Repentance and faith is not found in Gen 3:15. But a divine decree is; and that decree did not condemn Eve, it forgave her since God reconcile her to Himself. There is zero evidence that Adam either repented or ever trusted the Lord; however, this is good evidence that eventually Eve did! Condemnation only applies to unbelievers, but God took care of that for Eve!
Of course, she is free! She has been set free FROM the power of sin, which empowers her to make godly choices. There is no true freedom that doesn't consist of freedom FROM a power that permits freedom TO respond appropriately to God. Freedom always rides on two rails.
This is the crux of this debate:
The Lord Jesus Christ lived and died for all. His free Grace gift is offered to you and me and everyone who has ever lived.
Today, at this moment , you can trust in Christ for eternal life. It is not just for "good and special" people.
We are all sinners in need of salvation. And The Lord Jesus Christ offers it to ALL.....Freely.
The none "freewillers" or reformed/calvie/tulip folks say that you may or may not have the opportunity to have eternal life.
The Bible is very clear that eternal life is an equal opportunity for ALL. And very simple.
Acts 16:31 Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and you shall be saved.
2 Cor 6:2
For He says: “In an acceptable time I have heard you, And in the day of salvation I have helped you.” Behold, now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation.
Rom 5:15
But the gracious gift is not like the offense. For if by the offense of the one the many died, much more did the grace of God and the gift by the grace of the one Man, Jesus Christ, overflow to the many.
There are folks and believers here that will hinder your CHOICE for the Lord Jesus Christ......Don't let them. You have the same privilege and opportunity that we have.
Again, proving your utter disdain for the supernatural nature of God's grace/power.
you Forgot to add living in hope, it's in his hope you get saved not by will not by choice not by trust of the unsaved, it's cited in scripture
And if your refering to people that hinder according to Calvinist bashing squad here . More fool you ,
Let's assume for a minute that you are correct. (After all, there are multiple scriptures that teach that man's ways are NOT in himself -- that God directs man's steps, etc..) What is so horrible about being God's sanctified puppet since his will for you is as perfect, holy and righteous and good as his character is? Does God intend harm for his chosen "puppets"?
Also, how will not all the saints who die and go to heaven not be "puppets" since they will no longer have the prerogative or the power to choose to do evil? Since those will be taken away from you, how will you ever be satisfied just "merely" dwelling in God's holy presence for all eternity and always doing his will perfectly?
That's your uniformed, ignorant understanding of the bible because you loathe the idea that you're a helpless, powerless, hopeless human being who God needs to rescue -- just like He rescued the ancient Hebrews from Pharaoh.
Horay buddy go to top of the tree,
Exactky my point, i was once a Muppet
and now I long to be a puppet 
from Revelation 3 verse 17-18 ~ You say, ‘I need nothing.’ But you do not realize that you are wretched, pitiful, poor, blind, and naked. I counsel you to buy from Me gold refined by fire so that you may become rich, white garments so that you may be clothed and your shameful nakedness not exposed, and salve to anoint your eyes so that you may see.
No danger of that happening. We know you are self-reliant, self-sustaining, self-sufficient, self-absorbed and last, but certainly not least, self-loving!
from Revelation 3 verse 17-18 ~ You say, ‘I need nothing.’ But you do not realize that you are wretched, pitiful, poor, blind, and naked. I counsel you to buy from Me gold refined by fire so that you may become rich, white garments so that you may be clothed and your shameful nakedness not exposed, and salve to anoint your eyes so that you may see.
Yeah...but FWers are uber-rich in their "freewill".