Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

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Making scripture once again all about MAN! Your theology is totally man-centered!

And if all the wicked were "immutably wicked" and God's grace is not effectual, then from whence comes the power for the immutably wicked to change their wicked ways? How does man acquire a power that even God doesn't possess, since He cannot change his nature?

God can be man centered.

Jesus Christ is God, being man centered.
 
That logic?

You bite your foot, and then slap your mouth for biting it.
More gobbledygook.
2 different concepts.
Man is accountable before God.
It is given to some to believe on Christ.

If it wasn't given unto some to believe, man would still be accountable.

Two concepts. Both true.
 
More gobbledygook.
2 different concepts.
Man is accountable before God.
It is given to some to believe on Christ.

If it wasn't given unto some to believe, man would still be accountable.

Two concepts. Both true.

The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness.
Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone
to come to repentance." 2 Peter 3:9​

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The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness.
Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone
to come to repentance." 2 Peter 3:9​

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Your meaning?
 
Nonsense. Then they would indeed have an "excuse".

so that they are without excuse.

So if God leaves the wicked to their own evil devices to do what is right in their own eyes and they die and go to hell, their excuse is what precisely: That God gave them totally free reign to freely choose to live according to their ungodly desires? It's God's fault that they're in hell? :rolleyes:
 
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The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness.
Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone
to come to repentance." 2 Peter 3:9​

.

To whom is God patient?
 
Making scripture once again all about MAN! Your theology is totally man-centered!

And if all the wicked were "immutably wicked" and God's grace is not effectual, then from whence comes the power for the immutably wicked to change their wicked ways? How does man acquire a power that even God doesn't possess, since He cannot change his nature?
@Rufus buddy, take a look out of your window and you will see plenty of men who CHOSE to be wicked.
Day in, day out, to the max.

Others, CHOOSE otherwise.
 
God's grace, enabling their soul to freely choose, removes all excuses for wanting to accept Satan's lie.

God's judgment will be perfect. There will be no rebuttals at the final judgment.

That's because every human being intuitively knows he's a sinner. Even the devil Judas knew!
 
Making scripture once again all about MAN! Your theology is totally man-centered!

And if all the wicked were "immutably wicked" and God's grace is not effectual, then from whence comes the power for the immutably wicked to change their wicked ways? How does man acquire a power that even God doesn't possess, since He cannot change his nature?
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Romans 7 v 14, John 8 v 34, Jeremiah 13 v 23, Romans 3 v 10 ~ We know that the law is spiritual; but
I am unspiritual, sold as a slave to sin. Jesus replied, “Truly, truly, I tell you, everyone who sins is a slave to sin.” Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots? Neither are you able to do good - you who are accustomed to doing evil. There is no one righteous, not even one.
 
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@Rufus buddy, take a look out of your window and you will see plenty of men who CHOSE to be wicked.
Day in, day out, to the max.
Others, CHOOSE otherwise.

That might just have something do with Genez's immutable nature of man, which man cannot change any more than the leopard can change his spots or the Ethiopian the color of his skin (Jer 13:23).
 
The Pelagian heretics abound in here who refuse to accept what God's revealed written Word has to say about man...

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All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God (Romans 3 v 23). There is no one who does not sin (from 1 Kings 8 v 46). No one living is righteous before You (from Psalm 143 v 2). If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us (1 John 1 v 8). Jesus replied, “Truly, truly, I tell you, everyone who sins is a slave to sin.” (John 8 v 34) And this is the verdict: The Light has come into the world, but men loved the darkness rather than the Light because their deeds were evil. Everyone who does evil hates the Light, and does not come into the Light for fear that his deeds will be exposed (John 3 v 19-20). The heart is incurably wicked (Jeremiah 17 v 9). What is evil? Sin is evil. Stop sugar coating it. All men sin, and commit evil in the sight of God. There are none good, no, not one! A bad tree cannot bring forth good fruit.
 
Yes, and God's justice in hell is perfectly loving, because He gave every sinner the opportunity to go to heaven.

Then I guess every sinner on the planet, w/o exception,. must be inherently humble in order to partake of God's grace, right?
 
One only has to go back 1 verse to see it is not talking about the opportunity of salvation but salvation itself is in view. Verse 28 speaks of the salvation of God. How is it of God? The Apostle goes on to explain: unto you it is given...to believe on Him...

HIH must have been reading out of her favored satanic version of the scriptures. Satan, too, loves to add or subtract from God's Word.
 
That's because every human being intuitively knows he's a sinner. Even the devil Judas knew!
So, that would mean that sinners can know what the Gospel is presenting to them without needing to be regenerated to know.
 
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You are like a strange man who stays in a restroom, and screams at anyone trying to use it.

You have a problem.
Not knowing you have one, is also a bigger problem.

Oh...so now you're a restroom expert? Better pull your head out of the toilet bowl before you drown. And if you make it in time, don't forget to flush your contaminants down the bowl.
 
HIH must have been reading out of her favored satanic version of the scriptures. Satan, too, loves to add or subtract from God's Word.
He also loves having dupes that do such things, who can not see themselves as the one's doing it.