Can We Really Exercise Free Will?
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So yes, you have attended church and have been influenced by their teachings, which were probaly based in Calvinism
Man’s heart is deceitful above all things and incurable (Jer 17 v 9), himself full of evil (Mark 7 v 21-23), loves darkness rather than light (John 3 v 19), cannot come to God on his own (John 6 v 44), does not seek for God (Rom 3 v 10-12), is helpless and ungodly (Rom 5 v 6), nothing good dwells in his flesh (Rom 7 v 18), is a slave of sin (Rom 6 v 20, John 8 v 34, 2 Tim 2 v 26), cannot receive spiritual things (1 Cor 2 v 14), is dead in his sins (Eph 2 v 1), is by nature a child of wrath (Eph 2 v 3), is at enmity with God (Eph 2 v 15), hostile to God and cannot submit to God's law (Rom 8 v 7), blinded by Satan (2 Cor 4 v 4), hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his evil deeds will be exposed (John 3 v 20). Therefore we rightfully conclude in accordance with the conditions described of the unregenerated man in Scripture that his inborn inclination is to reject God. Thanks be to God, Who appoints people to believe (Acts 13 v 48), chooses who is to be holy and blameless (Eph 1 v 4), predestines us to adoption (Eph 1 v 5), calls according to His purpose (2 Tim 1 v 9), chooses us for salvation (2 Thes 2 v 13), leads us to and grants us repentance (Rom 2 v 4, 2 Tim 2 v 24-25), grants the act of believing (Phil 1 v 29), works faith in the believer (John 6 v 28-29), causes us to be born again (1 Pet 1 v 3), born again not by our will, effort or desire but by His will and desire (John 1 v 12-13), grants that we come to Jesus (John 6 v 65), draws people to Himself (John 6 v 44), predestines us to salvation (Rom 8 v 29-30), and circumcises our heart (with the heart one believes [Rom 10 v 10]) as promised in Deut 30 v 6, all according to His purpose (Phil 2 v 13). The stony ground of man’s wicked heart is not good soil. A bad tree cannot bring forth good fruit. Jesus said so! (Matt 7 v 18 + 12 v 33; Luke 6 v 43). All this and more weighed against zero verses articulating the so-called “free will” of the natural man, which is a vain man-exalting philosophically based doctrine erroneously and egregiously elevated to Bible truth. Praise God and to His glory, what is impossible with man is possible with God.
Oh? What passage of Scripture do you think he read that we will see supports TULIP?
"Poisoning the well fallacy." It's commonly used by those who run out of valid arguments.
Even you reject what Scripture explicitly articulates. Who taught you to do that?
So Jesus is informing them that the work is God's belief in them. Yup that makes sense. NOT!!
I twisted the interpretation, lol.
It is so obviously not about what God produces (saving faith) but what God expects and God expects >>>>>>> trusting in Him just like Abraham, not seeking justification in works of the law.
#contextkillscalvinism
really ? ... no faith involved ?
Romans 3:24-26 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.
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See what I mean? You can read words but not process them logically into a whole.
You've managed to totally mess-up the verse, but I'll try again. It is saying that it is only by God's work that someone comes to
a true belief in Christ - true belief does not come from their intellect nor effort it is a gift given from God. Got it this time?
Well Jesus was using their own term "work" to respond to them.
I really think you have significantly lowered the IQ of Christ Jesus and His brilliant response to them.
All you see is saving faith is a gift, regeneration precedes faith, not correct soteriology and unbiblical.
Well, you think wrong. They words are clear. Jesus was explaining to them how true belief occurs and it is only by God
Yes, regeneration is first, and that too is from God. Faith comes with/after regeneration and regeneration is from God. It is all by
God, nothing by man.