Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

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Rufus said:
I did not write those words that were falsely attributed to me. For indeed, it is the Spirit of the Living God who gives understanding.
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As I said, the quote was messed up... and who ever it was, I cannot see for the blessed gift of the ignore feature.

And yes, I know you know it is the Holy Spirit Who gives understanding... .:)

Whoever said it was the human spirit giving understanding is obviously confused in their thinking.
 
cv5 said:
So then why are you so chatty with one of (if not the worst) offender?

And @Rufus .....in terms of bitter rancor he is in a league of his own.
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Here's a "bitter rancor" kind of question for you, Mr. Prevaricator. Tell me: to whose seed did God consign Adam in Gen 3:15?
 
BillyBob said:
Many of the comments concerning regeneration, [being made new], tend to sound as though it it has an instant [noticeable] effect on a person. However, I believe that this could happen on the day of your birth.
It seems to be God's method of setting aside those whom He wishes to save. It does not mean that you are saved immediately. It simply enables you to become saved.
A person who has been [made new] may continue on for many years as an unbeliever. However, God has set the time and method to finish the job, and it will take place on His schedule.
Those not renewed, will never come to faith. They are lost and without hope.

Just my opinion. . . . .
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Spiritual Birth?
 
cv5 said:
Nah, "we" don't profess some kind of sublime behavioral perfection.

We just do not go so far as to brandish devastating condemnations such as "blaspheme God". Like you just did. And @Magenta , who also uses that term and "God haters" all the time.
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Of course you guys do. But in your blindness you cannot see your own hypocrisy.
 
Confused in their thinking and so like a free willer to consign credit to the man when it belongs to God.
 
cv5 said:
A salvation that is not FREELY available to ALL......is no salvation at all.
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Explain your rationale. Why can't God choose to do with his clay pots as he sees fit? Does not God have the right to make from one lump of clay two lumps?
 
Rufus said:
Explain your rationale. Why can't God choose to do with his clay pots as he sees fit? Does not God have the right to make from one lump of clay two lumps?
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BTW @Rufus buddy, take note that I said "freely available". Also "freely given".

But salvation is NOT in and of itself "free". On the contrary it is far and away the most expensive item in the universe, and priceless. It cost God "dearly".
 
Rufus said:
Explain your rationale. Why can't God choose to do with his clay pots as he sees fit? Does not God have the right to make from one lump of clay two lumps?
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That erroneously framed Calvinist talking point already debunked dozens of times. As you well know.....:sneaky:
 
cv5 said:
BTW @Rufus buddy, take note that I said "freely available". Also "freely given".

But salvation is NOT in and of itself "free". On the contrary it is far and away the most expensive item in the universe, and priceless. It cost God "dearly".
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No, salvation is neither "freely given" or "freely available." Jesus did not lay down his life for the entire world. He laid down his life for his covenant people, for his sheep, for his friends, for Abraham's descendants with whom and for whom Jesus instituted the New Covenant at the Last Supper.

If salvation were "freely available", then God would have allowed Adam to remain in the Garden with Him and partake freely of the "tree of life".
 
cv5 said:
That erroneously framed Calvinist talking point already debunked dozens of times. As you well know.....:sneaky:
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Nope. The only stupid, idiotic excuse you FWers have ever given is that God provides salvation opportunities for "all" so that no one has any excuse -- as if every person's personal sins aren't reason enough for why everyone who comes into this world is a by nature a child of wrath, fully deserving God's wrath!

P.S. I'm still waiting for an answer to my 18,622.
 
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Rufus said:
Nope. The only stupid, idiotic excuse you FWers have ever given is that God provides salvation opportunities for "all" so that no one has any excuse -- as if every person's personal sins aren't reason enough for why everyone who comes into this world is a by nature a child of wrath, fully deserving God's wrath!

P.S. I'm still waiting for an answer to my 18,622.
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Ephesians 2 v 1-3 You were dead in your trespasses and sins, in which you used to walk when you conformed to the ways of this world and of the ruler of the power of the air, the spirit who is now at work in the sons of disobedience. All of us also lived among them at one time, fulfilling the cravings of our flesh and indulging its desires and thoughts. Like the rest, we were by nature children of wrath. :)
 
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Romans 5 verse 12 Ephesians 2 verse 3 Just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, so also death was passed on to all men, because all sinned. We were by nature children of wrath.
 
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From: John 8 verse 34; 2 Peter 2 verse 19a; Galatians 4 verse 8; Romans 7 verse 14; Ephesians 2 verse 3b; Romans 6 verse 6 ~ “Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin.” They are slaves of corruption. When you did not know God, you were enslaved to those that by nature are not gods. You were of the flesh, sold under sin. We were by nature children of wrath, like the rest of mankind. Our old self was crucified so that we would no longer be enslaved to sin.
 
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Ephesians 2 v 1-3, 1 Peter 4 v 3b ~ You were dead in your trespasses and sins, in which you used to walk when you conformed to the ways of this world and of the ruler of the power of the air, the spirit who is now at work in the sons of disobedience. All of us also lived among them at one time, fulfilling the cravings of our flesh and indulging its desires and thoughts. Like the rest, we were by nature children of wrath.... living in debauchery, lust, drunkenness, orgies, carousing, and detestable idolatry.
 
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From Romans 6 v 19-21 You used to offer your body in slavery to impurity and to escalating wickedness when you were slaves to sin. What fruit did you reap at that time from the things of which you are now ashamed? The outcome of those things is death.
 
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Rufus said:
Nope. The only stupid, idiotic excuse you FWers have ever given is that God provides salvation opportunities for "all" so that no one has any excuse -- as if every person's personal sins aren't reason enough for why everyone who comes into this world is a by nature a child of wrath, fully deserving God's wrath!

P.S. I'm still waiting for an answer to my 18,622.
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Sorry @Rufus buddy, but your flunking out of that course 3 or 4 times already is quite enough.

Too busy right now for remedial students that have no hope of matriculating.
 
Rufus said:
Explain your rationale. Why can't God choose to do with his clay pots as he sees fit? Does not God have the right to make from one lump of clay two lumps?
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He does as He sees fit, according to the reaction, or response, He received while drawing someone.
 
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